can anyone give me details about the feud b/w bea arthur and betty white

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I loved her in 'The Mary Tyler Moore Show'. She was evil.

estela (estela), Sunday, 6 July 2003 07:35 (twenty years ago) link

She was a seductress, not at all like the Rose Nylund character she's best known for. She was sorta like the antithesis to the wholesome innocence of Mary Richards.

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 6 July 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link

I love it when people are nasty to Rufus Wainwright! Go Bea!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 6 July 2003 07:52 (twenty years ago) link

I heard that Bea Arthur shat in one of Betty's shoes.

Also Bea is quoted as saying of her co-stars "X was fabulous, Y was divine and Z was a complete fucking cunt".

Z was Betty.

I love Bea.

j0e (j0e), Sunday, 6 July 2003 10:24 (twenty years ago) link

These Bea Arthur/Betty White shenadgians are amusing. I think the show could have done with a bit of this nastiness - I thought the Golden Girls was really boring when I was younger and would wish when it was on Channel 4 that they would show more weirdo Russian/Czech/East German animation in its place. Actually, the Golden Girls done in a "Worker And Parasite" style would be amazing. LIKE SO:

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[EVERYTHING IS DRAWN IN A SCRATCHY WHITE-ON-BLACK STYLE. BETTY WHITE IS COOKING POTATOES, AND IS A GIANT ANTHROPOMORPHIC HEN. BETTY TAKES ONE POTATO AND CRACKS IT OPEN LIKE AN EGG. CLOSE UP OF WEEPING FACES SLIDING OUT OF IT INTO A FRYING PAN. CUT TO BEA ARTHUR COMING THROUGH THE KITCHEN DOOR. SHE IS BALD AND HOLDS A SMALL COCKROACH-MAN IN HER HANDS, WHICH IS GAGGED AND IS TRYING TO BREATHE]

BEA: Oh my hen wife, will you ever buy me creamed rice?
BETTY: Creamed rice is a tool of Western propaganda. Shut up and eat your boiled potato.
BEA: Gahhhhhhhhhhh!

[CUT TO BEA'S HEAD ROLLING OFF HER NECK AND THUMPING ON THE FLOOR. BETTY SCREAMS. JUMP CUT TO BETTY IDLY CLUCKING A HAPPY SONG AS SHE WASHES PLATES. BEA HAS HER HEAD BACK ON, AND IS SQUEEZING THE COCKRAOCH-MAN. FADE OUT, AND BACK INTO SUBTITLE: "WHY MUST WE ALL DIE?"]

(© 1972 StateFilm Animation Studio)

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But anyway. I remember a spoof of the show on Naked Video back in around about 1989 which amused me at the time - Helen Lederer was the cranky grandmother one, some bloke playted Bea Arthur. The fact that it was a bloke playing Bea was the whole point of the sketch, and everyone tried to get him to own up to the fact he was a man. Eventually after they'd all given up, Helen Lederer casually goes "So, how high can you pee against a wall?" "Oh, about 6 foot on a good day... SHIT!"

Chriddof (Chriddof), Sunday, 6 July 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

Betty White was also that cantankerous (one of my all-time favorite words, it sounds so much like its meaning) old bat who kept getting in everybody's way in 'Hard Rain'.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 6 July 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

jewelly, I'm surprised. Bea just seems like she's so much more your speed.

Yeah, Kenan, but Betty is HAWT.

jewelly (jewelly), Sunday, 6 July 2003 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

Okay - I need to look at some more of Betty White's roles, it's plainly clear to see that I am missing out on a lot.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 6 July 2003 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

go to Mary Tyler Moore, Match Game PM, and St. Elsewhere for good stuff

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 6 July 2003 21:50 (twenty years ago) link

Thank you, James - I'd forgotten about Mary Tyler Moore - the others are new to me, though.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 6 July 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

Did Betty White ever sing Brecht/Weill songs?

rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 6 July 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

bea arthur is gawd.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 6 July 2003 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

Not as far as I know Rosemary, not that I'm any kind of authority on the matter, and neither did her recently late cousin Barry.

You may have been confusing Betty with one of the names in Brecht & Weill's 'Mack The Knife':

Pearly White.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 6 July 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link

Well Bea Arthur was DEFINITELY in "The Threepenny Opera" so therefore, BA > BW.

rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 6 July 2003 23:12 (twenty years ago) link

Not to mention the Star Wars Xmas Special...

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 6 July 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, and Betty White never sang with Rock Hudson a song about drugs.

rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 7 July 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

I'm slightly disturbed by the level of knowledge of trivia being displayed on this thread. I'm more disturbed that I'm enjoying it.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 7 July 2003 03:25 (twenty years ago) link

There's no Betty White equivalent for the phrase "I wouldn't fuck her with Bea Arthur's dick."

rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 7 July 2003 03:41 (twenty years ago) link

*choke* Wow. Thanks. That's a delightfully vivid image. But I would have preferred somethe more pleasant to go to sleep listening to, I think.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 7 July 2003 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

Betty White never did the Urkel.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

At least, not live on national television.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

Are you certain?

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

I love it when people are nasty to Rufus Wainwright!

It's a fine and good thing, it is.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 July 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

Betty White is also occasionally on That 70s Show as Mrs Foreman's mother, and she plays a bitch there too.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

Bea Arthur rocked presenting that award with that sea lion...or was it an ourang-utang? this was the Oscars i think

Betty White had a cameo in The Simpsons not so long ago that was amusing ("if you're watching this channel without donating you're nothing but thieves")

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 08:32 (twenty years ago) link

six years pass...

See, Betty White wouldn't think it is at all funny that you don't have a clitoris and you shit when you come. Bea Arthur would appreciate it, though.

Dear lord what does this mean?

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

A friend of mine made me watch "Lake Placid" last week because, in it, Betty White feeds cattle to a giant CGI alligator. This is about 0.4% of the film time.

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I kind of get what K meant, which I think worries me.

hulk would smash (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 09:10 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2929260387_72d71d5e6b.jpg

Derelict, Sunday, 4 April 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

FWIW, Bea Arthur nude 'shops outnumber Betty 'shops by about 5:1.

http://laist.com/attachments/tony/ggundies.jpg

Derelict, Sunday, 4 April 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Betty White gets a PBS special.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

Man, is that feud still happening? When will they let it go?

Things To Do For Dinner When You're Dad (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

97 today!
from wikipedia: After the war, White made rounds to movie studios looking for work, but was always turned down because she was "unphotogenic".

wtf???

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 17 January 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link


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