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i love notes

thomp, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i had this old penguin classics ed of moby-dick where harold beaver (i think) had pretty much equalled the word count of moby-dick, it was fantastic

thomp, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

radio 4 - "the rise of the footnote"

http://speechification.com/2008/04/02/the-rise-of-the-footnote/

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

Love this piece on the note-taking method used by this German scholar:

https://medium.com/voces-en-espa%C3%B1ol/zettelkasten-c%C3%B3mo-un-erudito-alem%C3%A1n-fue-tan-incre%C3%ADblemente-productivo-b16643e170cc

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

I use ConnectedText in a similar manner to take notes which are then stored in HTML (though there are options for a variety of formats) - it has proved well worth the $40 lifetime license fee for various projects. I would definitely recommend trying the free trial!

https://www.connectedtext.com

knowing for certain the first touch of the light will finish you (fionnland), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

Thanks for that link xyz (and fionnland). I'd never heard of Zettelkasten before, but I definitely have a need for such a system. I'm very bad w/ markdown, so I might test drive ConnectedText.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link

zettelkasten is really useful if *fucking* time consuming (ie taking up a load of time to write up my braudel notes). it’s all about the metadata and standardising your data structures really. there are good tools out there like roam which are particularly well suited to zettelkasten.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:14 (three years ago) link

I think I've hopped from tool to tool the last fifteen odd years, never fully landing on something that really does what I want, or feels like it lolunderstands my personal intuition. I guess I really have to dive into markdown first before using something like Roam productively. It just doesn't come naturally to me, which is annoying.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link

Roam might be similar to Zettelkasten organisational principles, but surely the whole "rent by the month/year" principle is entirely counter to "a lifetime of thinking"? (Only being able to rent not buy software is one of my huge bugbears and is genuinely making me pissed off just thinking about it, sorry.)

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

yes, definitely agree, i would certainly only put notes somewhere they can be exported as plain .txt or markdown files. the endless search for a satisfactory notes taking tool does continue, though i have been using the follow up to nvalt, which supposedly has these features in but which is being developed *incredibly* slowly. also i work across windows 10 (work) and my mac (personal), which only adds to the complication.

Fizzles, Sunday, 13 December 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link

That's a great article xyz. I wish I'd started something like that all those years ago, even if I suspect it'd be a rambling, half-arsed mess.

My notetaking is a shambles and it pains me how much I've lost, have trapped in books/on bits of paper, buried in Evernote. I *think* I'm OK with a certain amount of entropy, to be honest, as I'm not even really sure what all the notetaking is even for. I used to have pretensions of being a writer but really, who am I kidding? And the project of simply becoming a better human with a semi-coherent philosophy is loose enough for it not to really matter, I suppose. Eh. Maybe I'll just go back to the sticks and tortoise shell.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 13 December 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link


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