Taking Sides: Suicide vs. DAF

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(Just for the record, I actually used to like DAF an awful lot, having heard Der Mussolini on the radio once upon an age, at which point I rushed out and bought a few of their albums from the import bins in the BIG CITY, which certainly made it seem a lot more exciting! Most of the other stuff I remember liking from that era in my life doesn't hold the same appeal for me anymore, and knowing what I know about DAF's sound, it's probably better for it to remain in my past with some sense of fondness than put it to the test again.)

Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

suicide - first few records amazing, then lost it, vega and rev release quite good solo records but should never have reformed.

daf - first few records amazing, then lost it, delgado and gorl release quite good solo records and thankfully have never reformed.

i bet mute are going to start planning a daf remix project any day now.

stirmonster, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dave: 50+ year old men wearing shades and saying "Hey, babe" are as plentiful as lice here in America. Yet, Alan Vega still seems very cool to me. Weird.

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

duane - if you read this - didn't Dan Mancini get a ride from Alan Vega or something, or meet him, or ...?

maryann, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah & he was drunk & he said some corny stuff like "i've had so much sex & taken so many drugs to yr records, yr like the barry white of my world!" I mean *Vega* said that to *Dan*!

OK that's not true.

, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

five months pass...
REVIVE!

Was just listening to early DAF recently....in particular, "Die Kleinen Und Die Bosen". Dear god, this record is the culmination of the most gutteral and rhythmic eras of Wire, Cabaret Voltaire, and Einsterzende Neubauten all in one. I only wish each side (the studio and live sides, respectively) were expanded each to their own records.

"Ein Produkt.." is fine, too, though it sounds like a cluster diagram or blueprint for a record, more than a record itself. Lots of snippets of great musical ideas that could have become amazing compositions. Anyway, if it's true this record was a big influence on Albini, it makes a lot of sense... the rhythms, the guitar noise, all sound like they're foreshadowing Big Black and Shellac...

The "Der Mussolini" single is pure godhead. An out-of-tune bass synth sequencer commanding a slave drummer, a chorus of cartoon pigs squealing, and a singer who bursts out the names of dictators orgasmically.

I wish the rest of the three "sex" albums could match "Der Mussolini" but they don't... though there are some great moments there. And yeah, Nitzer Ebb pretty much made a five finger discount of the musical and fashion ideas from this era from DAF and ran with it.

Destroy anything post early 80s/post Mute.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

''"Ein Produkt.." is fine, too, though it sounds like a cluster diagram or blueprint for a record, more than a record itself. Lots of snippets of great musical ideas that could have become amazing compositions. Anyway, if it's true this record was a big influence on Albini, it makes a lot of sense... the rhythms, the guitar noise, all sound like they're foreshadowing Big Black and Shellac...''

that's an interesting connection. I never made it myself because I think it's such a rough record. the idea is not to expand on anything. I love it. love the fact they don't flesh anything out in songs, whereas shellac/albini always do so...

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

two words - kebab traume!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

foreshadowing Big Black - see Metal Urbain.

hstencil, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

five years pass...

Osten Währt am Längsten

blunt, Monday, 28 July 2008 04:44 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

fuckfuckfuckfuck:

Düsseldorf's notoriously risqué DAF are set to play four live dates in support of a new compilation.

DAF's provocative and sexually-charged electronic punk paved the way for EBM acts such as Die Krupps and Nitzer Ebb, and they're constantly cited as one of the groups that helped to push edgier electronic sounds into the limelight. It's now been thirty years since the release of their Ein Produkt der Deutsch-Amerikanischen Freundschaft album, and the outfit have decided to regroup for a handful of dates to celebrate the occasion. While the performances won't feature the band's original line-up, both Robert Görl and Gabi Delgado-Lopez (who became the core members following the departure of Chrislo Haas and Wolfgang Spelmans in 1981) will be present for the shows, which includes their first UK date in 25 years.

The current run of shows begin in Hamburg and Leipzig at the end of this month, with March dates planned for both Venice and London. The short tour precedes the release of a new Best Of release, which will be entitled Das Beste Von DAF - 20 Lieder der Deutsch Amerikanischen Freundschaft. This isn't their first reunion, however, as Görl and Delgado-Lopez briefly got back together in 1985 for 1st Step to Heaven and again in 2003 for Fünfzehn Neue D.A.F-Lieder. Speaking about the recent run of dates, Görl has stated that "a reunion of DAF was always in the air—it was only a matter of time." UK fans will be glad to know that after two decades, they'll be able to end their excruciating wait for a DAF live show at Islington Academy on March 28th.

Tracklist
01. Greif nach den Sternen
02. Sex unter Wasser
03. Der Mussolini
04. Ich Will
05. Verschwende Deine Jugend
06. Alle gegen Alle
07. Was ziehst Du an heute Nacht
08. Rote Lippen
09. Sato Sato
10. Ein bisschen Krieg
11. Die Götter sind Weiss
12. Im Dschungel der Liebe
13. Verlieb dich in mich
14. Der Räuber und der Prinz
15. Ich und die Wirklichkeit
16. Verehrt euren Haarschnitt
17. Goldenes Spielzeug
18. Als wärs das letzte mal
19. Liebe auf den ersten Blick
20. Prinzessin

The Grey Area of Mute will release Das Beste Von DAF - 20 Lieder der Deutsch Amerikanischen Freundschaft on April 21, 2009.

Feb 27 DAF, Uebel & Gefährlich, Hamburg
Feb 28 DAF, Lagerhof, Leipzig
Mar 14 DAF, Fucina Controvento, North
Mar 28 DAF, Islington Academy, London

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10246

rio (r1o natsume), Friday, 20 February 2009 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Gabi Delgado has left us :-(

stirmonster, Monday, 23 March 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNLORw7r_M

RIP

See also here:15 Neue DAF Lieder

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 23 March 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link


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