Do I need to get hold of the Homicide: Life on the Streets and The Corner DVDs as a huge Wire fan? As much as I loved watching multiple times in 2009, I do feel like I'm kind of *over* it though, and ready to explore other things.
― Davek (davek_00), Monday, April 12, 2010 9:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
'corner' is kind of depressing/worthy... didn't like it
'homicide' -- early seasons are aight but imo its rep is overinflated. the ensemble is great, and it has some indelible characters, but most of the crimes are standard-ish tv show stuff. very little of it is about the drug wars etc.
― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
d simon's book is dope tho
yeah, I'm currently going through homicide (the show) and have to agree with this. just got through what I'm hoping is the last of a couple eps in a row of "killer of the week" type scenarios. I'm enjoying it but the wire is in a totally different league.
still, I imagine it was pretty unique for its time and the cast is great.
as an aside, man, it is so 90s. the music montages (candlebox! counting crows!), the shaky cam, the editing in general, gritty serial killer plots.
the book is v. much worth a read.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
A lot of hype about Homicide is that you have to place it in its context, when the show was on there weren't that many shows on the air that actually was doing these procedurals with ongoing character development. Like what did you have, Hill Street Blues and the various Star Trek series? It was great for the time but it doesn't hold up that well. Lotta good TV actors popped up in it, though.
The Corner is depressing, but what do you expect, it's actually based on real people and events. It's kind of like a beta version of The Wire that focuses only on one family, I'd say it's worth it.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
homicide worth it for the performances alone, it's pretty cheap these days too
― etrian odysseus (cozen), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah thank you for the recommendations folks. Was curious to ask because at my university a professor did this fantastic talk on The Wire, mostly focusing on the way each group of characters uses media and technology. She said she adored Homicide too, this was the issue. What can I say, I am impressionable. I think I'm going to give Battlestar a spin next though.
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I got the Corner from the library but ooooooh I hate it when writers transcript/write in slang.
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, April 12, 2010 7:55 PM
do u mean the way in which they transcribe slang or just all writing in slang in general
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
just in general I guess
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't see how it can be avoided
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, maybe I would like these books better if they were audiobooks voiced by actors from the wire
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link
the fakeness of it is usually distracting to me
― harbl, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link
sort of inherent fakeness though
damn totally disappointed to find out the mcnulty actor was british :(
― I Love Milf (k3vin k.), Friday, 16 April 2010 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link
why
― jabba hands, Friday, 16 April 2010 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link
don't tell him about the stringer actor
― it's all abt groups, like i was saying in the jerk thread a few days ago (sic), Friday, 16 April 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i was disappointed too iirc just cause the dude seemed like this archetypical american badass and to find out he was the creation of a brit makes him seem even more fictional and further removed from the reality you'd hope a real mcnulty-on-his-good-days style dude might inhabit
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 April 2010 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
aw i don't really see why that would make you like the character less, it's acting
mcnulty was always one of the cornier/more obviously written characters for me anyway so :-/
― jabba hands, Friday, 16 April 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, here, i knew i read this somewhere - from the new york times.."Wherever I go the real hard-core dudes come up to me and confide in me," said Mr. Elba, who over the years has been approached by dozens of drug dealers identifying with Stringer. "I almost feel guilty turning around and saying: 'Hello, mate. My name's Idris and I'm from London.'" Mr. Elba burst into an exaggerated version of his cockney accent. "I don't want to break the illusion."
― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:05 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark
lol
― jabba hands, Friday, 16 April 2010 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck, stringer too?
― I Love Milf (k3vin k.), Friday, 16 April 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
carcetti's Irish, right? Bunk is from Japan iirc.
― tylerw, Friday, 16 April 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"idris elba" ;__________;
― I Love Milf (k3vin k.), Friday, 16 April 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
what do you have against brits
― etrian odysseus (cozen), Friday, 16 April 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
rewatching it recently, mcnulty stood out as a brit ... but Stringer, even though I knew he was British, I didn't really think about it too much.
― tylerw, Friday, 16 April 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah once you know mcnulty is welsh(right?) it's impossible to ignore, his accent slips. idris less so
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
think he's from sheffield... but he went to eton!
like the dude in band of brothers
― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
david schwimmer
and to find out he was the creation of a brit
pretty sure an american writer created mcnutty
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
brits > americans so it's not even a big deal
― etrian odysseus (cozen), Friday, 16 April 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Some of these characters are played by actors! Totally ruinz the show for me. (FYI Lester Freamon is almost a Brit.)
― Daleks in NYC (Leee), Friday, 16 April 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
newsflash Omar is not really gay
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 April 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Marlo is white.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 16 April 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Herc is a chick
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Friday, 16 April 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Daniels is a praying mantis
― joygoat, Friday, 16 April 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
SAWYER IS A MOTHERFUCKING HORSE
― max, Friday, 16 April 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
lmao @ "brits > americans"
― I Love Milf (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 April 2010 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
how did you find out mcnulty was british? listening to his accent in season 1, episode 1?
― caek, Saturday, 17 April 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link
no, i was watching the special features of the season 4 dvd. i lent season 1 to a friend, i'll have to see if i can pick up on it when i rewatch (or in season 5, which i haven't seen)
― mr. que surprise (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
you're saying it slips in the pilot?
once you know he's a brit it becomes pretty obvious. not so with idris elba -- well, i say that, but im a brit, so there are all sorts of non-americans i buy as americans.
mind you i think hugh laurie's american accent is terrible.
― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Saturday, 17 April 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah mcnulty is really obvious but stringer sounds almost like a real black american. not one from baltimore though.
― harbl, Saturday, 17 April 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah now that i think of it mcnutty's gruffy vioce kinda reminds me of house's, which is kinda obvious. string was definitely more surprising
― mr. que surprise (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
thought joseph fiennes was so effing bad in flashforward i didn't watch past episode one
― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Saturday, 17 April 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
oh House is much better at his accent than McNulty
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Saturday, 17 April 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
they all have so much trouble with "R"s even stringer
― max, Saturday, 17 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Something I've often wondered - when you get plummy English characters in US shows, normally butlers and suchlike - are they Americans doing the worst English accents of all time, or are they English journeymen actors hamming it up? And do they sound authentic to US ears? (not the guy from Fresh Prince, he's good)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 17 April 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I think usually the latter, with unusual exceptions (Wesley and Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, who were convincing). Feels like we've been getting more British and Australian actors posing as Americans in lead roles every year, so I don't think there's a shortage of foreign actors here.
House's accent is terrible though, really.
― Nhex, Saturday, 17 April 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
spike?!
― etrian odysseus (cozen), Saturday, 17 April 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
this is the worst, but it's not that much of an outlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg_3ZSeHL4g
― caek, Saturday, 17 April 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
according to wiki, lester freamon is currently in (unbelievably shit uk hospital soap) 'holby city'!?!
― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Saturday, 17 April 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
yes, i've seen it with my own eyes.
― caek, Saturday, 17 April 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link