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Sriracha comes second only to encona

Ed (dali), Saturday, 12 July 2003 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

http://store4.yimg.com/I/hotsaucecatalog_1742_701163

this stuff immediately sprang to mind. it's a bit salsa-ish, so i'm not sure if it counts.

i love the flavor of chipotle stuff too.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 12 July 2003 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

I do not dig chipotle. Smoky taste. .nah.

Best jarred salsa: Joe T. Garcias. Yum.

That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 12 July 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

No mention of Tapatio makes me sad. Tapatio is crazy cheap and tastes good on everything. If there isn't a bottle 32 oz of Tapatio on the kitchen table, it isn't home.

I also have a bottle of El Yucateco Habanero Green and Huy Fung Sriracha Hot Chili Sauce that get used pretty frequently. Don't understand those who go for the vinegary sauces. The taste overpowers everything else. I only like that stuff on eggs, and I will usually use Cholua Hot Sauce, which has the vinegar flavor but doesn't make everything taste like vinegar.

fffv (fffv), Saturday, 12 July 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

Yes Cholua also rocks. can't believe I forgot that one.. .

That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 12 July 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

The tricks to vinegar sauces are:

a) buy the ones which aren't thickened with things like xanthan gum, so that when you use them on anything wet, or as an ingredient in a sauce or marinade (Tabasco makes an excellent marinade for ribs or lamb, and is a good ingredient in a heavily-flavored brine for chicken or ham), the flavor blends in more and the vinegar dilutes.

b) if you want lots of heat and don't want lots of vinegar flavor, go with habanero (the one problem here is that there are very few habanero sauces on the market which don't combine the habanero with various other ingredients, so unlike with Tabasco proper, you aren't getting a pure pepper flavor).

c) even given a and b, if you like and are accustomed to vinegary flavors, you're gonna like vinegar sauces more than otherwise; vinegar is one of those flavors like cilantro, chile heat, and red wine, where if you're not used to it it stands out more sharply.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 12 July 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

Have I ever posted my recipe for vinegar chicken? I doubt I have, I don't think I've posted any of my recipes. It's the best thing I make except for my fake coq au vin.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 12 July 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

Anything made with scotch bonnet peppers...

cybele (cybele), Saturday, 12 July 2003 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

I can't belive no one has mentioned Sylvia's Kickin' Hot Sauce. A favorite with the soul food cooks. Tony's Creole Seasoning is friggin' awesome as well. (in a hushed voice) someone seems to have had a horrible encounter with xanthan gum...best not to mention it around him..;]

django (django), Saturday, 12 July 2003 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, that came up a lot, didn't it? :) It's just one of those additives that's so common since the hot sauce boom, because it makes for quicker sauce preparation and market entry...

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 12 July 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not sure if it's in Sylvia's...I don't think so. I'm not going to look though, i'd rather just keep the fantasy alive. Although it's hard to miss that texture. ech!

django (django), Saturday, 12 July 2003 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

Pico Pica!

estela (estela), Saturday, 12 July 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

I gotta vote encona too (I first encountered it as a small child where I mistook it for ketchup and sloshed it merrily over my chips, this, in retrospect, was an error).

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 12 July 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

I'm a pretty big hot sauce fan. Sylvia's has great packaging but is farily mild and flavorless. Tapatio is probably my no.1 favorite.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:31 (twenty years ago) link

I am currently having a burrito with Tabasco Chipotle, with Dave's Insanity Roasted Garlic on the side for dipping.

I forgot a sauce I bought today at this odd little grocery -- Lemon something something Peri-Peri. Looks good, for cooking with if not so much as a condiment. Has xanthan gum in it, though :/

(And just as I start to eat the burrito, Olivia NEwton-John's version of "Ring of Fire" starts up...)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:35 (twenty years ago) link

What ring would that be?

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:37 (twenty years ago) link

"That would be the butt, Bob."

("... and it burns, burns, burns ...")

Actually, anti-confession time: I have never once -- not from Taco Bell, not from "what are these 'Scotch bonnet' things, anyway? Well, I suppose I'll put a bowlful in the chili to find out," not from burritos of questionable pedigree, not from undergraduate experiments gone awry -- had that particular problem.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

And now we know.

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

You know, I advise (okay, this coming from a guy who watches 3 hours of Food Network a day, and drinks 4-16 beers while doing it) everyone just to make your own hot sauce. All you need is peppers, salt (maybe), vinegar, and a blender, and whatever specialty stuff you wanna bring into it. It'll be fresher-tasting, and you can customize it to the dish you wanna serve it with.

Also, try that Toad-Sweat (sweet habanero syrup/sauce) stuff on ice cream. It's WEIRD.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 13 July 2003 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

See, I tried that once -- this was some years ago, when Emeril did a show on it -- and it came out like crap. Bitter as all hell. I assume it was the peppers, but I don't know ... (he did it with roasted dried-and-reconstituted chiles, so that's what I did.)

I've made hot sauces since, just not that way. Pureed pickled peppers or chipotles, vinegar as needed, roasted garlic, and so on. Comes out thicker, but it's tasty enough (and usually very strong).

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 13 July 2003 04:04 (twenty years ago) link

Garlic, yeah. I advise garlic for just about any kinda sauce you do. I keep like 4 bulbs handy at any one time. Just think if I lived near Gilroy CA... My house would be decorated in it.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 13 July 2003 04:43 (twenty years ago) link

My girlfriend doesn't understand why I buy garlic by the bag and am not just content with the little jars of pre-minced stuff (which is fine for quesadillas or whatever). And then I make minestrone and roast two of the bulbs for it, and go, "See?"

(There's no hot sauce in the minestrone ... oh! But one of the Cheap Cooking Things I used to do with the ex was roasted a bulb of garlic and just cover it in Tabasco. Bam, you got dip, or sauce, or whatever.)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 13 July 2003 04:45 (twenty years ago) link

*Sigh* ... What the hell am I doing in New Orleans? I don't get drunk, I don't have much interest in music and my taste in food is bland as hell. Although since moving here I have acquired a taste for spicy things. My palette is not sophisticated enough to tell the difference between hot sauces, though. If it makes stuff kinda hot and spicy without setting my mouth on fire or whatever, that's good hot sauce.

jewelly (jewelly), Sunday, 13 July 2003 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

It's too bad Bayou Country doesn't have the kind of hot sauce sampling it used to, but hie thee hence anyway. You can try six or seven of their sauces on popcorn (and a dozen or so more down at the French Market, before the flea market).

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 13 July 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

here i am thinking Sylvia's is some wonderful thing....of course I also thought "The Neverending Story" was scary when I was younger..

django (django), Sunday, 13 July 2003 05:16 (twenty years ago) link

There was a silly article in Where Y'at (aka Where's the Gambit) a couple months ago about the Melinda's people and the New Orleans hot sauce underground--I'll see if I can find it.

adam (adam), Sunday, 13 July 2003 05:24 (twenty years ago) link

New Orleans hot sauce underground! How the hell was I not a part of that?

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 13 July 2003 05:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Burned At The Stake" is a habanero sauce that is really thick and has a great flavor.
burned_at_the_stake.jpg

rat, Monday, 14 July 2003 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

http://www.peppersofkeywest.com/images/product_images/psychosoy2.jpg

habanero soy sauce

this is seriously the greatest product of all time

Whiney G. Weingarten (J0hn D.), Saturday, 28 February 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

wow really?

f f murray abraham (G00blar), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

soy psycho

its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

they never sell shit like this in london :(

just sayin, Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Man, Tep had terrible taste in hot sauce (except for Sriracha).

if you don't stan for something, you will fall for anything (roxymuzak), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I like that Rhino Peri-Peri shit, too.

if you don't stan for something, you will fall for anything (roxymuzak), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

no

sleeve, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

if you don't stan for something, you will fall for anything (roxymuzak), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

the other day i dipped a banana in some sriracha it was a shocking treat

its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

you've become like me with sriracha -- a strict "why not" policy

if you don't stan for something, you will fall for anything (roxymuzak), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

http://foodjunta.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/sriracha.jpg

cozwn, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, that's a photo of it

if you don't stan for something, you will fall for anything (roxymuzak), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

good work

its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

srireach & destroy

its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

http://jessicam.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/sriracha.jpg

cozwn, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

rox/hoos mindmeld snarking on dude posting sriracha.jpg is some k.i.neg shit

and what, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

we're having a bad week

if you don't stan for something, you will fall for anything (roxymuzak), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

k.i.neg boy pato

and what, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

</3

its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

the other day i dipped a banana in some sriracha it was a shocking treat

― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver),

lol that's showing good initiative. First time I had sriracha and peanut butter was awesome, so I am imagining a peanut butter, banana, sriracha sandwich.

Sriracha is kind of scary because eventually you won't find food appetizing without it.

swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Sunday, 1 March 2009 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link

totally true, even though it loses its initial ZING

if you don't stan for something, you will fall for anything (roxymuzak), Sunday, 1 March 2009 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

xp nothing like a hot sauce party with old frank

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 10 January 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link

I had Frank's before and didn't like it much, no tang and not spicy enough. just got a bottle of encona extra hot and it's the closest I've found to what I want so far, still not perfect of course

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 January 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

the idea that frank’s has no tang is... delusional

El Tomboto, Friday, 10 January 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link

frank’s chilli and lime rules

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 January 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

there is a near full bottle of tabasco chipotle in the fridge

what is up with these animals refrigerating their hot sauce

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

I've had some that say to refrigerate after opening. There's vinegar in them but I assume just not as much as a tobasco type sauce?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 January 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link

the Frank's wasn't tangy, what can I say, it was just sort of vaguely sour, like it had a dash of cheap malt vinegar in there somewhere.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 January 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

was going to post about valentina but see i did so 6 months ago. never buy anything else anymore

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 January 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link

I would never under any circumstances put cold hot sauce on anything

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 January 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link

hmmm. I refrigerate all my hot sauce at home. But I don't refrigerate things like soy sauce (that freaks me out to see it in the fridge). My hot sauce at work I am fine to just keep in the desk.

Yerac, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link

are you concerned that it's going to go bad?

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 January 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

you have always otherwise struck me as perfectly sance, non-demonic person

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 January 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link

SANE

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 January 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link

on the soy sauce bottles it says after opening: refrigerate and use within blah blah.. I always thought that was crap.

calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link

I didn't say this earlier, but I avoid habanero-based hot sauces. There is something astringent about that pepper, it tastes poisonous instead of delicious.

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link

The combination of Tabasco and cheddar cheese (on nachos, for example) is pretty divine imo

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 10 January 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

I guess i just automatically put condiments in the fridge at home to keep everything in the same place. All my hot sauces are in the door with all the mustard.

Soy sauce, if you grew up in an asian household it's a huge ass jug of soy sauce that is never in the fridge.

Yerac, Saturday, 11 January 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link

I have never refrigerated soy sauce either, that would seem equally wrong.

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 11 January 2020 02:50 (four years ago) link

where do you all store your opened bottles of hot sauce? In a cupboard?

I also haven't lived in a place with central ac since maybe around college. So the kitchen will get super hot in the summer. My rental with the suspicious chipotle tabasco has central ac but we turned it off and leave the terrace doors open all day. It's mostly tropical here so I wouldn't leave any food out for multiple days (bugs). The soy sauce is in a cupboard here though.

Yerac, Saturday, 11 January 2020 04:57 (four years ago) link

i put frank's on everything. sometimes the simplest is the best

ciderpress, Saturday, 11 January 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link

I have some encona west indian hot pepper sauce at the back of my fridge I'd forgotten about. Yes I keep them in my fridge as well! But doesn't that mean they retain their potency and flavour for longer? I don't know the science behind that theory, but it seems to make sense! Also nothing wrong with putting cold hot sauce on food that is piping hot or getting grilled anyway, surely?

calzino, Saturday, 11 January 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

xxp yes in a cupboard, on a dedicated shelf with soy sauces and vinegars and harissa etc.

In my experience this has no bearing on potency/flavor retention..,these things are so locked in by acids and salt. Hot sauce does seem to me thinner and more absoptive/"penetrative" to food at room temp than when cold.

I guess for cooking the temp doesn't matter but as a table condiment at the table I just don't like putting cold liquid on hot food.

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 11 January 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link

hot sauces we eat the most are chopped jalapenos in white vinegar, prik nam pla, and trader joe's jalapeno sauce. Keep them all in the fridge. I wonder how much heat is required for a vinaigrette to be considered a hot sauce.

Robert Corwen (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 11 January 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

the chunkier the hot sauce the more likely I want it to be in the fridge. I put harissa and chili garlic in the fridge. But I also can't be bothered looking at the contents of all the small batch new hot sauces to figure it out.

I don't mind putting cold hot sauce on hot food. it's usually with guac or a cold veg or a raw fish thing. Or for my eggs I have to usually wait for the eggs to cool off a bit anyway.

Yerac, Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link

My brother brought me back a couple of bottles of Lombok Kuning from Makassar, Indonesia. It works pretty well in places where I would use Yucateco - a similar heat level.

o. nate, Sunday, 12 January 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link

I forgot about Melinda’s Naga Jolokia. This is the go-to for when I want to actually sweat

El Tomboto, Sunday, 12 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

bought some kimchi-based hot sauce and it's salty but I really like it. Also bought some gochujang, it's really good

Dan S, Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:24 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

just had a lazy improvised fryup with onions, garlic, green bell peppers and chestnut mushrooms, cabbage and some Encona hot pepper sauce. i'm not joking it was the fucking biz!

calzino, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link

going to do the same tomorrow with some egg fried rice on the side for dinner.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

made my own

seems pretty good !

||||||||, Friday, 17 July 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

was pretty easy too - takes a bit of time fermenting the peppers but after that was a piece of piss

||||||||, Friday, 17 July 2020 10:41 (three years ago) link

the encona extra hot is very good, not taken with regular encona though.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 July 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

The Rancho Gordo Rio Fuego is really good. Not insanely hot, but a ton of depth.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Friday, 17 July 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Ordered some stuff from Heatonist (store that is connected with Hot Ones youtube show) and holy shit that garlic reaper sauce is so hot. I don't know why I keep wanting to eat it again! It's tasty for the few moments you can taste.

Evan, Monday, 15 February 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

I got a bottle of this for xmas as a stocking stuffer, just broke it open recently and GOT DAMN it is the saltiest hot sauce I've ever had. Good garlic flavor but the salt almost kills it.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 15 February 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link


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