No one has ever done a Merle Haggard S&D? WTF (R.I.P. 2016)

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Holy shit, I forgot that there's a dixie band on this record, with clarinet/trumpet interplay and everything.
Well, one cut does anyway.
There's a dixie band on "I Love Dixie Blues", too. Somehow it works.

Keith C (lync0), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Kornrulez was OTM up there, y'know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-vM2b_nMKM

Might be my favourite Merle Haggard song of the lot.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 4 May 2008 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link

this dude is one of the greatest singers ever

J0hn D., Sunday, 4 May 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

and songwriters.

m coleman, Sunday, 4 May 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link

The box set Down Every Road is so incredible...love the liner notes which explain how Haggard wanted to sing like both Lefty Frizzell and Bing Crosby, and was able to pull it off. But even the recent stuff has been fantastic: check out "If I Could Only Fly" which he sang at Tammy Wynette's funeral.

Euler, Sunday, 4 May 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

currently wading through 130+ song overview of career

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Merle's next on my list to investigate. I'm knee-deep in Waylon Jennings right now.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

No mention of "Mama's Hungry Eyes" yet. SUCH a powerful performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1yb4UtwJgE

Agonizing over tight harmonies and solid grooves (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I've had "Songs I'll Always Sing" and a couple other random things for awhile now but this sort of career-spanning wealth of material is a little overwhelming. some of the 80s stuff is marred by that era's production flaws (shitty drum sounds, flat acoustic guitar textures, no reverb) unfortunately

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

like dude doesn't require synth horns, y'know?

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

for convenience's sake, I got the single-disc comp Hag last August and, seriously, it has not left the area around my stereo.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I admit I'm partial to the early stuff, that Bakersfield 60s sound is just amazing

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Shakey, are you listening to the Down Every Road box? That's a fine piece of work, although it ends in 1993. Or is there a new box set?

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm listening to what I linked upthread - not sure what it is tbh, it seems bigger/more comprehensive than box sets I see around ye internet. the tracks are also arranged alphabetically (rather than chronologically) which is not so helpful

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

That looks good---doesn't have "Kern River" or his take on "I Never Go Around Mirrors", but it has some 2000s songs. Also it has "Are The Good Times Really Over (I Wish A Buck Was Still Silver)", which could pass for a Joseph Stark anthem.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I was trying to pick out what songs came from what year but I just gave up eventually - too many. seems to cover a lot of crucial ground tho, and definitely has all the stuff was I already had a passing familiarity with

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, a question concerning "mama's hungry eyes" (which someone should do as a medley with eric carmen's "hungry eyes"). john d., if you are listening, this one's for you:

the chorus is as follows:

Mama never had the luxuries she wanted
But it wasn't cause my daddy didn't try.
She only wanted things she really needed;
One more reason for my mama's hungry eyes.

in the first line, haggard elicits pathos by telling us his mom didn't get the "luxuries she wanted."

in the third line, he says that she only wanted what she needed, evoking a different kind of pathos: that of the selfless mother.

this is a contradiction, no?

we can resolve this contradiction by suggesting that haggard is being clever: he's saying, in an oblique way, that necessities were, in fact, "luxuries" to his family, that they didn't even have what they needed.

but this seems rather too ingenious. i tend to think there's just a flaw here.

not to say it isn't a beautiful song.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

necessities were, in fact, "luxuries" to his family, that they didn't even have what they needed

pretty clear this is what he means, to me. don't see how this is oblique?

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I grew up with Swingin' Doors and I'm a Lonesome Fugitive.

akm, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Two years ago or so they paired up ten of his mid '60s to early '70s albums on five two-for-one CDs with excellent remastering and new liner notes. I have those ten albums in my iPod and they're just breathtakingly awesome.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

. don't see how this is oblique?

well, he doesn't sing, "mama never had the things that she needed"--you have to piece it together.

not convinced this is by design.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, it's not obscure, but it's oblique on a literal level, as in "indirectly stated or expressed"

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I side with the "it's a poetic oversight" argument, but would hasten to add that there are different kinds of wanting.

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

yes but the other would be "wanted for," no?

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it elides, you can cut a pop song a little slack on that front

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

no all pop songs must be grammatically correct

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

this fuckin guy. man what a catalog.

who else was part of the Bakersfield country scene besides Buck and Merle...?

Wet Hot American Oil Spill (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 March 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

good question - i'd love to hear a comp of Bakersfield also-rans from the golden era

Brio, Friday, 5 March 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

oh right duh. I have their stuff with Gene Clark but that's it...

Wet Hot American Oil Spill (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 March 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

wynn stewart

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 5 March 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Gosdins aren't exactly Bakersfield sound though, not the stuff I've heard anyway. More dopesmokers than beerdrinkers.

Brio, Friday, 5 March 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh wait, Merle's a big dopesmoker too, right?

Brio, Friday, 5 March 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah. Buck Owens, probably not, heh

Wet Hot American Oil Spill (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 March 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The Gosdins are an odd case. Leading lights of of Gary Paxton's Bakersfield operation, they got snapped up by Capital and paired off/Ken Nelson(?) as kind of a middleground progressive (capital "C"/lowercase "r") Country-rock band.

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 March 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Chuck E. to thread re

making it your ironic nickname doesn't make it any less true (M.V.), Friday, 5 March 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

"I Am What I Am"

making it your ironic nickname doesn't make it any less true (M.V.), Friday, 5 March 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

(I have pre-ordered it on faith alone.)

M.V., Friday, 5 March 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

lovin the fuzz guitar on Merle's "Ramblin' Fever"

Wet Hot American Oil Spill (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Got Keep Movin' On for a couple of bucks thanks to National Record Store Day. You probably know "Movin' On." The rest is very pleasant ("September in Miami").

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 April 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Continuing my wade through his catalogue I got the 1999 remastered version of:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/614RM8B8X4L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

It's got the title track and "My Favorite Memory," plus you may know Rosanne Cash and George Jones' versions of "You Don't Have Very Far To Go" and George Jones' "I Always Get Lucky With You," respectively. The singing and playing are top-notch, and they do wonders for the reactionary "Are The Good Times Really Over."

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

hugely underrated merle jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia14GkfSMEg

clip features some of the best damn singing, holy God

xp Well, it's not entirely reactionary:

"I wish Coke was still cola and a joint was a bad place to be.
It was back before Nixon lied to us all on TV."

Great song, either way. And my favorite album by him in the past three decades.

xhuxk, Friday, 14 May 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Any advice on where else to go in the eighties? Amazon has a cheap two-fer of Kern River and Chill Factor. Is it worth buying?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 May 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I could be wrong, but I'd say hold out for $1 copies of those. I like Kern River's title track (still have the 45), but don't remember the album being much great shakes. It's been a while, though.

xhuxk, Friday, 21 May 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

my dad was a huge Merle Haggard fan when i was a little kid, so i know his catalogue up until i guess the early 70s pretty well (plus a decade or so ago i dropped cash on his "down every road" box-set). it's the stuff from the 80s onwards that i know little-to-nothing about (again, except what's on that box set). i really dunno what it is about this guy that makes me like his music so much (especially since i usually have no time for country music) other than childhood memories, other than just his general lyrical outlook and musical sophistication (i used to refer to him as a countrified Frank Zappa, if that makes any real sense).

keine Macht für dich mehr! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 23 May 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

back to the barrooms from... 1980 (?) rules. to answer question above. merle's late-80s stuff is suspicious though.

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

when i was big one of my favorite songs was "silver wings"

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

(and i didn't hear it from either my great parents or my great radio. i heard the knitters doing it.0

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

from Richard Bishop's FB page:

My mother was Merle's English teacher in High School in Bakersfield. I'd like to think that she had some influence on his writing, or at least on his arrest record. RIP Merle (more in comments)

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

That NYer piece is incredible

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

1994 and 1996 are both good, solid albums with quite the possibly the worst artwork in the history of major popular music. i'm not even sure it qualifies as artwork actually. it's more like his label couldn't even be bothered to come up with titles or art for his work anymore. one of the many, many things i loved about him is how he kept pushing forward with his art long after other people stopped caring.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

Man I love Merle Haggard. His best songs are as good as anybody's.

2016 is already one of the worst years for music deaths ever, and it's still early April.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

xxxpost My dad had an 8-Track player in our motor home, but only maybe six 8-Track tapes and Songs I'll Always Sing was one of them. We'd take a three week meandering-around-the-country trip every summer and I heard that Merle comp hundreds of times.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

Songs I'll Always Sing

that was the second country album i ever owned, after 24 of hank williams' greatest hits, and one of the most important albums in my life.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

I don't know a lot about Merle Haggard, but there's one song I revere: "Sing Me Back Home." Especially the way it's used in Don Shebib's Goin' Down the Road. Wish I could link to it (can't even find a still): a couple of old winos are trying to scrounge up a drink in Toronto's Regent Park area, and after they drop and break the wine bottle they're working on, a street busker plays the Haggard song. Incredible scene.

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link

Man, I evolved--with no idea that the Lord had all this in mind for me.

sounds like he's describing intelligent design :)

i own about 30 merle haggard albums and wouldn't get rid of a single one; he wrote more good songs than bob dylan IMO

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

Footlights is all time song for me

Heez, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

Tribute tonight at 8 on WFMU from Mrs. Fine Wine

Yer Blois (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link

1996 has the killer Iris Dement cover.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 April 2016 01:26 (eight years ago) link

not much to say except goddamn and he will be missed, RIP

ulysses, Thursday, 7 April 2016 01:36 (eight years ago) link

xpost, Hag's cover of No Time to Cry is so good. Iris Dement returned the favor with a killer cover of Big City.

that's not my post, Thursday, 7 April 2016 03:34 (eight years ago) link

digging through my merle records

holy fuck did he write a lot of songs

a ton of great ones, too

it's almost superhuman

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 7 April 2016 03:40 (eight years ago) link

did not know he was a Giants fan. this warms my heart much more than I thought it would.

octobeard, Thursday, 7 April 2016 06:01 (eight years ago) link

Kaleb Horton killing it with this piece

http://www.mtv.com/news/2863329/merle-haggard-son-of-bakersfield/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

This one also top notch

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1089-why-merle-haggard-was-a-country-game-changer/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link

Paul Schrader w/ a good Merle story on FB:

In 1977, post Taxi-Driver, I'd researched and written a script for Warner Bros on "Eight Scenes from the Life of Hank Williams." I wanted to interest Merle in playing the lead so I got Warners to arrange a meeting. I drove up to Bakersfield and after waiting was ushered into a spartan office ("spartan" in terms of the Hollywood offices I had come to expect). Apart from Haggard gold records there were two inexpensive framed photos on the wall. Another wait, then Merle arrived. Didn't sit, didn't say a word. After a beat, he pointed to the photos, "Do you know who this is?" I looked, replied: "That's Jimmy Rodgers and the other, I believe, is a very early photo of Bob Wills." Haggard nodded, sat down, waited another beat, then said, "What's on your mind?" I'd passed the Hollywood screenwriter admittance quiz. We talked Hank for a bit and I left him with the script. Later he contacted me, saying if it were Rodgers or Wills he'd be tempted, but "Hank just doesn't feel right for me." In the end the script was never made because Wesley Rose (brother of Fred), holder of the song rights, felt the script was too "dark."

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 7 April 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

huh! did anything ever come of that schrader script?
anyway, RIP! an amazing songwriter, obviously. kind of blows me away how much is packed into the three minutes of "sing me back home" without it seeming the least bit labored or self conscious. just perfect.

tylerw, Thursday, 7 April 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link

felt the script was too "dark."

"so i just changed a few names and it became the screenplay to patty hearst."

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 7 April 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

I'm finding the various reactions to his death oddly reassuring in their quiet reverence. No histrionics, no hyperbole, just deep, honest respect for a very rich body of work.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 April 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link

My neighbor just told me he went to the funeral.

Freakshow At The Barn Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 April 2016 14:13 (eight years ago) link

met David Cantwell on Thursday. Sweet guy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 April 2016 14:17 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, you guys are all at EMP, iirc.

Freakshow At The Barn Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 April 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link

He, like you, recommended listening to "No Time To Cry."

Freakshow At The Barn Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 April 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

https://radiopublic.com/reekola-midnite-G2M44p/ep/s1!419be?fbclid=IwAR03xtphXyJ1hibegTBCe3b0d4_W-wccwQEoXBu3T_cnTRGG0_9ryngtkCM

I haven't listened to this (yet), here's three hours of Merle talking to Art Fucking Bell from 1997.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 September 2019 05:02 (four years ago) link

holy shit

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 September 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I just learned how to play Footlights on piano. What a great song. Never heard Miranda’s version!

Heez, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

uh sorry -- "Misery and Gin." I'd been listening to Serving 190 Proof this afternoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5s8oPID1gA

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 02:15 (four years ago) link

ha you led me down a path of footlights covers, none of which were good. well hank jr's wasn't awful but pretty uninspired

Heez, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link

Yet another thread I didn't get the memo about---even more dismayed to find no memo to self about most of the albums from his last decade or so, when he was still pretty prolific. I do recall hearing several take some unexpected turns. Here's a few comments---starting with my Nash Scene ballot re 2011 releases, with paste from Rolling Country:
Working In Tennessee is a lot of fun, mostly barroom/boxcar/daydream sing-alongs, with a natcherly blooming windowbox of the fatalist, affirmative and absurd, especially on "Laugh It Off." Flexes some mellow heart muscle too (some, not a ton, which wouldn't suit him, nor me).
To this, xhuxx a.d. responded:
Favorite song is the homelessness one about Saginaw that shares its name with a much worse Red Hot Chili Peppers hit; "Laugh It Off" second place probably. Solid record, but there's a lot I could quibble about, if I had time to quibble these days.
And I then 'llowed:
Xxhux's aforementioned quibbles with Working In Tennessee might well incl use of sureshot themes, re aforementioned barroom/boxcar/daydream sing-alongs, but his whiff-of-bs-bearing paper airplanes are bullseye or close enough, often enough for lazier me to be impressed--he really is Working it, somewhut. Top Ten? We'll see.
Nope---seemed a bit too distanced---ended up as Hon. Mention---although I said on the ballot that "It would have made my Top Twelve, if there was one." (Should have done it anyway; no Hon. Mention on there either, but it's one of those categories I always stick in.)
But no hesitation for this 2015 Top Ten pick:
Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard, Django and Jimmie: opening title song's no big deal, except for the way it turns out to be an example of the variety of the influences and results, rounded up from here and there, in Willie and Merle's own histories, still in the making, or at least here again for the taking. Here, ladies and gents, we are afforded a range and perspective, with the necessary degree of distance, for (for instance), a moonlight cruise by "Where Dreams Come To Die," and calmly outrageous tour bus tales of "Missing Ol' Johnny Cash," with deadpan contributions by guest minimalist Bobby Bare. There's also the covert regret and overt brush-off (urge behind both still felt) in "Don't Think Twice (It's Alright)." Philosophical sharing for sure, but not too long-winded or sweet: "The Only Man Wilder Than Me" is saluted for having "a mind indifferent and free," among other blunt & blunted, no-bogart attributes suitable for pictures of dawgs playin' poker.

dow, Friday, 31 January 2020 01:30 (four years ago) link

Then a 2016 release:

Merle Haggard's Live In San Francisco 1965 opens with a series of endings, which work pretty well: the last 48 seconds of "Devil Woman" is about all I can take, especially since he clones the hair-oil sanctimony of Marty Robbins' original delivery---then make way for the exciting climaxes of "Movin' On", "Orange Blossom Special", and "Love Is Gonna Live Here Again"! First full-length (2:58) is a very fine "Blue Yodel", with Johnny Gimble's blue fiddle swinging out and back into a tensile combo of early Strangers (later, Bonnie Owens is the effective singing actress on "Lead me On", and caps the uptempo "Cowboy's Sweetheart" with her own, Swiss-tending yodels, while the rhythm guitarist enjoys working at "Harold's Super Service", except for the big guy who always wants like the sign says for a little bitty amount of gas, even at the Pearly Gates). Mostly we get Reader's Digest editions of mostly original early highlights, some already classic, all quite fresh, as is the Hag's voice, yodeling and all---the more striking after last year's collab with Willie, Django and Jimmie, where his always right, but economizing, sometimes ragged delivery made it not terribly surprising that he checked out with respiratory problems. (Still nasty news, of course). Yet the deft terseness of his final round is accentuated here too, making the candid pictures, cards from life's "other" side. cut just right: ain't that it, often as not. "Okie From Musgokee" and "Fightin' Side of Me" have yet to show up, but/and "A Soldier's Letter" certainly works as a sign-off. 16 tracks, 30 minutes.

dow, Friday, 31 January 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link

Iris DeMent does an amazing cover of Big City.

that's not my post, Friday, 31 January 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link


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