John Frusciante....... C/D?

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This thread inspired me to put on To Record Water for 10 Days and my mood is all the better for it.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

i love the drum machines on that one, upon first listen i was shocked, in a good way. niandra..tshirt is one of my favorite albums of the 1990s. i love this album & and was shocked john lived through his addiction. him and v gallo are supposedd to be working on some sort of project.

kephm, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

"the curtains were made for moving cause you know sometimes you're not always there"
"my smile is a rifle and its pointed at you"

i guess i wish i had an ipod right about now as i do not have the cd handy.

kephm, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
So his new album has been out for a while now, any impressions?

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 10:45 (twenty years ago) link

i like it--even though tortured john doesn't make too many appearances. the songs and productions are strong and it is definitely a logical progression from all his other albums. anyone that has liked him since niandra will enjoy it.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I am really not liking the new onem surprisingly. Maybe it'll grow on me, but right now it just sounds like standard modern-rock fare. Very similar to the recent RHCP stuff.

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:15 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
So, Another new Frusciante disc is out; this one is called "DC EP" and it's 4 songs produced by Ian MacKaye (!) and featuring Jerry Busher of Fugazi/French Toast on drums. It's got some great stuff on it. Put these four tracks with the 5 new ones that are on the Brown Bunny soundtrack and it's a whole nother great album.

I love his lo-fi guitar sound so much; I can listen to his noodling for hours.
See also, this thread:
Ataxia - "Automatic Writing" (Frusciante/Joe Lally-Fugazi collaborate on excellent psyche-out mini-epic)

Taxi Dancing in the Soft Prison (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread, and the recent discovery of the Brown Bunny soundtrack, totally has me in a Frusciante mood. I don't own anything past To Record Water, i'm downloading the Ataxia album - what should I get? How was Shadows Collide w/ People? How many have there been so far in the 'series?'

roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

roger: "shadows.." and "will to death"

both awesome.

i need to hear this DC EP.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

It was $7.98 at Sea Level, which seems reasonable, considering the other discs on that label (Record Collection, which is an offshoot of Warner Bros., right?) seem to have obscenely high retail prices - at Amoeba they seem to go for like $16.98 and stuff.
Anyways, yeah - highly recommended. And I love the continued overlapping between the Chili Peppers and the Dischord scene!

Taxi Dancing in the Soft Prison (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

does anyone else hear a (most likely unintentional) stylistic resemblance to Mark Linkous in some of the more recent songwriting?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 23 September 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

on the website and listening to mp3's (the slides-automatic writing)
songs are getting stronger. his glorious trebly note bended solos persist. i gotta find out which one this is on. the last one i bought was "to record only water".

kephm, Monday, 4 October 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

That song is amazing - that's the one with all the dubby effects on the snare and hi-hat that make it sound like some spacy disco jam. It's on the Ataxia disc. Highly recommended. I never in a million years would have guessed I would become so into Frusciante (having not bought a Chili Peppers disc since "Blood, Sugar" in high school). I can't wait for more.

Taxi Dancing in the Soft Prison (Ben Boyer), Monday, 4 October 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

HE HAS NEW ALBUM COMING OUT OCT 25THish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 4 October 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

sometimes when i am playing guitar, and i stop to listen to a little frusciante for inspiration, i just want to pull off my fingers & chop off my worthless hands

kephm, Monday, 4 October 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

ha ha YOU AND ME BOFE

I have almost given up on playing pretty things and resigned myself to sub David-Byrne-esque twerky strumming.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 4 October 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
He's been pretty quiet lately, huh?
I'm still enjoying 'Will to Death' but I just saw he'd released two since then. I'm tempted to get 'Curtains'. Any opinions?

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Friday, 1 April 2005 09:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Frusciante wrote and played some incredible music for the Jane's Addiction "Gift" soundtrack (I remember something called "Ants"?)...has anybody heard this? Or know how to get a hold of it?

iTunes synergy activate!:

Pussyfootin'the Duke...Comets on Fire
Your Pussy's Glued to a Building On Fire....John Frusciante
Instant Pussy....Matching Mole
Pussy Don't Fail Me Now...Missy Elliot

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

curtains is an all acoustic album. not bad.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Is "Ants" on the cassette version of Niandra Lades...? It's actually listed as one of the songs in his scrawlings in the packaging for it, but it's not on the actual CD.

Vic Funk, Friday, 1 April 2005 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, it's only on the cassette.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Curtains has some electric guitar and synthesizer on it too, but it's very folky and warm. It's EXCELLENT rainy day music.

Sphere In the Heart of Silence, the Frusciante/Josh Klinghoffer colab album, is far different. Way awesome. It's kinda reminiscent of Kid A in it's structure and pacing, but it uses some ancient electronics and is way scratchier sounding. Josh Klinghoffer's singing voice is surprisingly good, too. He sounds kinda like a softer, more effeminate Thom Yorke, which makes a nice foil to John's more weathered voice. The song "Walls" on this album has one of the best vocal performances John Frusciante has or probably will ever lay to a track.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

His recent string of releases, IMHO:

Sphere... (with Josh Klinghoffer) > Curtains > Inside of Emptiness > Automatic Writing (Ataxia) > Will to Death > DC EP

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Exciting! I lost track after Will to Death so it seems it's time to catch up

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
wow. To Record Only Water for Ten Days is beautiful!

The Boy Who Cried YSI? (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

best thing i have discovered in a while.

The Boy Who Cried YSI? (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

C/D? The guy has a song titled Your Pussy Is Glued to A Building on Fire. Obviously classic.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Obviously way more classic than the sock farmers?

The Boy Who Cried YSI? (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

I've been re-dicsovering To Record Only Water for Ten Days these last two weeks what an awesome awesome album...

baaderonixx, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Yup. Need to dig it out again...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

With No One is awesome

Zeno, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

classic

cutty, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha yeah "With No One" is the one I get stuck in my head all the time

baaderonixx, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

classique

update prefs (ice crӕm), Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

saw this dude play last week, it sounded like the royal trux

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Weird; just last week I put all of the 6 Record Collection albums in one playlist and listened to them all for the first time in several years. There are some incredible (and incredibly sad) songs on there. I still have never heard the 2nd Ataxia disc (and I LOVED the first one)... I never see it in shops and it's not on iTunes for some reason (though the other one is). Anyone heard it?

Ben Boyerrr, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://johnfrusciante.com/

cutty, Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

He'll never end up on the John Petrucci thread if he only talks through his lessons.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

ENJOY!!

BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

AWESOME

baaderonixx, Monday, 17 November 2008 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

New album is streaming on Luisterpaal

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I bought it blind from iTunes. It starts off with a great 9 minute instrumental with some awesome guitar stuff, which segues into a pretty cover of "Song for the Siren." Then it sounds a lot like his other albums - vague lyrics (as in platitudes, not surreality); nice chord changes. I need to give it a few more listens, but I'm having a hard time summoning the desire so far. Does anyone else have it/like it?

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

new record is kinda batshit and very good

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

100 percent more amen break on this record vs. other frusciante solo records

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 September 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

without his edgy playing rhcp would lose their last bit of relevance. when he came back for californication - that saved the band.

When he left the 2nd time, it made the band irrelevant again.

Lee626, Saturday, 15 September 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

what's the new one like - after my initial enthusiasm for this guy and the godly 'Water' I kinda drifted away as he seemed more interested in tortured blues rock.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

new one is sort of like a proper follow-up to to record only water for ten days, but way more unhinged. free jazz drumming that morphs into drill n' bass, cheesy synth sounds, almost niandra-esque frusciante vocal stuff over the top

but in more than a few instances the songwriting is very traditionally pretty.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

xp
wow - reading his blog/website, it seems I shouldnt be worried about him getting too trad-rockish:
http://johnfrusciante.com/2012/07/09/my-recent-history/

It's a great read esp the part about training his musical mind to regain control from his musical body - which goes against so many rockist clichés.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

here's probably my favorite track from the record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6nxPH8h5E

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

hmmm might take me a while to get into this...

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

oh, and a new solo ish

http://johnfrusciante.com/article/enclosure

set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Monday, 3 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link

omg thank god i thought he died

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 3 March 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link

is there suppose to be a comma after the "thank god"?

nostormo, Monday, 3 March 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

i guess…I'm glad hes not dead, and that he's got a new record out

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 3 March 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link

lol

nostormo, Monday, 3 March 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

this is such a cool album (shadows)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 May 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

back in RHCP for some ungodly reason

every one of his solo releases has something to recommend it, from what I've heard.

akm, Monday, 16 December 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link

(that EP Outsides that he wrote about up above is really great, for instance)

akm, Monday, 16 December 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

maya, his straight up breakbeat idm record from 2020, is surprisingly very good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 4 April 2022 14:53 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qBDrdZVCpQ

this album was likely ignored bc it was billed as a bunch of experiments in electronic music that preceded and/or weren't considered good enough for the two very manic albums of exploded music frusciante put out in 2012. but uhhh it's fucking incredible?

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 4 April 2022 21:01 (two years ago) link

I was skeptical for the first forty seconds, and then I was sold. Makes me nostalgic for a lot of early/mid '00s idm and breakcore that I used to listen to at the time.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 4 April 2022 21:23 (two years ago) link

the one time i met JF was at a Squarepusher show!

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 01:08 (two years ago) link

Renoise rules (new version out that works on Raspberry Pi!)

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 01:10 (two years ago) link

He was surprisingly inactive in the 2010s compared to the 2000s.. what did he do all this time?

groovemaaan, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 01:15 (two years ago) link

sleep on a pile of money

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link

idk i feel like he released a ton of material in the 2010s, there were just no “five records in a year” kinds of stunts

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 02:07 (two years ago) link

the first trickfinger record is a pretty ok acid/idm record, the follow-up EPs are all pretty awesome and unique though

i had no reason to expect he'd be any good at dance music and feel like maybe i'm grading him on a curve (or, as with justin broadrick, i have such an all-encompassing obsession with his music that i'll even listen to the damaged electro shit no one cares about)... but idk i love it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:52 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPjy2qeabyc

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

Even though I've never spent any real time with his records, I just love that he has equal time & respect for breakbeats & synth-based music as guitar. In that Rick Rubin interview he mentioned spending the last year before rejoining RHCP both doing a deep dive studying and transcribing Charlie Christian's playing and making electronic music.

Obviously it's nice to have the money to just mess around with music all day, but he's clearly a true obsessive and it's rare to find an instrumental prodigy who takes electronic music that seriously.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

very otm

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

Brad, I have mucho mucho respect for you based on the years you have provided insight and enthusiasm for stuff such as RHCP that would be challenging for the average late 40s/early 50s person such as myself, who loved the band 30 years ago but find them in the past 20 to be thematically the Eagles (LA will fuck you up, LA is alluring) in the format of Aerosmith (white bros inspired by black music), i.e. conservative radio rock. And yet here is this guy who this band needs, who when he is in the band provides them with these song structures and melodic elements that are no doubt the key to the success of that radio rock, but on his own nickel does very pure, adventurous music. Why do you think that none of his adventurous inclinations rub off on the band? Do Flea and Anthony not want that? (they posture as if they do)? Or do you think he says "RHCP is where I do easy to digest music, which I like and is part of me." For all the guy talks about Squarepusher or Sparks or Steve Howe or Schoenberg or Stockhausen or free jazz, I wonder why he can't put a bit of that in this band…he claims to do just that, but all comes out as conservative twaddle…not like I want the band to sound like Twin Infinitives, but they— not just him, but all three of them— could do better…

Yesterday the band was on Stern, and I do find them all to be pretty likable people… none of them think that they are toxic bro jocks…

veronica moser, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link

Does he claim to do that? I think he's just a mature musician that he wants to add exactly the right supportive part for their (largely boring, radio rock) songs, rather than squeezing in something jazzy, shreddy, dissonant, or trying to turn them into Radiohead.

I don't know what Flea's excuse his, except that maybe now they have so much experience as an arena band with a huge audience that they know what works on that scale, and save the weird shit for their private time or side projects.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

by the way is 100 percent the record where frusciante’s ambitions guide them, especially across the last 4-5 songs, so it’s not like it’s never happened

i think the very simple answer is the soul of the band is them jamming together, and when they jam together it tends to produce this sound and these kinds of songs. frusciante usually has a few moments per record where he gets to fuck with the formula though, cf. “animal bar” on stadium arcadium, the rubin interview reveals he brought “these are the ways” whole into the ultimate love sessions, and you can certainly tell, etc. etc.

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link

I like that tune "Montreal" off one of the Ataxia collections. It sounds like what PIL with Bob Dylan as lead singer might sound like.

earlnash, Thursday, 7 April 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link

once again i am absolutely obsessed with the will to death

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:23 (two years ago) link

Dunno, as much as I tried, nothing of his ever grabbed me like To Record Water… I guess that one will remain an outlier.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link

it only took eight years but wow i adore enclosure now

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 8 April 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link

the skittery, constantly morphing drum programming is just the right counterpoint for the static yet gorgeous melodies he's singing over it. also even though his focus soon drifted toward making actual idm, i think he was really onto something when he was incorporating his guitar playing in his dance music experiments, especially on this record and "same" from the outsides EP

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 8 April 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link

this'll be a really messy ranking but here we go

to record only water for ten days
enclosure
niandra lades and usually just a tshirt
the empyrean
the will to death
renoise tracks 2009-2011
dc ep
maya
shadows collide with people
pbx funicular intaglio zone / letur-lefr
trickfinger: look down, see us
trickfinger: she smiles because she presses the button
a sphere in the heart of silence
outsides
inside of emptiness
trickfinger ii
foregrow
4-track guitar music
trickfinger

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 8 April 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link

Have to co-sign veronica's sentiment here Brad. Thanks for spending the time with this stuff and sharing thoughts. I know I'm very cynical about this dude's music these days, but there was a time I considered him one of my GOATs. So it's refreshing to be reminded of how I came to revere him so much in the first place. Thanks.

(earlnash also otm RE: Ataxia — that stuff can get pretty wild!)

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Friday, 8 April 2022 15:20 (two years ago) link

as usual i forgot to rank ataxia!!! put both records above maya

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 8 April 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link

That 'Montreal' track has this thing where you got the vocal which has this folky drone and then you got the droning guitar (kinda Keith Levene say in style) and then this repeating bass and drum groove. It's moving but it's got that statis that to me really captures the ever present waiting to get somewhere. I get a visual of a head leaned against a car/bus window while the miles roll on in a totally dead and gray landscape of rain.

"Sold all my records. What a stupid thing to do."

To me, it just captures the emptiness of the quiet times when you have to fight the loop of rumination of your mind turning over failures.

I'm not a huge fan, but I thought this song was pretty killer.

earlnash, Saturday, 9 April 2022 01:56 (two years ago) link

again, maya is soooo good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

^^listening to it now, and Maya is sick. Much more immediately convincing than his other electronic records I've heard. Still has that Aphex/breakcore/IDM tinge, but it's ravier too.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 20 May 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

https://acidtestrecords.bandcamp.com/album/i-i

his most recent release: improvised dark ambient drone. and really good for being his first foray into that realm

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link


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