Web frameworks

won't thick clients just tend towards becoming Word (say) but where all documents are saved on an external server?

and what about the Canvas additions to html? (which treat the browser window as a drawable object, for svg or whatever). which is tending towards X11 or something (but an X11 that is operating system neutral, albeit probably browser specific)

(oh, and btw, php has an include_once(). which may or may not work on windows.)

Yeah, I think that's about the size of it... Though the server would also deliver the executable (word) code, to control updates.

The canvas stuff isn't quite a set of widgets, though... Unless you want to write your own, drawing them with svg.

Didn't know about the include_once() thing. Sorry, I still think it's all a bit shit, PHP.

In addition, the HTML5/Javascript thing has an issue in that you might not want to give your source code away, which you pretty much have to is it's just text included in a web page.

http://tnx.nl/php.jpg