best one i ever saw was a seven rip-off with christopher lambert about a guy who's assembling a real life crucifix from body parts of hobos
hahaha okay this sounds really funny
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
it was REALLY funny and REALLY gross!!
― and what, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
What was the one with Lou Diamond Philips coming back from the dead? That was pretty terrible. I guess we're not talking about supernatural horror though.
― Oilyrags, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry Morbz - this was inspired by watching se7en last night (I'd never seen it in its entirety before and felt that after Zodiac I should give early Fincher another go but ... ugh, Kevin Spacey)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.filmscoop.net/locandine/maniaccop3.jpg me & my friend couldnt even get through an hour of this
― and what, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
96. From Hell
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
95. The Bone Collector
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
94. Kiss the Girls
93. Identity
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
92. Serial Mom
91. Kalifornia
I was debating putting From Hell on here given the source material but the movie really does fit the bill
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Can't forget sequels or prequels:
90. Saw II 89. Saw III 88. Hannibal 87. Red Dragon 86. Manhunter
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
OHMIGOD HOW COULD I FORGET:
85. The Cell
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link
That really should be #1. What an awful film that was.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know what this means... I'm referring to movies wherein serial killers are presented as superhumanly intelligent and attentive to details, while also being violently psychopathic and remarkably skillful at psychological manipulation. They are also usually very "cool" and calm and collected.
UH THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW THEY BECOME "SERIAL KILLERS" INSTEAD OF "DUMBASS WHO GOT CAUGHT KILLING A DUDE."
― John Justen, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Uh no. It's mostly because the police aren't very good at catching perpetrators of motive-less crimes.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
oh man the Cell
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
84. Exorcist III 83. The Watcher 82. Eye See You
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
"The Cell" was not in any way, shape or form awesome, yet I still really, really enjoyed it.
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
81. The January Man
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
80. The Hitcher
― Brent, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
79. May
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
78. Dirty Harry 77. House Of 1000 Corpses
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
God, I love stupid movies about ridiculously improbable serial killers.
Serial Mom is stupidly good obv btw, but it's still stupid and improbable. It's also easily the best movie listed so far.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
76. Sin City
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
75. Zodiac
74. Batman
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
73. Masscre At Central High
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
72. Scoop 71. Match Point
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
70. Natural Born Killers
I think this is disqualifiable for a number of reasons (as is American Psycho - surprised no one's dropped that one yet)
also wtf Match Point is not about a serial killer?!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
69. So I Married An Axe Murderer
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
hahaha
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
69. The Frighteners
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
68. Basic Instinct 67. Basic Instinct 2 66. Jade
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
the frighteners is awes
― kenan, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
the fey dude had a body count of three in Match Point right? Certainly meets improbable and stupid standards.
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Why is Zodiac disqualifiable?
― John Justen, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
(xxpost)I can see how everything Jackson's made since would make you say that, but no it's not.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Errr... Manhunter?
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
"Why is Zodiac disqualifiable?"
Because it wasn't ridiculously improbable.
"Errr... Manhunter?"
Is mediocre.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
is "guy sends wacky puzzles after every killing" any less improbable than "cannibal psychiatrist"?
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
65. Halloween 64. Halloween 2 63. Halloween 4 62. Halloween 5 61. Halloween 6 60. Hallowen H20 59. Halloween: Resurrection 58. Halloween (2007)
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I really like all the Hannibal Lecter movies except for "Hannibal", and that one is still kind of "wow that is so retarded it's amazing".
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
(I stand with 'All serial killers are ridiculously improbable, including the real ones.')
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
57. Crawlspace
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
You could show me documentary footage of a woman giving birth to an adult midget and the scene where Hannibal pops the top on Ray Liotta would still top that shit.
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
slasher subgenre is discussed upthread as being something of a different animal
― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link
All serial killers are ridiculously improbable, including the real ones
does this include straight-up slasher movies?
taking the above into account, no. It also rules out most serial killer movies about actual real-life serial killers, who usually are more pathetic and dysfunctional than superhuman.
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, September 7, 2007 8:51 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link
ya and it sucked too!
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 9 February 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
-25. the devils rejects -26. whats eating gilbert grape -27. zodiac
― sadie8707, Saturday, 9 February 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
-28. the first power
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
-29. shocker
(how the fuck did this get this far w/o mention of)
-30. the stepfather (& sequels)
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
lol the first power
I kind of love that movie.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I spent all of October talking about how I wanted to watch -25. the devils rejects but then I forgot about it and still haven't seen it.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
xp - jeff kober: ridiculously improbable tho his character may have been, u gotta admit that dude looks like a serial killing mf
http://content7.flixster.com/photo/48/42/27/4842277_gal.jpg
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
E, your reaction to TDR should correspond how well you enjoy 70s-era exploitation horror & the strength of your tolerance for (often comically ott, but still potentially upsetting) sadism & gore. you have been warned!
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm pretty OK with all of those things tbh which is why I really want to see it.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Plus it's supposed to be much better than his first, right?
once again you prove to be a woman after my own heart!
*sigh*
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
house of 1000 corpses? supposed to be pretty dud, so I've actually never seen it.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
so yeah, TDR is just fine as a standalone narrative (if, by narrative, u mean cavalcade of violence & grotesquery)
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Loosely based on a real guy, although he only killed the one family.
It strikes me that, among real-life dudes, the BTK and Green River killers were almost as ludicrous as any of these fictional guys. They got away with that shit for a loooooong time. Also the Zodiac, obvs.
― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Have there been movies about the Green River Killer? I'm sort of obsessed with that story.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, December 21, 2010 3:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
Yeah, I need to see it. Also want to see it for the final "Freebird" scene which I hear is pretty epic.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
although he only killed the one family. - thus not engaging in the ridiculously improbable repeat activity of marrying, mudering, remarrying, murdering etc.
pretty sure this was borrowed (stolen) pretty blatantly from Night of the Hunter, now that I think about it.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
he BTK and Green River killers were almost as ludicrous as any of these fictional guys.
yeah, even the most shameless & exploitative of directors wouldn't go near the sort of irl behavior exemplified by someone like Albert Fish, for example (at least I hope not..) - unless it were done as something like a "true crime" police procedural, like Citizen X (about an equally reprehensible soviet-era russian sk).
Personally, I can indulge in the ott fictional stuff all day, but anything having to do with the irl guys just leaves me feeling terrible about humanity, empty inside, nauseous etc. Similarly, I'll gladly take in something absurdly bloody & pus-filled like Martyrs, but try to get me to watch an irl surgery or something & I'll probably faint.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
The guy in Night of the Hunter only kills one family too. Technically he only kills Shelly Winters (the kids get away!)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
I think they made two movies recently about Fish, weirdly enough.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Finding Nemo and Piranha 3D
― thermite art (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I like the less fantastical serial killer movies myself. One of the things I like about Zodiac and Memories of Murder is that both movies make it pretty clear that the main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses, it's that the police are poorly equipped to catch people who commit serial murders.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Loved se7en, especially the cinematography, twas ruined by pitts overacting at the end.
is there a thread on pretty looking films/great cinematography type of thread discussions on one of the threads?
― not_goodwin, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Twin Peaks season 2 episodes with windom earl
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
One of the things I like about Zodiac and Memories of Murder is that both movies make it pretty clear that the main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses, it's that the police are poorly equipped to catch people who commit serial murders.
I agree -- most irl serial killers are more likely to be of low or average intelligence, they aren't criminal masterminds.
― THX THO... (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
he main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses - gotta admit that those dudes are p interesting, but most sks are just sadistic perverts who get away with it as long as they do b/c of the randomness of their crimes.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
lol xp - we seem to have a p fundamental disagreement here.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
o wait, never mind. that is what I get for scanning posts too quickly
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Ebert FUCKING LOVES (er, loved) The Cell
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-cell-2000
― écorché (S-), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 04:45 (eight years ago) link
deeply bad last graf there
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/se7en-screenwriter-how-a-mixup-david-fincher-led-gutsy-ending-963957
Screenwriter Andrew Kevin Walker was working at Tower Records in New York when he wrote Seven, which was optioned in the early 90s with Christmas Vacation director Jeremiah Chechik coming on board to direct. Chechik wanted to make a very different movie. Among the changes Chechik requested from Walker was one to alter that inventive ending. There was to be no head in a box.
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 15 January 2017 05:30 (seven years ago) link
-31. Zodiac
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 15 January 2017 06:03 (seven years ago) link
God what's that fucking movie with Annabella Sciorra where Alan Alda turns out to be the psycho murderer? Was he serial in that?
― Jon Lewis, Friday, September 7, 2007 5:28 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"The West Wing"?
― HI DERE, Friday, September 7, 2007 5:28 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink