http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNzilDmPpCg
Hope I did that right...
― ellaguru, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Isnt that just funk drumming? this reminds me of the stella episode where they argue about listening to FUNK rock or funk ROCK
― filthy dylan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i mean, the meters and all that southern funk is definitely the roots of this -- and completely great -- but i'm thinking more of the ways it was adopted by rock bands and really formed a foundation of a lot of '70s rock (and '80s, to a lesser extent). it's so obvious when you turn on a classic rock station, how much boogie there is in those rhythms.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
and then by the '90s it mostly becomes the province of the jam band universe (although for the most part not to great effect).
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
this reminds me of the stella episode where they argue about listening to FUNK rock or funk ROCK
haha, i just saw this for the first time
― Jordan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
(also in the '90s obviously the rap-rock universe, not my favorite but clearly a derivative)
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Tommy Roe - Dizzy
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v7naDUGne9A
Black Oak Arkansas - Hot and Nasty
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SGAPhLK8qdk&feature=related
Guns N Roses - Mr. Brownstone
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c9O82ydYL_c
Rick Derringer - Rock and Roll Hootchie Koo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oJd-ROdcW90
John Cougar Mellencamp - Rain On The Scarecrow
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d9Iy2Jw4DVk&feature=related
Deep Purple - Hush
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L58M88CweFg
Spencer Davis Group - I'm a Man
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NnywnNFdAv0
Thin Lizzy - Johnny the Fox
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pzY8nE6Y5jA
Billy Squier - The Big Beat
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TcQYgrm6Vv0
Aerosmith - Lord of the Thighs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yOIAl1vS-WA
Steve Miller Band - Take the Money and Run
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fFGZufk4HFs
Bob Seger and the Last Heard - Heavy Music
http://youtube.com/watch?v=u0jPgkipDd8
Anyway, I don't want to get into a "white funk" vs. "funk" argument; these songs are just funky, period. I don't know that early hip-hip DJs made a distinction when they samped some of them, either.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link
excellent. yeah i mean no second-class status by funk-rock vs. funk, they're both funky. but they're also distinct -- played mostly on different radio stations, to mostly different audiences.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link
glad to see aronoff there. i was looking for "justice and independence '85" but couldn't find a version of it online. "scarecrow" is hot too.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
(Or okay, "funk rock"! Nobody said "white"; sorry. And yes, they do all rock. My mistake. So do these.)
AC/DC - Baby Please Don't Go
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1VlRUIHwygc&feature=related
Humble Pie - 30 Days In the Hole
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nRwn9ns4UPU&feature=related
Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels - Jenny Take a Ride
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rfrGV4DhSng
J. Geils Band - Flamethrower
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ehCnhSK4aU8
Electrifying Mojo didn't single out "Flamethrower" as "white funk" either, I don't think. And neither did this guy:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnj4YcjqlpU
Queen - Dragon Attack
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FngOL0njL2A
John Parr - Naughty Naughty
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gr8g1kdx_Bk
Foreigner - Urgent
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TzXRn-r-ky8
Ray Parker Jr - The Other Woman
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RA-4F6l-jr4
Kool and the Gang - Misled
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NeiLBET8Cdk
Shalamar - Dead Giveaway
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J6cMA79Ev24
Phil Collins & Philip Bailey - Easy Lover
http://youtube.com/watch?v=npoGEM1BbrY
― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac - Oh Well
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KE4HGlmtOcg
Couldn't find the Rockets version, which rocks even harder and funkier; oh well. (There is a version by forgotten Detroit AOR hacks the Look playing tribute to the Rockets in '03 though -- they're pretty good!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g71-4F3X8Ik
― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Nazareth - Hair of the Dog
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jEG0-3xlAkg
― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
skynyrd was funky.
and the allmans.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link
RATM and the Gang of Four wish they were this funky:
REO Speedwagon - Golden Country
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cjqjZsw66DE
Grand Funk - People Let's Stop The War
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cqEztTsAlMg
― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Charlie Daniels Band - Legend of Wooley Swamp
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ES3P02NXX9E
Dr. John - Right Place Wrong Time
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ct4sVVqeoUE
Tina Turner - Life In the Fast Lane
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cnkVBnHMwpo
― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
haven't listened to "golden country" in years. great song.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link
fool in the rain
(i like this thread)
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
What bands are FUNKY, but they are seldom described that way?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
and of course levon. hugely influential i think.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
glad to see aronoff there. Maybe this thread will finally get some action: TS Kenny Aaronson vs. Kenny Aronoff
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
lil feat
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Jerry Reed - Amos Moses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GyLr7Cz2g
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Black Sabbath - Supernaut
http://youtube.com/watch?v=44hNwWCKgpI
ZZ Top - I Thank You
http://youtube.com/watch?v=02SJxuoCi5k
Montgomery Gentry - Just Got Paid
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0FL_2EjodWY
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Babe Ruth - The Mexican
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RMzhaCCG1So
Babe Ruth - Wells Fargo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pkrQigba_Q0&feature=related
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Mothers Finest
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FMlA-IdLD-I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDsS_WQvjnY
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link
And yeah I know, I'm getting away from drumming per se' in some of these, but what the hell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96HqPpjI3UY
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.truemetal.org/metalwallpaper/images/sabbathbloodysabbath.jpg
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 6 January 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Molly Hatchet
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sFs8G0yOtfc
Rose Tattoo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oRVvUKKLcoM
Soul Survivors
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H32QJ5Nj8RA&feature=related
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Sabbath's 'Supernaut' is fucking fantastically funky isn't it...although as much down to the bass as the drums.
― Mister Craig, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Bachman Turner Overdrive
http://youtube.com/watch?v=edUrrWoyJlc
Herman Brood (= who Greg Dulli wishes he was maybe)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XdCFq0UA0QY
The Police, "Voices Inside My Head"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f9yXRITQkcY
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link
And yeah I know, I'm getting away from drumming per se' in some of these
yeah grooves are way more than drums, i'm just drum-oriented. and in a lot of these even if the beats aren't flashy, they have funk even in just the way they roll into the 2 and 4.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:03 (sixteen years ago) link
or even just those hi-hat 16ths in "supernaut."
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link
happy mondays were mentioned on that other thread, deservedly. bad-news funk.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:13 (sixteen years ago) link
the doobies
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link
more on the fusion end of things, but traffic had lots of good drumming.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link
a few others
Boz Scaggs Lowdown
Little Feat Rock n Roll Doctor
Van Morrison Domino
The Pretenders Louie Louie
― that's not my post, Sunday, 6 January 2008 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link
and loverboy! i guess turn me loose is more disco than funk, but in the ballpark.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link
and the original joe jackson band was hot, david houghton and graham maby. did david houghton do anything else? i can't find any sign of him post-jackson.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Sir Douglas Quintet Nuevo Laredo
Eric Burdon and War Spill the Wine
― that's not my post, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:07 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^^hell yeah.
train in vain
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link
those mother's finest clips are great. i just went and bought 2 albums.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:21 (sixteen years ago) link
ditto babe ruth, but i can only buy so many albums a night.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link
stan lynch is an understated guy
breakdown here comes my girl you got lucky
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:45 (sixteen years ago) link
oops messed up the here comes my girl link
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:47 (sixteen years ago) link
and the original joe jackson band was hot OTM
more from the mid 70s -- got the makings of a great K-Tel record
Climax Blues Band Couldn't Get It Right
Head East Never Been Any Reason
Golden Earing Radar Love
― that's not my post, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, head east especially.
meanwhile i can't decide how the neu/motorik thing fits in. it's sort of funky and anti-funky at the same time. the flatness works against funkiness, but it has an elliptical thing going on -- the measures are sort of elongated and loping. not actually funky i guess, but i like that drumming too. probably deserves its own thread.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 05:58 (sixteen years ago) link
my high school marching band played 25 or 6 to 4. i guess lots of marching bands do.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 06:04 (sixteen years ago) link
P.Funk, "Red Hot Mama" 1977 (not sure who drummer is here) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzEJvHE_rEg
Tony Williams 1972 (technically "latin jazz" but rocks pretty hard) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxyiNopn08w
Living Colour "Cult of Personality," drummer Will Calhoun (1988) -- "Type" would almost also work but was way too corny for me to link to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5SVDYBNrY
X, "True Love," drummer D.J. Bonebrake (1983) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5SVDYBNrY
― Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 07:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Molotov, "Amateur," drummer Randy Ebright (2004) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyHCMWTG0Ig
Los Amigos Invisibles, "Cuchi Cuchi," drummer Juan Manuel Rora (2007) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as0kIIS-FjY
― Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 07:47 (sixteen years ago) link
tony williams = genius
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 08:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Living Colour "Cult of Personality," drummer Will Calhoun (1988) -- "Type" would almost also work but was way too corny for me to link to
"type" is great. "we are the children of concrete and steel/this is the place where the truth is concealed" -- epic.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 January 2008 08:44 (sixteen years ago) link
"stereotype" / "blood type" / "are you my type?" ugh so unfortunate. but yeah calhoun, what a drummer
― Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link
did someone already post this? god they were friggin' killer live:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vo5svnNHer4
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 January 2008 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Xavion
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kwDBiaPsI5Q
Chico Science & Nacao Zumbi
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wLS_emaBH24
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qL76L3BLfLQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ul-_Ah4DfCg&feature=related
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, "El Matador"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fPNX9BL5v1w
Teena Marie, "Lips To Find You"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QDFXskispJE
Jimmy Castor Bunch
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VlRXQEA0yj0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=182kaAEScUU
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Precious Metal, "Mr. Big Stuff"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rHMknB1Mgss
Girlschool, "Tush"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8rYMLfq1tMg
Dan Reed Network, "Ritual"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=isZxL_uh3pw
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Joan and the Blackhearts cover Sly and the Family Stone
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t75jGfIW1Rk
Brownsville Station
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SxBbmoUdEac
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 January 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Some Buddy Miles for Sunday morning
Down By The River
Texas
― that's not my post, Sunday, 6 January 2008 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Two Princes and Big Me by foo fighters are the only songs on my ipod. I've been playing them over and over for 5 years now.
― CaptainLorax, Sunday, 6 January 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link
funk-rock on broadway
hair heaven on their minds you're the one that i want
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 7 January 2008 08:47 (sixteen years ago) link
My favorite STP. short and sweet and to the point. I dedicate this to all the ladies out there. http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGVobPA6b4Q
― Confounded, Thursday, 10 January 2008 05:58 (sixteen years ago) link
got those mother's finest albums, they're great! can't believe i never heard them. were they more popular in the south? they were never on yankee-rock radio that i remember. (maybe consigned to the funk stations?) the long vamp on "give you all the love" sounds a lot like "darling nikki."
speaking of which i guess darling nikki should be on this thread.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 18 January 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link
"Brownsville Station
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SxBbmoUdEac"
As great as Brownsville Station were, I don't hear a funk element in these two songs.
― Rev. Hoodoo, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
they call me HOT N NASTY
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I agree with you re "Smokin In the Boys Room"; respectfully disagree re "Barefootin," which sounds plenty funky, I'd say.
― xhuxk, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link