ya i kinda liked that about it.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link
It didn't seem that long or slow to me, I guess I was "engrossed."
― n/a, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link
the quotation marks suggest you are using that word as a euphemism for something.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link
it's a euphemism for engorged
― Jordan, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Saw this on Tuesday.
too many shots of hands brushing wheat in a field. otherwise pretty good. Casey Affleck does twisted and disturbing rather well.
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 10 January 2008 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link
i think this was my favorite movie i saw in the theater in 2007
― n/a, Thursday, 10 January 2008 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe the most heavy-handed film i saw in the theater in 2007
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 January 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
looking forward to seeing this on dvd in a month
― Jordan, Thursday, 10 January 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i probably ruined it by hyping it, i think the reason i liked it so much was that i went in with few expectations
― n/a, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I loved it, by the end. Not just because of Zooey Deschanel's charming turn.
Andrew Dominik said he was more thinking about Barry Lyndon than Malick when he was making it.
― Alba, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
if only those thoughts translated into anything onscreen.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link
No one saw 3:10 to Yuma? Not much more involving.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Whole less than sum of parts, for me. Great acting, cinematography, music, but it didn't really engage my sympathies or interest and I grew increasingly bored as it went on. And the LOTR III trick of extending what should have been a short coda into a whole extra chapter was especially frustrating.
(xp - i'm talkin about jesse james not 3.10 to yuma)
― ledge, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
i thought the coda was the best part of the movie.
i want to see 3:10 to Yuma, just came out on dvd huh
― n/a, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
And the LOTR III trick of extending what should have been a short coda into a whole extra chapter
This section was drastically shortened from the novel. Since the story is actually about Ford, doesn't really make sense.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, saw it last night. Russell Crowe is quite excellent; so is an unrecognizable Peter Fonda. I was surprised and gratified by the high body count. Mangold is no fun at shooting action sequences: they lack fluidity or continuity. The unsurprising surprise ending is a botch too.
No, I never saw the original.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
(xpost)
you could be right; it was certainly necessary, and provided a refreshing counterpoint - but by that point i felt i'd been there long enough and god would you hurry up and finish already!
Keeping the coda and lopping 1/2 hour of the main movie would have made sense.
― ledge, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link
or just rescreening The King of Comedy
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link
3:10 to Yuma was fun, but it doesn't seem like these movies have much in common besides being westerns? 3:10tY was an actiony trad western w/maybe better acting etc. than it needed.
― Jordan, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link
morbs, do you actually have anything substantive to say about this movie other than that it's "heavy-handed"? i see upthread you use your standard trope of comparing the movie unfavorably to another from 50 years ago that has a vaguely similar theme, which is as retarded an argument as it always is
― n/a, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
I grew increasingly interested as it went on, but there is no reason why it couldn't have been longer - and as you say about the coda is a lot more interesting than its running time suggests. Casey Affleck was terrific I thought, though partially due to looking enough like Ben in places for me to turn against him - making him thoroughly unsympathetic even when I started feeling for him.
Who'd want to be a woman in this picture though! (Clearly filming on the Weeds backlot)
― Pete, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
self xpost, nevermind, who cares
― n/a, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
xxp: yeah, but I don't write long things for ILX for obvious reasons persons. Eat it.
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/movie_review/the-assassination-of-jesse-james-by-the-coward-robert-ford.htm
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
i took the bait :(
― n/a, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
or just read Manohla Dargis, ie, let's turn another psycho killer into Jesus.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 January 2008 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Qu’est ce que c'est?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 January 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Unpopular opinion of the year: Casey was better in Gone Baby Gone.
― Eric H., Sunday, 13 January 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Movie's as pretty as its lead actors, but ultimately hollow.
I second that afflecktion.
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 13 January 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, i don't know about that. there's at least a subtheme about pop culture and mass behavior, though i too am at least skeptical about how much they intended that to get over.
pretty decent movie, though. and i was maybe more impressed by pitt than affleck - where people just surprised that the bro could act?
― banned substance (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
where
i cant believe i didnt post on this thread. i liked this movie a lot....but, and this probably sets me apart from almost every other person ever, i kinda wish there was MORE narration from the ken burns guy and less acting and talking. i like the literary conceit, the sense of someone sitting down and telling you a story.
― ryan, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
don't need a movie for that.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
this is pretty fkn boring tbh
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 15 June 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
is that james carville? wtf.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 15 June 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
The shamelessness with which this movie rips off Malick was infuriating.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 15 June 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I got "interviewed" for a local publication (more of a "complete the sentence" thing) and I said I could watch this repeatedly. What won't make print is that my girlfriend likes to fall asleep with a quiet movie on, and this one has been it for a long time. Not my favorite film, but it's really tranquil, even in the violence, with the exception of the scene where Pitt is railing on that kid for information.
― mh, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
this film is like the cinematic equivalent of that guy phosphorescent - all earnest and croaky and 'old timey'
― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
OTM.
Also, fucking impossible to work out what anyone was saying half the time.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, June 15, 2009 5:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I'm not sure in what universe ripping off Terrence Malick is a bad thing.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
no? how about just mangling his tropes?
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
his tropes? i suppose they're both about societyazzawhole, but one's just about celebrity and the other's about life, the universe and everything, no?
― Fidel Gastro (gabbneb), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
ya what tropes and mangled how?
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i wasn't NUTS about this movie but i kinda got into its slow groove
i like the narration too.
― Kerm, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
"Trope" doesn't mean what people think it means.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link
it means testicles
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I loved this movie on first viewing, though I think it just caught me right when I was in the perfect mood for it. I watched it again with my wife and didn't love it quite as much but would still consider it one of my faves for 2007.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
is it as dull as dead man?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/20/movies/killing-them-softly.html
^p intersting re: sound fx...f/ sounds of norman mailer punching himself apparently
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
the director's name isnt even in the fucking thread title
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
i watched 'chopper' this morning - did v little for me; reminded me of 'bronson', which obv 'chopper' came 1st, but that is prob a better movie in every way i can think of
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
choppers better/less boring
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I've always conflated Chopper and Bronson as well, but prefer the former.
― Simon H., Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
does not compute in the slightest but w/e
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
i talked this up enough that my 62 yr old mom is curious enough to go see it (and im shocked its still playing near her)
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
also im ttly taking out like 4 george v higgins books from my lib over the holidays
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
Eddie Coyle if you haven't already
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
only have seen the film, which is great obv
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
My friend and I thought Killing Them Softly was worth watching, if a little sketchy in its construction. The constant political dialogue was definitely trying to drill in the parallel between criminal economies but it was a little overwrought in that it was mostly an extended implication without really fleshing it out.
It was great to be at a film where people were grumbling about "next time /I/ get to pick the movie, blah blah" on the way out. Hadn't heard that in a while/
― mh, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
political notes the most interesting thing about KMS.
(also from all the Dem whining you'd think they were pissing while the W clips were on)
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link
Gandolfini much less interesting here than in the Chase rock movie, so yeah I'll probably never watch The Sopranos.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link
Scoot McNairy giving one of the performances of the year was the most interesting thing about KMS. The second-most interesting thing was the notion that you would, indeed, bend over backward to side with Armond.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
but I haven't, as he claims to think it was a very good film.
certainly no Cabin in the Woods
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
KTS btw, KMS will be the Roberta Flack biopic
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
Scoot's versatility will be put to the test in that one.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link
what's with the Scoot hard-on? he was fine, but it's an awfully familiar character type and he's no Elisha Cook Jr.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 11:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/28/business/media/a-fans-mission-resurrect-a-little-watched-movie.html?_r=0
― johnny crunch, Monday, 28 October 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link
Rad. I love this movie.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
Garret Dillahunt's career shift from stuff like this and "Deadwood" to being the dad in "Raising Hope" is still so weird to me.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/terrence-malick-thought-it-was-too-slow-10-things-learned-from-the-revival-screening-of-the-assassination-of-jesse-james-by-the-coward-robert-ford-20131209?
interesting that he sez hes making 'Blonde' next from JCOs novel -- he tried to make it back a few yrs ago -http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/05/andrew-dominik-returns-with-marilyn.html
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link
dominik sounds cool
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
Anyway, Dominik took the opportunity to say, bluntly, that he is “embarrassed by the stylization in 'Killing Them Softly.'”
otm
― Number None, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
He should be embarrassed by some of the the stylization in this one too.
“Have you seen 'Bonnie & Clyde' lately?” Dominik interrupted, scrunching his face in disapproval. “Has some good editing in the end, I suppose...“
lol f u
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
bonnie & clyde sucks, hes right
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
only if you insist on long, subdued, and nearly action-free
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
my friend went to this, said dominik came across as a dick.
― akm, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link
johnny crunch and hungry4ass otm re: killing them softly. i did actually worry when 'heroin' came on the soundtrack and also i thought 'the man comes around' was a dreadful choice for pitt's intro song (i think dominik's music library must consist entirely of other movie trailer songs) but overall it was a strong movie imo.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 27 December 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link
dominik is finally getting blonde off the ground, naturally for netflix
https://thefilmstage.com/news/andrew-dominik-begins-production-on-marilyn-monroe-biopic-blonde-as-full-cast-is-announced/
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link
Based on JCO book?
― The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:42 (four years ago) link
yessir
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link
"my friend went to this, said dominik came across as a dick.
― akm"
weird, I have no recollection of writing this or who this person may have been.
― akm, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link
The Character Assassination of Andrew Dominik by the Coward akm
― Simon H., Tuesday, 10 September 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link
Killing Them Softly seems to have been getting some defense lately from people who don't want to be on the wrong side of the film's thuddingly obvious politics, so I finally watched it. I had put it off because I didn't want it to diminish my estimation of the source material, Cogan's Trade, which I consider a masterpiece of lowlife dialogue. I'm afraid it's so bad it might have done just that. I feel bad for ever criticizing Nicolas Winding-Refn or Zack Snyder for ever having some crass and dumb ideas because Dominik belongs in movie jail. Plenty of people have mocked the ubiquitous C-SPAN footage and the moronic music cues, but ripping off the use of "Love Letters" from Blue Velvet is particularly annoying.
I will say Ben Mendelsohn is great playing an all-time disgusting loser. James Gandolfini gave his character an even more sinister dimension than I remember him having in the novel. He used to complain about what a toll playing a dark character like Tony Soprano took on him, this role might have finished him off.
― Chris L, Saturday, 13 March 2021 11:54 (three years ago) link
https://nypost.com/2022/02/11/marilyn-monroe-biopic-director-says-movie-will-be-nc-17-rated/
“It’s a demanding movie,” Dominik said. “If the audience doesn’t like it, that’s the f–king audience’s problem. It’s not running for public office.”
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 13 February 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link