― =[[ (eman), Saturday, 19 August 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link
Later Schnitzler is all freeform electronic. If you like Cluster 74-78 you definitely need Con, it's the warped, atonal, alien insect garden to Sowiesoso's quiet forest lakeside picnic. Produced by Peter Baumann around the same time as Roedelius' Jardin au Fou & Lustwandel.
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 19 August 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― =[[ (eman), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link
xp: yeah! thanks milton, cause crack in the cosmic egg isn't exactly helpful re: tha schnizz.
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 August 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link
i've seen rot and blau talked up a lot but have yet to check them out due to laziness or whatever. still not quite sure what to expect but i'm kinda excited to finally hear them.
― =[[ (eman), Sunday, 20 August 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.matthowarth.com/
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link
still haven't heard Gelb yet though .. GOTTA get that one soon..
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 20 August 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Listened to Gelb four times in a row last night, beautifully weird, I think this one is one of my favorites now. Want to hear Live Action 77 and Charred Machinery.
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Or has it and I somehow missed it?
― Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 24 August 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Herr Fahrstuhl (Herr Fahrstuhl), Sunday, 27 August 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
it includes his 'disco' record from 1980 - the 'auf dem schwarzen kanal' ep - which has devastated my head.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 15 September 2006 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link
yow
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=848162
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
someone kick that ass in the nuts.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link
also, hi record labels of the world - how about some conrad schnitzler reissues that stay in print for more than a month?
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
for example he's trying to sell an old spalax version of "seligspreisung" (no remaster or bonus tracks) for $30 so obv he's charging idiotic prices
but i should still expect to spend $100-200 on the set, right?
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 15 September 2007 06:06 (sixteen years ago) link
they were $26 around here when they came out ($22+shipping from the label, which is how i got them), so if they're "new" i'd bet on at least $125. i'm really wishing i had bought schwartz and rot (have the plate lunch jewel case version of the latter) now, didn't expect them to sell out so fast.
faux-xp: wait a minute, now that i look at that link... DVD? i don't recall a DVD ever being part of that set.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 07:21 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBUa4EFDc_M
Pictures from the 1969 film by Dietmar Buchmann shows scenes from Conrad Schnitzler's Zodiak Free Arts Lab
www.myspace.com/freeartslab
― Milton Parker, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link
"trigger trilogy"??
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link
its weird that considering how you can't get people to shush about cluster / tangerine dream / neu / etc these days there's so little hype on kluster on the internet. what should i expect if i haven't heard them before? cluster 71 type of sound?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know about kluster, but did anybody buy the two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac last month, the ones with the dandy jack, bruno pronsato and thomas fehlmann remixes? they're great!
― r1o natsume, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link
xp: sort of. or a little like the first tangerine dream. or AMM or something. eh? water just put out a 3 disc kluster anthology with the albums and one unreleased (?) thing.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.jazzloft.com/p-47658-1970-1971-boxed-set.aspx
I love the first 3 Kluster records. They're studio recordings of live improvisations, a lot more murky and primitive than Cluster '71, but still great. Very much like an extension of all the most extreme noisy aspects of what Schnitzler was doing on the first Tangerine Dream record. First side of the first two albums have freakout religious texts recited in German on them which throws a lot of people off the trail. The original 90's CD issues on Hypnotic had bonus tracks taken from this which were wisely left off, there's no new material. When I heard these in the 90's they were a little too out for me, though I could respect them, but I come back to these every few years and they sound better every time, and when the noise CDR release scene started up and Spencer and Pete started handing me Skaters / Yellow Swans things, these Kluster records from 1970 were the first things I thought of
>two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac
I want these
Captain Trip also put these out, haven't heard any of the early 80's self-releases, I should check some of them out:
Early Self-Product Series - Including the 5 titles (CTCD-614-618) which are: -CONSEQUENZ -CONTEMPORA -CONTEXT -CONVEX - 1.7.84 - and a bonus CD (CTCD-619) in special outer box (totally 6CD box-set). This bonus CD is called 3.3.83 and was originally pressed in an edition of 1 copy for Conrad Schnitzler personally! Recorded in 1983, including bonus tracks. 2008 digital remaster version with stumped paper sleeve, same as the original.
haven't heard Trigger Trilogy either! It is just impossible to keep up with this guy. I'm still going back to Ballet Statique often enough that it's tough to move forward
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Bumping for new reissue of the Silver LP from the colour series. Kinda tempted.
― laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Silver LP? What's that?
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Taken from sessions recorded at the same time as the colour series (Rot, Blau, Schwarz, etc). Unreleased, perhaps? Warning bells??
― laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
All I know is it's a QBICO release. I saw it at Volcanic Tongue. Not much word about it elsewhere.
― laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
samples sound ok to me, never heard any of that stuff before: http://www.juno.co.uk/products/341746-01.htm
simultaneously the best and the worst album cover.
I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals, four tracks absolute top notch. the tracks stay looping in place for 4-6 minutes each, but all the sounds are beautifully off
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Schnitzler also has the best lines in this: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34729/kraftwerk-and-the-electronic-revolution/
a little dry overall but worth seeing if you like Krautrock -- lots of Schnitzler / Roedelius / Moebius & Schulze being interviewed about Berlin / Düsseldorf 1960-1970. Organization isn't even mentioned until 40 minutes in, they're too busy talking about Zodiac Free Arts Lab.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
shouldn't have even linked to that review, though I can see why most Kraftwerk fans are going to be bored by the first hour of this DVD. I was laughing thinking about them during the 5 minute section where they're enthusiastically talking up the first three Kluster records, culminating in them finally fading up an excerpt: three people banging on metal plates and moaning into heavy tape echo
I love those records
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
samples of "silver" sound pretty good. i was just listening to GRUN or whatever this morning.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link
does forced exposure still distro qbico? i just realized i haven't seen any of their releases in a long time.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:51 (fifteen years ago) link
thx to this thread i am finally checking out the CON box set... and now i'm mad at myself for not doing it before. i can see 'con'/'ballet statique' quickly turning into an all time favorite
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:36 (fifteen years ago) link
man "bie ie blaue blume blüht" off of the green one could totally use some kinda basic channel style rejiggering. not that it isn't brilliant already.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
If I love "Fabrik" (which I heard on the amazing Optimo Cold War mix), where do I go next with CS?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link
that's from "auf dem schwarzen kanal" from 1980. i think that was reissued on cd as con 2+, so that'd be a place to start, con is also pretty good.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals
Yes, that album's really good!
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:11 (fifteen years ago) link
ok for years one of my favorite Schnitzler albums has been this absolutely stupid goofy cassette of 80's technopop that a friend dubbed me, no information available at all
Conrad Schnitzler/Gregor Schnitzler - Roofmusic = the bonus CD in that last Captain Trips box set
http://www.japanimprov.com/indies/captaintrip/berlinexpress.html
track 8 = 'Turkish Man Like To Dance'track 9 = 'Tell me why you leave me now / Our love was good enough'
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 15 August 2009 08:44 (fourteen years ago) link
'Consequenz II' is just as good, slightly even more together even. it's not music that develops, but the sounds are in and of themselves so disorienting that by the end of each 2 or 3 minute track you can get really bent out of shape
& people are still trying to catch up to something as pure as 'Windmill'
― Milton Parker, Friday, 6 August 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Just bought Zug, a piece originally issued on The Red Cassette, now reissued on vinyl on a new label, m=minimal. Backed with remixes of the piece by Pole (!) and borngräber and strüver, whom I know nothing about. Currently listening for the first time, it's pretty & mindblowing at the same time.
― willem, Thursday, 9 September 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Melody is the WORM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbKmFERgmI
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
LP of live recordings from 72 sounding amazing:
http://www.furtherrecords.org/index.html
― prior, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link
Count me in, too.
But I don't really see why it being a long e-mail and parts of it in German should obstruct it being posted in full, if you think it can be interesting to many?
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
if it was $10 i bet i could get 10 friends to buy it
ich habe vier jahre deutsche klasse gelearned im schule
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
see if you can spot the fake german in that sentence
for what it's worth ILX has some folks who do small publishing (forget their usernames), they did chapbooks for Abbott and ZS
chancepress.com
― sleeve, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
blurb.com books can look pretty nice too
― original bgm, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
i think we're down to 2,994 now
<3 all of you
posting to ILM from my phone, in the hospital--today totally sucks :(
― geeta, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
ugh, sympathies
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
conrad schnitzler archive & live cassette concert mixed by gen ken montgomery, streaming now on wfmu
with promised special guest appearence by g. dayal
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
Oh great!
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
Very interesting. Only complaint is the background music playing during the interview parts is too loud.
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for listening, you guys!
it was definitely worth extending my NYC trip for this, though i am now coming down with a lousy cold
― geeta, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
I'd say even a cold was worth it, loved listening to it! Great and fitting tribute to a wonderful man <3
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
a few snapshots from yesterday's WFMU session:
http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/tapes.jpg
http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/kwh.jpg
http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/schoenheit.jpg
― geeta, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
I had a splendid time listening to it yesterday Geeta, a very fitting tribute!
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 28 October 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
Sometimes my friends would recognise me and come up to me, say, ‘Hey, Con, what are you doing?’ I would just speak to them in a robot voice through the loudspeaker. ‘I do not understand. I am not Con. Would you like to buy a cassette?’”
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
oh, there's a pic too
http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/schnitzler__conrad/Schnitzler-street.jpg
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
wow that's great. people who figured out how to live imho.
― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
classic pic!
― geeta, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
been listening to "Blau" a lot lately - does anyone know what the "Wild Space" bonus tracks are? very cool but clearly much more recent than the actual album!
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
now I'm onto Con..crazy how much "Ballet Statique" seems to have influenced Underworld
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
röt and blau reissued on bureau b!
picked up blau today, röt got backordered
here's hoping for schwarz, gelb, grön, con 1, con 2+ and con 3 ...
― the late great, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
errr grün
Yeah, I got Blau, too. Already had it on CD but I'm more likely to listen to side-long electronic tracks on LP. Hope they do Schwarz et al, too!
― Amoeba, Fish, Monkey, Shame (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
think we talked about this on noize but the captain trip shit is so expensive at this point!
thank you again bureau b!
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
Got the m=minimal reissue of Ballet Statique / Con with the Red Cassette added on, amazing, where has this been all my life?
― phuturephase, Friday, 8 February 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
hey someone in new york go to this and post back
> The Last Weekend at AVA-Generator Saturday & Sunday> > Saturday September 14, 2013> > 12 - 6pm> CONRAD SCHNITZLER> SIX HOUR CASSETTE CONCERT > CONDUCTED BY GEN KEN> Drop by anytime Saturday for a rare opportunity to hear octophonic music composedby one of the foremost masters of electronic music. Schnitzler studied sculpturewith Joseph Beuys before turning his attention to sound. Hear Schnitzler’s musicthe way he wanted his audiences to hear it.> > THE LAST NIGHT AT AVA GENERATOR - Closing Party 8 - 11pm> > 9pm> The Enchantress of Bioluminosity > with live sound by Michael Zodorozny (Crash Course in Science) and Gen Ken Montgomery> +> 10pm> 3D SLIDE SHOW by Lary Seven > 3-D photographs taken at Generator 1989-1990
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link
http://audiovisualarts.org/5973/generator
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link
I went to this! the space was quite small but it was easy to get lost in the layers of sound and it was a real treat to be able to hear this stuff 'mixed' like that. 'gen ken' is a super nice guy too and had some amazing records and related memorabilia out.
I was unfamiliar with what was being played but I did hear some material in a 'symphonic' style I wasn't aware schnitzler had dabbled in. lots of synthesized strings and the playing was fairly busy. sorry if I'm being vague but I only caught bits here and there. would be very grateful if anyone could steer me towards any releases in schnitzler's catalog that might match this description!
― original bgm, Monday, 23 September 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
gelb and grün reissued!
― the late great, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link
i always hear his name in the voice of ned flanders saying 'white wine spritzer'
only listened briefly to the gelb reissue but it sounds really good
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:35 (nine years ago) link
Grun is pretty great if memory serves.
― Temple of Infinite Grohls (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 09:34 (nine years ago) link
damn ballet statique fuckin' slaps
― the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link
not enough talk about Silber itt, that one's staggeringly great as well, some tracks are even melodic in a proto-Chris Carter kinda way. I love Asmus Tietchens liner notes where he plays detective trying to figure out what synth was used
the essential Bureau B reissue CDs have great bonus tracks to boot, some good stuff on the Gelb CD too
― The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e1jboetIMs
Have watched this a bunch of times, but didn't realize it was posted by his official YouTube channel, or that there were dozens of other videos to check out.
― lukas, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link
Couple of Bureau B rereleases happening:
https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/con-84
https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/consequenz-ii
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link