rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

feelin this -- way better than "magnificent" which was pretty insipid

http://www.thefader.com/2010/04/12/rick-ross-f-ne-yo-super-high-mp3/

classic screencap of course

i'm ready to re-embrace the bawse

i remain, as ever, irrationally angry about him having a career. like, i'm trying to think of some kind of outrageous gesture of protest to make if he gets a fourth #1 album.

he's genuinely become a good if not competent rapper

i thought all the songs on his last album were too long & had too many r&b singers on the hook

but the mafia musics are both incredible for instance

wtf what is lil b's deal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-IYSl4I-4I

that's a very loaded question

no pun intended

his deal is like when wayne started getting super druggy & stream of conscious & no brain filter, but lil b... barely tries to rap? it's almost more spoken word than anything, with space-age synth beats usually. like, to dig lil b you almost have to have a thing for psychosis (or at least psychology) and rap, the way that people justified the importance or quality of the game's post- g unit albums, or how interest in wayne's persona amplified when it became clear that he was some sort of constantly stoned savant. i dig a lot of lil b right now -- obviously not everything is great but he's incredibly singular and i find him totally fascinating, both because his music really screws with the notion of "rap", both sonically and lyrically and thematically (i.e. constantly comparing himself favorably to women and gays ["i'm a pretty bitch" etc], his god obsession etc)

my thing with lil b is that to really dig his songs, i think the production needs to be interesting -- shit like "i'm god" and "insane" work as counterpoints to his rapping style. when he's on normal sounding beats he can drag.

What Lil B would you recommend? These recent yt have been crazy.

reminds me kinda of Scarface's The Diary, although obv. 15 years removed and totes different.

actually, it's just one more example that indie rock values/aesthetics are dominating hip hop right now IMO

not gonna inundate w/ youtubes but

(the first video isn't the whole song -- there seems to be a 2 min video and a 7 min video, but the song is 5 mins long)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwCzQjZAvg

(this is prob my fav b song)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOkbQ6Se-kk&feature=related

sittin in my scraper
lookin like a bitch
ho i don't give a fuck
i'm pretty and i'm rich

also "hoes suck my dick cuz i look like my father" -- dude is actually kind of fucked up

er, HER father

also lil b made a lot more sense to me & became a lot more compelling when i stopped listening to new mp3s and only watched his videos -- visual element is v important imo

That Rawse is actually pretty awesome.

b has an ambient album in the tank too apparently -- it's called "rain in england" -- he posted a song from it today on his youtube channel & it's pretty good

the videos are an interesting part of what he does definitely, on that note, i think you'd be doing a disservice to him if you didn't check out the longer vid w/ the full song and the 'secrete' ending of him rapping over the x-men cartoon theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG6zsHUCum4

sample is imogen heap, "just for now". only place left is enya imo

haha -- in the joint he posted today -- "dangerous minds" -- he calls himself the "yanni of the rap game"

the imogen heap sample is amazing -- it's such a ghostly song

B is technically the first rapper in the stupid fruity swag thread

bangkadang

also i think "somebody tell the ocean i'm the best now/ somebody tell the trees i'm here now" is a line & concept i love so much -- transcending the elements is next-level swagger rap

is that what elliott smith sounds like?? that shit is horrrrible

Holy shit this Lil B song is FLAMES. That sample is nuts.

Also, that Sharks hat he's wearing in the video is ace.

i posted lil b in the style icons thread

lol @ surfboards -- i thought the same thing

haha I hadn't noticed that yanni line. transcendence is definitely something he uses self-consciously, all those vids of him looking at himself on his laptop like he's one of his branded girls, such a pretty bitch, like he's too great to get hung-up on anything. its a little glimpse of a world of enlightened swagger

actually, it's just one more example that indie rock values/aesthetics are dominating hip hop right now IMO

― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, April 12, 2010

not sure what that means, if it means d.i.y. & incorporating whatev u are hearing then that's most of hip hop over its lifetime, i guess fucking up emergent tech for decades led to slickness & now comes democratization of free & cracked software with a kid like lil b.

there's also this rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread in the "proper rap" category but don't sleep on the spoken word stream of consciousness shit over weird production which uses a rap context (like braggadocio or battle rap) to go interstellar. also like j0rdan says the "i'm god" youtube is basically one verse of three, third is best with "i'm not stressed out / i'm god, i'm the best out".

yeah it's weird how sometimes he'll refer to a third party "based god" -- can't tell if he's referring to himself in the third person or another higher being

the video of him loading the gun and rapping with it to his head & his finger on the trigger legit freaked me out -- i could not have filmed that as i would never want to be in the presence of a loaded gun in the hand of lil b

hoes suck my dick cuz i look like jesus

and i think one could argue that he has questionable "talent" -- but it's crazy to me that he's so in control of a concept (and i guess you could argue "lifestyle") that's so vague and undefined and that can only truly make sense in his own head, if even that. the idea of being "based" makes more and more sense even tho b sometimes makes less and less sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQoPg2wjWcw

Yeah, I've been listening to B for a while now, and I STILL don't quite understand what "being based" means...

being ethereally psychopathic

not sure what that means, if it means d.i.y. & incorporating whatev u are hearing then that's most of hip hop over its lifetime, i guess fucking up emergent tech for decades led to slickness & now comes democratization of free & cracked software with a kid like lil b.

nah i mean like nu-indie sorta self-aggrandizing self-pity....i just feel like hip hop is really straining to be more like indie rock now, in terms of fashion and aesthetics and everything

pretty much every xxl rapper is an indie rock swagger jacker

yeah it's just weird to see like a new rapper fuck around with a gun listening to elliot smith for like 2 minutes at the beginning of his video!

it's a new era i guess

i really don't get how yall figure these levels of qualitative distinction within the rick ross oeuvre like ahh 'magnificent' was terrible and this other thing is better - to me they all just basically hit the same button of lushly-produced barry white opulence (raps staying the same) every time and then quickly fade from memory since there's no real interesting grain there beyond that.

agree with matt re lil b.. i mean i still don't understand how the vans kids turned into nu-anticon all of a sudden but it is what it is

"super high" beat is way better & john legend is kind of matthew santos-level annoying on that hook

oh u mean like rappers being emo, well that's only a small part of lil b but i'm all for it when they don't come off as manipulative careerists

"barry white production opulance" that doesn't stick around OTM re ross

yeah see i can understand the hook complaint i guess but 'magnificent' is a lovely beat to me and just as nice as any other - if it had been az or j stalin or whatever on it yall'd be buggin

I liked "Magnificent," don't get me wrong, I just didn't think it was that great or anything. This is pretty slick, though (this being "Super High").

i liked 'deeper than rap' way less than 'trilla', as far as such thing could go -- i dig the sound that ross has minted, but the album was about 3-4 songs too long, didn't have any bangers along the lines of "the boss" or "here i am" or "luxury tax"

the 1st clouddead album was mellow enough & I wouldn't be surprised if lil b was a fan but the mentality is more direct &very different. lil b's talent is as a performer, so confident that anything he does can be art; publish a book of text messages. indie is the wrong reference for rapping w/ a loaded gun to yr head.

cmon guys surely it doesnt fall to me to drop a sage francis deejbomb round here

that's why i said anticon rather than strictly clouddead though, it might not be that album per se but the "talent is as a performer, so confident that anything he does can be art; publish a book of text messages, loaded guns" blurb all still strikes me as very reminiscent of what one of those guys would do or have have done solo?

no, lil b's very direct, 1st person posturing&philosophising through his youtube channel doesn't remind me very much of dose-one-style ringmaster performance or whatever else you're thinking of (but I wld have thought that's the closest). The almost self-help vibe of lil b is closer to a new age, spa-music, lifestyle mentality, which is why he raps about yanni and not odd nosdam.

while we're talkin these newish type guys, never got a co-sign on this tape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80tmCjXU4xo

b i still luv u <3

i agree w/ rtc about rick ross, and lil b

altho lil b def has more of a pop ear occasionally so maybe its kinda rong