lil b actually is a jupiterian tho
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
champion some random rapper for being SO WEIRD and knowing about INDIE ROCK
i think 'so weird' + 'indie rock' are both red herrings here really. i guess the diy aesthetics thing is closer to whats interesting abt lil b but yeah it's not just a rapper discovering what indie bands did in the 80s is it? its' more how he has built a massive following of fans that are basically plugged into his stream of consciousness raps + performances that are mostly shit, often creepy + occasionally great.
― archer's goon (tpp), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
ok we'll drop the indie thing but how does your last line there describing what he does not translate in any way to "so weird"
― sipster cuppies (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
haha <3 sipster cuppies <3
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
ok yeah he is pretty weird xp
― archer's goon (tpp), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
can't believe i just read this thread. only thing i came away with was wondering whether po-mo stands for post modern but not caring enough to go on urbandictionary
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
finally hearing this new gucci tape. 'antisocial' is my shit
― po-mo da don (tpp), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
it stands for "poor homo"
― sipster cuppies (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
also 'shutterbug' is incredible
― po-mo da don (tpp), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
can't believe u dropped in just to say that a hoy hoy u douchebag
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm listening to pavement RIGHT NOW
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it feels so good to be back on the cutting edge of hip hop
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
these "jokes" aren't getting any less horribly formed.
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
btw m@t the nation of millions 33 1/3 shld be like catnip to u i think, check the 33 1/3 thread
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
ah yeah i should check this out, thx!
...sorry to ruin this awesome discussion :)
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
:P
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
he sampled band of horses once
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:07 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
I'm really wondering if it's Lil B that's familiar with indie acts like Band of Horses and Imogen Heap (maybe not indie but whatever) or it's just his producer who likes them, samples them, and is like, "Hey B, this is dope shit, rap over it!" Unless B produces his own shit, in which case, never mind...
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
i think b does his own beats pretty much exclusively -- can't imagine a producer would be able to keep up with him
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
That's a good point. And pretty cool.
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, I'm listening to Snoop and Kid Cudi's "That Tree"... WTF this is hilarious and great.
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
saw the video, smh
― sipster cuppies (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah it's retarded but it's fun. And the song is, too.
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
cudi is rapping like he thought his verse was gonna be autotuned later, but it's not...i never thought about how that could happen, but i guess if you're so used to it you start to tailor your lines to the autotune environment
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a pretty good song, i must say -- cudi is such a bad, droney singer -- wish someone else was on that
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
But that's how Cudi raps. He has this weird sing-song flow all the time... Has any of his actual verses ever been Auto-Tuned?
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
But that's how Cudi raps
and therein lies the problem
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh I don't disagree. I think it works sometimes, but it often doesn't. I kind of like his hooks, though.
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, Mannie Fresh's "Like a Boss" is DEFINITELY going on my summer mix. House pianos, baby!
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, great song
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
New Chuckie Hamilton... Cars sampling... and, not half bad! Maybe I'm just in a good mood.
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
thought that was okay
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
― rennavate, Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:24 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i guess not? i'm not an expert on Cudi...was just saying that I think he's like unconsciously picking up phrasing that is a result of auto-tune stuff and then NOT autotuning it, like maybe he just gets it from listening to kanye or wayne or drake or whoever....just a little weird structural thing, like i can HEAR those lines being autotuned
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
is the chick that punched charles hamilton ever going to release an album?
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
"hear somebody comin" is super dope
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah as someone who has never heard anything of note in a Pill song before i have to say that sounded good to me
― sipster cuppies (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
working with tha bizness is a good look
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i basically dislike Pill, no need to couch it in 'hes good but's the way i do w/ freddie gibbs or whoever. just the way he punches words is corny. BOOZER. ugh
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't be hospitable if deej is profitable
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link
is "hear somebody comin" charting or something? why are we talking about that?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link
j0rdan singled it out as a jam is all
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i think?
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link
it's gonna be on jukebox this week
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link
which is why i even listened to it today
something about him is just trying so hard. its like dude, no need to be manic all the time
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link
calling himself a caped crusader & shit ... what? so nerdy. about to call the zoo cuz monkeys are missing? redecorate their wardrobe and go get a facelift? wtf is this song even about
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
a full grown dog ima pull on yall <--- its just that hes like the least visceral lyricist ever & even his internal rhymes & intricacies sound stiff to me
i don't think it's about anything per se
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
the lines you quote have pretty obvious meanings
i just get the feeling (no shots) (per se) that ppl are latching onto, like, hey a steady stream of words -- he must be a good rapper. this reductive kind of view, the same basic thing that had ppl hating on too short for years or whatever. this is 'smart southern rap' even though hes mentioning the same stuff as insert-'ignorant'-southern-rapper-here just with less panache & more lines like "ho-checker you can call me scan-tron pimping / military mind gave her antwon fishing / handgun risen when its all about the digits"
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i know what those lines i quoted mean, i said they're extremely un-visceral -- they dont make me feel anything, all cerebrally indicating meaning instead of creating it -- i like this line hemingway had about how he knew he was onto something when he stopped describing things & started creating, Pill raps feel like describing to me
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link