Golf - classic or dud

pretty sure it was trials and tribulations but it seems a real pity to ruin the fun

that'll do it

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

well congrats to phil--made some unbelievable shots when it mattered most

yeah he deserves this

i can hear sportswriters around the nation typing out how family man phil mickelson prevailed over the heathen tiger woods

^^^lol, yeah this

he sorta totally deserved it but imo anthony kim deserved it just as much

i can hear sportswriters around the nation typing out how family man phil mickelson prevailed over the heathen tiger woods

― johnny crunch, Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

SI_JonHeyman easy choice: rather see great guy whose wife, mother have cancer win than guy who dates porn stars and club "hostesses''
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btw this matteo dude!

fuckin 16!!!

he played really nice

his english isn't bad either

Mickelson was great, but I thought Tiger was remarkable too. Who else can hit it all over the place on Sunday, miss putts he should make, and still manage a 69? And the interview right after was excellent: no, I'm not satisfied, I entered to win. Not trying to slight the winner here.

how long till your face evens out when u have a tan like that

manassero vs kim rivalry to echo thru space and time

xxxp yeah he def said something sensible and non-awkward which is a++++ in that room with those dudes.

Tiger was remarkable too. Who else can hit it all over the place on Sunday, miss putts he should make, and still manage a 69?

the joke that writes itself

That crossed my mind..."He's managed quite a few 69s the past year."

preferred lies: the tiger woods story

no, I'm not satisfied, I entered to win

Um, I'm sensing some real Tiger hate here. Let me guess--he used to be your very definition of truth and morality and virtue, and now you feel terribly let down.

lol jon heyman

wtf are you talking about? he's a dickhead and always has been.

Not sure how to respond to that, other than to say "How so?"

well i mean for whatever individual reasons we may all have for mocking the most easily mockable sports figure in recent history, my personal opinion is that, excellence at golf aside, he's an amoral mercenary off the course and often a petulant whiner on it.

Golf coverage is so gross. Don't the toadie commentators ever feel bad for themselves?

ashamed of themselves, I mean

do you get peter alliss?

I'll give you the mercenary, placing him with hundreds of other professional athletes who take obscene amounts of money because someone's willing to give it to him. He gets even more of it by virtue of being better than just about every other professional athlete.

Amoral? Jack Nicholson can spend his life fucking anything that moves, and he's just lovable, naughty Jack. Unless you're talking about Nike's business practices, in which "amoral" is a mighty large leap for me.

And I just don't recall Woods ever being a whiner on the golf course. A temper, yes--not the same thing. I don't remember him ever making excuses when he doesn't play well.

i remember him slumping dramatically after every missed putt like it's the end of the goddamn world.

i mean you're right, tiger's kind of just a blown out version of shit that lots of athletes do. so i'm not sure why you're confused that we would make easy jokes at his expense?

he went through a period of whining about cameras and crowds

I just think he's competitive above and beyond where you'll find even most professional athletes. And I think you'd find parallel behaviours in Jordan, Federer, Gretzky, or anyone else who's ever played at his level. Jokes are fine, jokes are good; I've made more than a few Tiger jokes myself the past while. I've just been really appalled at the holier-than-thou stuff that sometimes accompanies them.

i remember him slumping dramatically after every missed putt like it's the end of the goddamn world.

yeah, this. man up.

if peter alliss is the main bbc guy i think he is remarkable. i would listen to anything he commentated.

point me to any holier-than-thou stuff in this thread?

by the way i guess it shows how long it's been since i've watched golf on tv but i never realized how fucking gargantuan woods' upper body has become.

yeah he went nuts on weights at some point though i have no idea when

I joined the thread late--after a few weeks of nothing but, I'm probably sensing it where none exists. Point taken.

yeah man that's cool i'm just sayin it's bizarre to come into an ilx sports thread and act like the ppl there are naive plebes or something. we all good now.

tiger shanked a tee shot at one point today and his little outburst at himself was the most petulant, flouncy little thing i've ever heard from a professional athlete. it sounded like it came from a will ferrell movie or something.

I still can't support "amoral." He's spent his life excelling at a sport. He makes a pile of money. He's got a temper on the golf course. He's been his a serial adulterer for the past few years. It doesn't add up to amoral for me.

xp yes that was SUPER flouncy

And for what it's worth, I came into the thread saying that Mikelson played great, and Tiger played great too. That's all.

tiger is a total robotic dork who is and has been hard to root for in real life, but he is and has been an incredible golfer who's really fun to watch and root for. imo

Great to watch, not sure about rooting for.

Mickelson was fantastic and way more consistent.

Britishers in being 2nd: Andy Murray, Westwood...England to lose the WC final?

I really hope they don't renew Peter Alliss' contract.

english wish for a loss in the final. 2nd in the group, maybe.

when my therapist okays it maybe I can talk about my time spent caddying at a private club

I really hope they don't renew Peter Alliss' contract.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, April 12, 2010 12:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf, why?

is his racism to elegant evocation ratio dipping again?

i've only heard him twice but he's already right up there with Vin Scully in my estimation, and maybe better. they're actually quite similar - gentle-voiced old dudes who prefer stories about the players' upbringing than stats and who seem to have a kind of direct line of sympathy hooking them directly into the action. where alliss may have the edge is that he does have a wicked sense of humor that you can tell he's always barely suppressing. one last piece of approbation: not many people realize how difficult it is to do that vocal style - barely above a whisper but with energy and exuberance and urgency. it's incredibly difficult and requires serious vocal/diaphragm control. (aside from golf commentary the other great field for people who can carry off this technique is nature documentaries.)