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So Pitchfork, god knows why, decided to review the single the other day -- it's only been out for, what, 8 months now? So bummed; for a second I thought for sure we were gonna get an early critical reassessment, but instead we get a 1.5 star rating and some sort of half-coherent rant about misogyny. Well-played, clerks.

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

This is a good meme, if a wee bit unoriginal.

6.5/10

― Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Panic! You! Black! Emperor!

― mark 0 (mark 0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Nobody remembers Godspeed You! Black Emperor anymore, young padawan.

2/10

― Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

You spelled Paganini wrong.

― mark 0 (mark 0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh hey, sup Dave. Why is the harmless and transient pseudo-misogyny of adolescent incompetence so much worse than the deep-seated attitudes that permeate hip-hop? Also, this is a fun song; why do you hate fun?

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Freak*on*ica by Girls Against Boys the secretly most influential rock album of the late 90s?

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Bernard: I would respond to yr question by asking why is Panic's mysogyny (or the misogyny in RAWK in general) (see my Hinder write-up on Friday woo) any less "harmless and transient" than hip-hop's. Also, run-on horseshit about poise and rationality doesn't do a damn thing for me. Also, fuck top hats.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, fuck top hats.

Hrm. Maybe we should just agree to disagree.

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

But I do think that "emo" misogyny tends to be of the "argh I don't understand girls WHY ARE THEY SO CONFUSING" variety (which begins to fade with the development of social skills), rather than the "HEY DERE BITCHES" sort found in rock and rap.

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

yes it's fucking pathetic. "hey dere bitches" is kinda cunty, but being a cunt >>>> being pathetic loser.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

well yeah, I'd rather be a cunt than a loser, but sometimes you want to listen to losers! and at least these guys seem to tend towards the "gets genuinely excited during games of Super Smash Brothers, to the point of physical violence" rather than the "takes pictures of self looking sad in the mirror" end of the loser spectrum.

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

What makes "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" more misogynist than every other song where a woman cheats on a man? (Surely you'd agree that someone can write a song about this without it being misogynist?) Is it just the word "whore" or that the groom is willing to judge her on the basis of an overheard rumour (this is fleshed out way more in the video)? Top hats and Clockwork Orange-ish costumes = classic BTW.

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

All extra-musical factors. What were you reviewing exactly?

― Turangalila (Salvador), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh hey David, didn't notice you were the author.

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

(Mind you, I can see the sexism in the "But It's Better If You Do" video.)

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

(This is an interesting discussion, though. I'm simply stating that --- independent of your value judgment of the music per se --- you didn't review the music as such. Someone who hasn't heard the song would have no idea what it sounds like. "Oh, y'know, it sounds misogynistic and they wear top hats.")

― Turangalila (Salvador), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

slash and marc bolan looked awesome in top hats! proven fact!

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Duke Ellington as well!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c9/180px-Duke_Ellington_hat.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

tru dat! just look at him!

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, I got the top hat thing wrong.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

As for Turangalila's complaints:

1) I don't mention top hats in my write up (which you would've known if you read my write up) (and clicked on the SCOOP BACK American Apparrel ad right above it)
2) The guitars sound like gossamyr turds plummeting through a fetid atmosphere of compressed drums and subsumed bass plucks.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't say you mentioned top hats. I read your review, which read more like a sociopolitical commentary than a music review. Now, 2) would have been better.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

And the misogyny line, BTW, in case you don't want to give the editorial staff more coke money, is this: "The only difference between misogyny in run-of-the-mill rock songs, misogyny in hip-hop, and misogyny in run-of-the-mill emo songs is how far the singer's balls have dropped."

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Could someone please submit 2) as a pitch to the New Times for me, plz?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, my initial reason for posting about this was what Turangalila pointed out, that the social commentary is not in addition to, but at the expense of actually mentioning the music. The fact that I find that social commentary kind of weird and questionable is just the sweet sweet icing on my cake of bitching.

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

(I'm getting real sicka that SCOOP BACK ad)
(xxxxxpost)

― CDDB (Dan Deluca), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My review of David Raposa's writing skills:
David Raposa is not wearing shoes.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, because I'm writing about what I wear!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

WHO ELSE WANTS A PIECE OF BITCHCAKE

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I HAVE ROOM FOR ANOTHER SLICE THANKS

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Goddamn it, I totally want some cake now.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://syrinx.meccahosting.com/~a0002ebd/Images/webpage%20pictures/webpage%20pictures-Thumbnails/7.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

POIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
RATIONALITAAAA-AAAAY

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Every rose has its thorn
Just like every night has its dawn
Just like every cowboy sings a sad, sad song
Every rose has its thorn

(Poison rationality)

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I always thought it was "poison rationality" or "poisoned rationality" but I will admit that "poise and rationality" makes more sense and I haven't had a chance to relisten since reading the review.

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

guitar player is hot. i dont understand their music.

i don't understand it either.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i understand that it's CRAP amirite

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

glammo

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

gleamo

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

crapola

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

voila

one month passes...

PANIC! AT THE DISCO'S BRENDON URIE: "EMO IS BULLSH*T!"
Posted by Scott Heisel on 18-Oct-06 @ 04:37 PM
Upstart Las Vegas dance-pop band Panic! At The Disco have learned from their citymates the Killers just how to properly get press: Say outrageous things.
In an interview with NME earlier this week, Panic! frontman Brendon Urie was asked what he thought about the "emo" tag that had been associated with his band, and he had no problem telling everyone just how he felt.
"It's ignorant!" Urie says. "The stereotype is guys that are weak and have failing relationships write about how sad they are. If you listen to our songs, not one of them has that tone.
"Emo is bullshit!" he adds. "If people want to take it for the literal sense of the word, yes we're an emotional band, we put a lot of thought into what we do. People always try to stereotype us, but we don't fit the emo stereotype."

The band are currently writing their sophomore album and preparing for their upcoming arena tour with Bloc Party.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

V. nice that Bloc Party could play arenas. But not with these clods.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i finally heard one of these songs on my xm radio yesterday (thank you text reader) and the lyrics were so bad. how many awkward and unnecessary syllables can urie cram in? it was like a game show.

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

and the production was crap so i don't remember the music

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

wossername was REALLY patronising and sarky to them on Popworld...but they kinda deserve it.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh details please? i hope more people will start bullying them

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

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