Dan Savage column on liberals/gay/fundamentalists

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Interestingly, (for me at least), 'Bush Baptist' used be a phrase for a person who affects religious conviction for dishonest purposes.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 14 November 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I see what Geoff's saying - a lot of people are INCREDIBLY disappointed in Bill Clinton's advice to Kerry to run against civil unions/gay marriage in the last days of the campaign (Kerry told Bill Clinton NO WAY JOSE and earned another 5000 brownie points from mme).

suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:23 (nineteen years ago) link

That's interesting, thanks Gear. I'm kind of stunned by the proportion of gay voters who chose Bush

I think the statistic he uses is for people that self identified as either gay or bisexual. I wouldn't hazard any guesses as to what, if anything, that might mean.

I think a lot of people -- not just gays but working class/middle class americans too -- vote republican even when it seems to be self-defeating because they percieve the GOP as the party of aspirations, of economic striving. (Of course it's actually the EXCLUSIVE party of the already-rich.)

Yes, people vote for the GOP in part because it is 'the party of aspirations' and all that, but then, and I seem to come across this all the time, the rest of it (the parenthetical) makes a leap into hyperbolic Carvile talking points. The Republican party has just as man factions as the Democratic party. Its the same type of thinking that leads people to see the election as decided solely by the 'moral values' of FundaMentalist Christians. I always expect liberals to be reasonable and to not see things in black and white (in fact, consciously avoiding such a thing) and sometimes I am dissapointed.

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 15 November 2004 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link

nb i am a dan savage fan and not a republican fan

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 15 November 2004 09:03 (nineteen years ago) link


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