Taking Sides: 1970s Heart vs. 1980s Heart

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Will anyone vote for 80s Heart? The 70s Heart wasn't a great band per se but those singles are classic. "Crazy On You" is flawless. And, yeah, whoever decided "Robert Plant sounds like wants to sing like a woman. Why not replace him with, like, a woman?" had a stroke of genius for sure.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 August 2004 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm crossing my fingers Chuck will show up tomorrow and back me up on the '80s Heart vote.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 23 August 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Thought he was a Dreamboat Annie fan.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 August 2004 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to come out of the closet in favor of 80's Heart. But that's probably because I've pretty much had my fill of 70's Heart on the radio. I remember the 80's stuff fondly, but haven't heard most of it since.

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link

chris and i disagree on "allies"

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Heart played my dad's high school before they hit big. He wasn't really into them.

I'll take the 80's, for the brilliance of 'What About Love' and 'Alone', which are two of my more favourite power ballads. They're also almost the same song, coming in at exactly 3:39 apiece, iirc, not to mention the similar progression.

derrick (derrick), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

"What About Love" and "Alone" are the two songs I keep coming back to. As overblown and glossy as they are...

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

you people that love 80s Heart are so "ironic", it's like rain

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

"Magic Man" and especially "Crazy On You" were two of the finest singles of 1976, which makes them two of the finest EVER. The combination of the Wilson sisters' harmonizing plus those electric and acoustic guitars (and dulcimers and whatnot) made Heart one of the best high-frequency specialists since The Byrds. And if much of the rest of their greatest '70s stuff is Led Zep-derivative with a bit of estrogen, well, that's not a dis in my book!

As for the '80s stuff, I wish I could be charitable, but aside from "Never", all those power-ballads really annoyed me, as do 90% of all p.b.'s everywhere, and I don't see my opinion changing anytime soon. (It didn't help that 1985-'87 struck me as particularly lousy years for rock radio, largely due to the ubiquitous Phil Collins and Sting.) But the Wilson sisters will always have a warm place in my heart (no pun intended, I SWEAR!), and who knows: maybe I'll check out that new one. Begs2Differ's enthusiasm's contagious, even to a seventies snob like me.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link

zeppelin vs. bon jovi

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

you people that love 80s Heart are so "ironic", it's like rain

On my wedding day?

No, I really just decided to stop kidding myself and fully re-embrace all the music I loved in my teens. Heart first and foremost.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

bon jovi

80's Hearts! These Dreams is their best song.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Good to see all the Heart love. My fandom has earned me abuse in hipster circles for years.

As to the TS: '70s definitely, but don't miss 'Who Will You Run To' (great 'you-can-leave-but-you're-gonna-crash-and-burn' song) and 'Nothing at All'.

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Heart played my dad's high school before they hit big. He wasn't really into them.

....they played my highschool back in the seventies[guess i am old enough to be your dad,heh.] 70's heart without a doubt. anyone that got to see them belt out the led zep covers back then still rave about how great they sounded. i ♥ 70's heart.

william (william), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

80's heart.
same as johnny fever: it's what i heard first, and it's what i spent my early teens listening to.bad animals, and heart are both amazing!
faves would be: 'there's the girl', 'the wolf', 'bad animals'... basically all the big dramatic sounding songs, though the other stuff rocks too.

i got into 70's heart later. all the songs mentioned here: 'crazy on you', 'magic man', 'baracuda' etc. are classics. and i love all that NEARLY as much!
but i think it's the opposite to what the guy quoting alanis said. 70's heart are cool enough to say that you like them to most people, without fear of looking dumb or 'ironic'. but because of the bad haircuts, and the silly lace&leather clothing, i think it takes someone genuine stand up and say they prefer 80's heart.
not only are me and johnny fever right, but we're practically heroes too!

ZpoonZ, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Jeff W OTM about "Who Will You Run To"

I will stick up for 90's Heart as the Lovemongers allbum is pretty great.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:00 (nineteen years ago) link

THESE DREAMS

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm with the 70s stuff.

jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
> My fandom has earned me abuse in hipster circles for years.

Oh, Jeff! Visit us more often! It's safe to talk about Heart around me. Especially since there are so few female-fronted rock bands being played on the radio nowdays. I was listening to "Dog and Butterfly" last night (my favorite Heart album)and it was really helping me though a rough night, and that's what brought me to ILM this morning on my breaktime to see if there were any Heart threads to contribute to.

I would have to say that 70s is my favorite Heart, but that I don't mind 80s Heart in small doses. "These Dreams" being my favorite from that time. (I'm NOT a power ballad fan, but I love Ann's voice, so if I'm going to have to listen to power ballads in the dentist's office, it's better to hear Heart than, say, BonJOvi).

I can't choose a favorite song from the 70s -- there's just too many excellent Heart singles. And probably knows them all because they're all still in heavy rotation on many channels and shows. But my favorite non-single from that time would probably be "Hijinx" (where Ann's voice is very whispery and almost scat-like, and you can hear her smiling and sighing while she sings)-- if only because it shows a different side of Ann's singing. It shows that she knows how to be subtle too. I wish there were more tunes like it, but maybe the rarity is what makes it so special. Also love that blues-type guitar.
And I'll agree with whoever nominated "Love Alive" --it's perfect for fans of Led Zep who want to hear the woman's side of the equation for once!

Glad to hear good things about their latest albums -- I'll have to investigate (after payday naturally).

stripey, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
"HOW CAN I REFUSE" KIXXX AZZZ!

J (Jay), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

70s Heart RULES!

That band the Wilson sisters had was amazing. The lead guitar on Magic Man and Crazy On You? C'mon! That is top notch playing! And the weird slinky funk of Little Queen? To die for!

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

You're kidding, right? 70's Heart is the only Heart.

OTM

80's Heart is categorically indefensible. Even the Wilson sister themselves can't stomach it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Talking about the words to "Crazy On You" with my sister some time ago, she pointed out how they seamlessly integrate a number of major social issues of the time - concerns with madness/altered mental states/mental illness/depression, war, domesticity, ecology - into a song about a sexual encounter. It adds a whole other level to how I enjoy the song. I'd already thought it was perfectly put together for a Phrygian rock song.

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

80's Heart is categorically indefensible. Even the Wilson sister themselves can't stomach it.

Alex you so crazy.

I just picked up The Road Home, their semi-acoustic live album from 1994 with mandolin and string quartet arrangement by John Paul Jones...holy SHIT is Ann's voice amazing on this release. Really, honestly, one of the best vocal performances I've ever heard.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 16 June 2005 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

wow! I'm sold! to the want list it goes

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 16 June 2005 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
trip fontaine

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Today, "Alone" is the best fucking song EVAR!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you ever heard the acoustic version on The Road Home? SPROING!

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The 101 (a DirecTV music station, where they pick 4 lives shows a month, & replay them ad nauseum in between a smattering of videos) has been playing this 90 minute Heart show where the groop + strings go through all of Dreamboat Annie, "Mistral Wind," "Goodbye Blue Sky" from Pink Floyd, The Who's "Love Reign O'er Me," & 2 Zep songs ("Black Dog" & "Misty Mountain Hop").

I am now totally in love w/ Nancy Wilson.

David R., Monday, 14 May 2007 04:31 (sixteen years ago) link

this

tipsy mothra, Monday, 14 May 2007 08:02 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

never noticed the ann wilson/chan marshall resemblance until this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyR-HmJS2qQ&feature=related

gershy, Thursday, 29 November 2007 08:33 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh....

BARRACUDA!

The Reverend, Friday, 28 March 2008 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I would rock out with all this white chicks.

The Reverend, Friday, 28 March 2008 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love "Barracuda." I love "Never." I don't see Robert Forster's name here, even though he did a fine version of "Alone."

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 28 March 2008 07:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

guys, Heart!!!!

heart goin ham (deej), Monday, 2 November 2009 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Whatever happened
to Haikunym-slash-Begs2
Differ, anyways?

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 2 November 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 Heart.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Monday, 2 November 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

xp he still posts but i forget what his new sn is

heart goin ham (deej), Monday, 2 November 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Cave17Matt

51 sent (The Reverend), Monday, 2 November 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

70s heart is some of the dopest shit ever

51 sent (The Reverend), Monday, 2 November 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"Nothin' At All."

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, that looks familiar. So he just posts in prose nowadays, then

xpost

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Everyone says our new singer sounds like Anne Wilson. I get excited every time someone says that.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Not much of a dan beyond Crazy on You and a few othe singles

That said, I watched the Behind the Music: Remastered on them last night. Difference w the old BtM was that it spent more time on their crummy post-Heart solo work and less on Ann's weight problems, which was kind of sad and poignant in the first one and really elevated their story to being about the pressures women face in the music industry.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Eesh, typos. Fan not dan and a few OTHER singles.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw them a few nights ago for a freelance assignment for the local alt-weekly. Actually really good, though too power-ballad heavy for my tastes. But "Magic Man" and "Barracuda" killed.

we wanted lime (mike a), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link

That new song they performed on Jimmy Fallon last week was weird. Heavy, but very UN-Heart like.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 07:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I would rock out with all this white chicks.

― The Reverend, Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:30 PM Bookmark

The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 07:50 (thirteen years ago) link

That one of my favorite ILM one-line posts ever.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 07:53 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, that thing looks pretty dope.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

I know! So tempting...

EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Saw them under the arch in St. Louis on the 4th of July and they totally sold me on some of the 80s hits...even the obligatory new stuff wasn't too bad. I love how unabashed they are about being Zep worshippers - their play-on music was "In the Light" and they encored with "Misty Mountain Hop."

bentelec, Friday, 13 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

I think I love their misty mountain hop as much as the original, if not slightly more

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

I bought it for a friend for her birthday and we're having a listening party tomorrow!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 13 July 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Let us know just how much it rocks.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 July 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

Demos are amaaaaaaaaaaazing, Zep covers sound basically exactly like LZ in a good way. Booklet has great pictures. Worth it!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

Aaargh! I kinda wanted to hear that it sucked so I wouldn't want it so much.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry :( Even the 80s songs I didn't know (ie not the singles) were surprisingly good. Demos made us stop talking and just sit there and listen. Magic Man was my favorite, I think.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

How dare it be worthwhile!

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

need to get this - they were my first Favorite Band

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

I just bought the box set from Amazon - it's a $23 "cyber Monday" deal for the next few hours.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 November 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

ooh tempting

Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 November 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

I got a gift certificate for my birthday so it was a no brainer.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 November 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

itchy mouse finger right now

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Amazon must have shipped it from the same town because this came today. La Lechera wasn't kidding about the demos. Astounding. 5 songs in and already totally worth $23.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

Only bummer is not getting the Zep bonus CD. Such is life.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link

oooooh....

that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 06:16 (eleven years ago) link

Watched the DVD tonight. They were damn good live in 1976. Damn good.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

God, what I would give for a remastered/mixed version of the 1985 s/t album. It's the thinnest sound ever.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 22 September 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...
four months pass...

Please. PLEASE. UNDERSTAAAAAND.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 February 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link

That song is hilarious.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Monday, 12 February 2018 03:30 (six years ago) link

dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga-dunh-digga
dunh-DURRRR-DURRRRR-DURRRRR
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh....

BARRACUDA!

― The Reverend, Friday, March 28, 2008 2:28 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would rock out with all this white chicks.

― The Reverend, Friday, March 28, 2008 2:30 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:D

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 February 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

one year passes...
nine months pass...

wow ann wilson was some kind of singer

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

this band was always background to me, but i had an urge to listen to barracuda and now i am listening to a ton of heart

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

NEVER is amazing, WTF. Rock out with the windows rolled down sometime!!!

brimstead, Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

Anyway, I can’t decide

brimstead, Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

God, what I would give for a remastered/mixed version of the 1985 s/t album. It's the thinnest sound ever.


Agreed. Did this ever happen?

brimstead, Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

If it did please LMK!

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

didn't realize the s/t album had some decent deep cuts until a bearded guy on a Twitch channel played some of it!

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

The Wolf!

brimstead, Sunday, 22 March 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

While investigating how they got from A to B, I stumble across this:

"This Man Is Mine" (1982)

...a supposed hit that I don't remember at all. And it's so oddly uncharacteristic, maybe suggesting a Rickie Lee Jones influence?

Josefa, Sunday, 22 March 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

this video, simple as it is, brings me such joy. the hair! Ann glaring at the screen with badass menace. spins! flashy clothes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWzy5q_M5Ho

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 01:31 (three months ago) link

Alone carries a colossal emotional heft, which eclipses everything else in their catalogue, it's seriously silly.

collapsible chair, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 11:42 (three months ago) link


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