Cars: Search & Destroy

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cars suck almost as much as decaf

Geoff, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

1.) I have a really old (1987) Saab, rose quartz color, which is grey but pinkish in the sun. The upholstery and dash have been replaced, and it's in good condition.

2.) Aw, the car I own is my ideal ride, it's paid for, has a hatchback so I can lug a lot of crap with me if I need too, and is dependable.

3.) Don't have a favorite car movie...only learned to drive when I was 25, I had to for work. Growing up in NY, I didn't need a car.

Lesley Higgins, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

1.) I have a really old (1987) Saab, rose quartz color, which is grey but pinkish in the sun. The upholstery and dash have been replaced, and it's in good condition.

2.) Aw, the car I own is my ideal ride, it's paid for, has a hatchback so I can lug a lot of crap with me if I need to, and is dependable.

3.) Don't have a favorite car movie...only learned to drive when I was 25, I had to for work. Growing up in NY, I didn't need a car.

Lesley Higgins, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

whoops, sorry.

Lesley Higgins, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ka = sistah's, but i own one-tenth

mark s, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

1/ 1989 Saab 900s 2/ Tatra T87 3/ "Wrong arm of the Law" ('60's peter sellers cop caper movie w/loads of old Wolseleys

Norman Phay, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

1) 1998 Jetta V-6 2) Ferrari F355 Spider 3) The Fast and the Furious

Kris, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
search -

http://www.compucars.co.uk/carpics/Lg15673-01.jpg

Destroy -

everything else.

hmmm, Thursday, 19 February 2004 11:38 (twenty years ago) link

Not suitable for work, but this is the first picture that comes up when you image google for citroen

http://www.manaszk.it.pl/zarty/citroen.jpg

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

Blimey!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 19 February 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

I was looking for this
http://nerv.org.uk/photos/cars/citroen.jpg

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah that's what they all say Madchen! ;-)

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 19 February 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link

hmmmm, there are 2 of those in my neighborhood, and i was always tempted to leave a note on their windshield saying 'i really love your car. do you want to be my friend?'

because it's true.

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 19 February 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
I am thinking of buying a chevy malibu, they've redone them for 2004. This will be my first new car if I can get up the nerve to spend that kind of jack.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, in that class I'd look at spending a little more on a VW Passat GL or GLS, or a Nissan Altima which I had as a rental. I'd think you'd want to look at a Honda Accord too...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

FIrst two albums were great, but they were largely crap after Candy-O.

Oh bahahaha.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I am distrustful of American automobiles. They are too expensive for what you get in most cases because of grossly inflated manufacturing costs.

If you buy a VW be aware the the total cost of ownership is higher than almost any other car except a Saab or some such. The warranty is for shit and you WILL get fucked in the ass by the dealership the minute anything goes wrong.

I would totally support getting a Nissan or Honda at this point, I've also heard that Hyundai has turned itself into quite the success story re: features & reliability for the money.

I think that unless you ABSOLUTELY want the latest model it's better to go with used. I am rapidly becoming acquainted with the fact that your purchase loses (at least) a third of its value as soon as you drive it off the lot, resale-wise.

TOMBOT, Friday, 28 May 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

1) I drive a black 2003 Chrysler Sebring Coupe. I wanted a couple with a big backseat that folded so I could carry people and stuff, but (ahem) in style. Anyways it now has 35K miles in 15 months of ownership oh my! But no problems so far ...

2) I guess if someone were going to up and give me a car it would be a Mercedes CL600. I saw one at the autoshow and it was gorgeous, I was filled with lust. Though looking it up right now it doesn't offer a manual transmission and my car needs a stick! I'd pick a BMW 645Ci instead but the idrive scares me ...

3) The car chase in 52 Pick-Up is quite exciting.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

As cool looking as the J Mays-designed retroFords are, I would avoid American cars and trucks across the board.

What happens when a Mini Cooper and a Ford F-150 meet a fixed object (hint: the "F" stands for "fatality")

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 29 May 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd love a mini but I have the GM family discount which means I automatically receive at least 12% of MSRP on top of any other rebates. It makes it kind of hard to look at anything else.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 29 May 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, the cars certainly lost a great deal of their resale value.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002GWB.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Skottie, Sunday, 30 May 2004 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm looking at cars right now.

What I should get is a Civic Hybrid or a Prius.

What I want is a bright red brand new Ford F150. Ten miles to the gallon SUCKAZ.

adam (adam), Sunday, 30 May 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The Prius is WAY better than the Civic Hybrid. Both underperform on mileage (versus stated), but the Prius does better (it's also pretty cool inside). Be prepared to wait several months from the time you order it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

search or destroy:

http://195.96.170.31/covers/r/ric_ocasek/group.jpg

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 30 May 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
I don't have any money, but I would nevertheless like to decide which car to pin my affections on, for future reference.

It must be cute. Small. The color should be perhaps be red. With a cream interior? Leather?

So . . .

http://www.jkoons3.com/graphics/Jetta-2.jpg

or

http://aerorentacar.com/images/bug.jpg

?

Other options, Mini Cooper, Toyota Corrolla (not the same cuteness factor, but drove as a rental car and liked it).

One problem is that I'm not that fond of the "new" Jetta.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

The "new" Jetta is terrible. It looks too much like a bland Toyota.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I drove a Toyota Matrix (corolla +1) today and liked it all right. I wouldn't get another volkswagen, personally.
http://mx.news1.yimg.com/mx.img2.yahoo.com/espanol/autos/matrix8-385.jpg

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Mary: Get a Zipcar membership, you can try out all of them! There's no monthly charge, just the application fee and then you pay as you go.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I have driven the Prius, the Scion xA, and the Matrix so far. I think the Scion wins out of that bunch though the Matrix appeared to have better acceleration. The Prius does get lovely mileage but fuck that dashboard layout, thoroughly annoying. And FWIW I've also driven a Jetta and owned a Beetle and the Jetta kicks the Beetle out of the stadium in all categories save roundness (and apparently "safety" but oh wtfever)

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I just looked at the New Jetta colors--they are so drab and they don't even offer red. So there is no way I am getting a New Jetta. I don't like how the New Jetta is more rounded and sedan like, I like the boxy Old Jetta.

I thought the Beetle would be a lot chepaer than the Jetta, bc: tiny, 2 doors, twee, but the standard package is just like 1,500 cheaper than a Jetta. Why?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a vague hankering for another "classic" SAAB 900, argh begone.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

the Beetle is what's referred to as a "Boutique" car, eg they know you ain't buying it out of pragmatism or you'd just get a golf or a jetta. The thing IS a golf for the most part, just with an Xtreme Makeover applied and the $$$ to match.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

destroy all cars

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

no

also, that matrix thing is fugly

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Personally I think if I ever actually purchase an automobile again it will either be some kind of scarily pragmatic asian jobbie like I pictured above, or a Lotus Exige:
http://www.fast-autos.net/lotus/05exige.jpg

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

If I got a Mini Cooper I could get red with white roof-- so mod.

http://images.speurders.nl/images/44/4443/4443638_1_detail.jpg

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.gov.mb.ca/educate/studentjobs/images/toycar.jpg

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I currently drive an '03 Jetta (silver) which I love I had a very slick Audi A4 back during dot-com mania, but the payments and *insurance* were killing me. The new Jetta exterior is terrible and makes it look like it's trying to be a corolla, which is a nice enough car, but why do this to the Jetta?!

I'm thinking about another A4 in black this time next year, maybe two or three years old as the new one's (with the full "Auto Union" style grill) aren't really that special to me. I'm also considering the Prius and the Toureg (but only because the interior is so beautiful).

While the new Jetta's styling is a mis-step, the upcomig Passat is beautiful!

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/001__scaled_600_047.jpg

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/002__scaled_600_044.jpg

My ideal ride is probably an Audi A8L or S8, or an early seventies Charger or Challenger. I agree with Toraneko upthread about F1, but I also love Le Mans.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also a great place to car watch: http://www.montereyhistoric.com/

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

the talk a bit upthread sounds like deciding what clothes to buy by how they taste.

()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I still want that Aston Martin DB4 though...

http://www.byways.com.au/aston/db4.jpg

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link

How do you guys get away with black cars in SoCal? I drove through there once in the Beetle (late July) and could see the air off my hood trying to make mirages.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

forgot about my other ideal car: gull-wing 300 SL

http://www.autoreview.ru/new_site/year2001/n20/mercedes/mb_21a.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost, it's not that bad, I actually kind of like the sting of too hot leather seats/steering wheel. The only tough part is keeping them clean!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Why is the Golf relatively cheap?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer we did alright by the rain for the past few months, but now its back to washing the bitches every couple weeks again.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

the Camry Solara...

ihttp://www.autoextremist.com/NAIAS2005/Toyota/CamrySolara.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

What are the rules of thumb for buying a used car? Do you go to a reputable dealer, or just buy from some one on Craigslist?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

xxxpost, haha! I love the 3 minute self washes, I have it down to a science!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

No advice for me? I put it on Craigslist for a little under what I think it's worth--waiting to see if anything happens.

Virginia Plain, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Can you take it back to the repair shop and say "hey, you missed the frame damage"? Do they have a frame machine that could straighten it out?

Rock Hardy, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I just checked my report from the repair shop, and they do list "frame work" as one (of many) of the repairs. The frame is apparently fixed, but now the car is tainted and its value considerably reduced.

Virginia Plain, Friday, 28 September 2007 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

We drive one of these, but black and three door rather than five:

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop-460x345/micra40_ew.jpg

It's alright; economical, nippy, easy to park, comfortable, etc., but not very exciting. I'm not really into exciting, though.

This is my dream 'normal' car, I think:

http://www.analogstereo.com/images/om/volkswagen_polo.jpg

Can't really afford /justify one now, but in a couple of years we'd love to get one. It just seems like the perfect small car, the platonic essence of small carness. I always think when I see one "why would you want to drive anything else?" Apart from maybe, if money was even less of an object (ditto practicality):

http://www.autobytel.com/images/2007/Volkswagen/EOS_Staff/400/07_VW_EOS_07.jpg

If money was no object, though...

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

The best car in the universe is the Mach 6 by Racer Motors:

http://blogs.cars.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/14/mach5500.jpg

It's powered by a Bernoulli engine.

felicity, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoops. That's the Mach 5.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/images/2008/04/17/sr1864660.jpg

felicity, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i want a smart car or a mini. or a fiat!

get bent, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.classicaldrives.com/50226711/new_fiat500.jpg

get bent, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

car sharing, people

NB - i am an employee of a chicagoland car sharing company

gbx, Monday, 2 June 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i'd look pretty silly driving an element, so i guess i would like a 1986 accord or, especially if road noise is a problem, a 1988 legend

gabbneb, Monday, 2 June 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I drive past a '75 or '76 BMW 2002 every day and I swear that if it ever goes up for sale...

It looks kinda like this:

http://www.theresearchsource.net/images/2002.h3.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I had a 1990 V6 Legend for a long time. My Acura mechanic drives a 1988 Legend.

The Legend was one of the best cars ever built IMO. I drive a newer Acura but I think the Legend was better. If you can find one that's never been in a major collision you should get one.

felicity, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I drove an Oldsmobile Alero (2001) for 6 years without a problem, then it just DIED. No little, fixable problem, it needed a new everything, which would have cost more than the car was worth. Now I drive a Mini Cooper S, and it's the bestest ever. You can fit a lot more than you'd think inside, and it's fast and fuel efficient.

miryam, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I can fix a lot of things but when the electrical harness starts to go, you're car's telling you it's about to break your heart.

felicity, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

2002s are great. chris what do you think of that new BMW 1-series, it's got a major 2002 throwback thing going on.

haitch, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

if i actually bought a car, in the absence of knowledge of any kind, i'm kinda guessing i would put branding aside and get an un-sporty camry or toyota hybrid. the one brand i would D is mercedes.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

felicity i will challenge your mach 6 with the mazda furai:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mazdafuraiconceptmazdafurai04500img.thumbnail.jpg

haitch, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

S/D of cars we use; my main criteria here, tbh, is the ease with which I can transport a bike in the back, which is basically what i do all day. mega bonus points for not having to take the wheel off.

Search:

* Priuses: "cool," nice control layout, surprisingly peppy, very capacious (seats fold FLAT, bike goes in whole!), MPG, good visibility when you back up and stuff, easy to estimate where the snub nose is at any given time, ditto the rear bumper: there's basically a window right there
* Honda Fits: tiny on the outside, massive on the inside. like, hueg. once again, there is a very clever folding system that allows the seats to lie totally flat on the inside. boxy shape means you can fit a ton of shit inside. guaranteed that most of my band's equipment (minus drums) could manage. sporty shifting, if you're into that.
* Toyota Matrix: like the Fit, but bigger and faster. again, seats fold flat (no wheels off) AND they are lined with plastic on the back, so you don't have to worry about fucking up the seats. beefier than the Fits

D:

* Hybrid Honda Civic. Fuck this piece of shit. Terrible pickup, long snout is hard to judge, and AND AND the lot we've got DONT LET YOU FOLD DOWN THE BACKSEAT. <---- WTF. Moreover, the trunk is fucking tiny (smaller than the standard model, don't ask me why), which means that a bike cannot fit unless I take off all the wheels. so i say fuck it, and throw the bitch in the backseat, which means you sit on bike grease when i'm done.

* Honda Element. Spacious, yeah, but only if you hang up the rear seats, which is onerous in comparison to the way cars do it, AND it obliterates most of your rear visibility. they've fallen apart more quickly than anything else, and the low end models are all kind of plasticky.

gbx, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

2002s are great. chris what do you think of that new BMW 1-series, it's got a major 2002 throwback thing going on.

I like the 1-series a lot. I finally got to see one last week and it's much better looking in person than the foreshortened weirdo in the photographs. The 135i basically makes the 335i (if not the entire 3-series outside of the M3) irrelevant unless you absolutely have to have four doors and if that's the case, I'd opt for a Mercedes C300 with the six-speed. The big downside is that the 1-series is still freaking expensive, especially after factoring in insurance and servicing costs. Wait a couple years and I'm sure there will be sufficient quantities of low-mileage ones sitting in the pre-owned lot.

I gotta admit though, the turbo Volvo C30 is a potentially good alternate (a Volvo!?). You're either on board with the looks or not (I like the look) but the ride is much nicer than the Mini or with a lot more usable space.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Oooh, concept.
The Furai sounds sensational at full cry. As we exited Turn 11 onto the main straight with the sound of the rotary exhaust reverberating off the concrete pit wall, the effect was not of a lone car, but instead an entire field of endurance racers. With the Furai, Mazda is suggesting that this aural deception will soon become a reality as it moves to join Acura and Porsche in an assault on the 24 Hours of Le Mans.

haitch, since the Mach 6 has never touched the asphalt of a real course, I graciously concede.

felicity, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I drive past a '75 or '76 BMW 2002 every day and I swear that if it ever goes up for sale...

love those cars.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

This is my car, only with four doors:

http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/06.least.expensive.cars.to.insure/06.vw.gti.500.jpg

Pros:
- AN AWESOME CAR TO DRIVE - quick, fast, awesome handling
- Love the way it looks
- Surprisingly spacious
- Pretty good gas mileage for a sport tuned car (Over 30 on the highway)

Cons:
- Low-profile rims seem to not get along with pot holes AT ALL. I've had to replace two tires already in order to avoid potential blow-outs.
- Premium fuel be expensive, yo. This is somewhat mitigated by the good gas mileage.

I would buy it again, but might consider the not-so-low pro rims.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 3 June 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

So anyway the Concours d'Elegance is just around the corner again and once again I'm going home to Carmel for a few days here -- not really for the cars but since other family always visit around that time it's good for a reunion.

And like last year, I'll take photos galore -- here's that 2007 set again. A couple of my favorites:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/1192838309_de2dab4f2e.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1300/1192584593_64ad92487c.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1322/1193419974_6f7eb34cc5.jpg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link

NY Times story on the auction market, news of new auctions planned via the LA Times, etc. etc.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

But what I want to know is 1) what's your ride, 2) what's your ideal ride, and 3) ...um... your favorite car movie. Yeah, that's the ticket.

1) Saab 9-3, bitches
2) 80's convertible Saab 900
3) Can't think of any

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 08:44 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

And also with early to mid 90s lexus SCs, which I think have something in common with the ferraris

http://autodata.ibsrv.net/images/?IMG=U4LEGEA4.jpg&WIDTH=425

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 28 January 2011 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Have you seen 'Electroma'? The 400 is aka the Daft Punk car now.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 28 January 2011 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i used 2 have those micro machines i think

Lamp, Friday, 28 January 2011 07:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Electroma is actually where I first saw and liked the car, so yeah. Unoriginal of me I guess.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Totally original! Have been trying to find this one picture I recall of a red one, shot from the rear, in front of a modern house.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

six years pass...

Maybe it's just the adjustment, but I had to take a rental for a few days and it's a Honda Fit and so far I fucking HATE driving this thing. Weird ass hatchback rear view, strange shape, handles weird, cannot get my spatial bearings whatsoever, driver seat sits uncomfortably. I feel like this thing was just invented to convince people to pay for the more expensive rental next time. I want my bougie accord back.

two years pass...

Should I buy a used Honda CR-V, a used Subaru Forester, or option C ___?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 1 August 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

C = used 1994 Volvo 240 with 250,000 miles, Vermont plates, and dancing bear bumper sticker.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Sunday, 2 August 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

ime subarus and hondas are both reliable vehicles, but I'd give the edge to subarus

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 2 August 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link


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