― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 04:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 04:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 07:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 08:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 08:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 09:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
oh teeny dont worry. i'll be fine. i already bought a small packet of surgical masks here in bangkok for like $2. they even have a burberry trim. ha!
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
This prolly will kill today's rally in stock price:
"News Alert: American Airlines Plane From Asia Quarantined on Tarmac With Four Suspected Cases of Mystery Illness On Board"
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm am pretty upset about this whole thing - and rather disgusted that it's not getting more coverage. Of course, I've been reading all sorts of charming books about the Influenza epidemics and the various plagues that swept round the world, so maybe I'm jut oddly paranoid at the moment.
It's not surprising that stuff is arising in China, though - the proximity of humans, pigs, and chickens makes a ripe breeding ground for transmission and mutation of avian virus' to virus' that affect humans.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
So, um - aren't they saying that SARD is a virus?
Mutation of the common cold is the last I read. At this point I dunno, Im just trying to stay out of the way of sneezing people.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
Depends on who you ask.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donna (donna), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
Something to do with cutting back on the inhaled siliva transfered from hacking and coughing by the sick folk would be my guess.
The UN eh? Freaky. I should go poke around to see who does other then us and our southern neighbours.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
Viruses and bacteria are both individually too tiny to be stopped by any sort of typical fabric mask. The trick is this - to travel from host to host, a virus or bacteria has to ride on a droplet of moisture, like the kind that you expel in a sneeze or cough. While not a perfect defense, a simple stretch of fabric over your mouth will prevent most diseases from entering your respiratory tract. For example, if we were attacked using biological weapons, there have been tests with rodents that have proven that a double layer of T-shirt fabric held over the mouth and nose stands an extremely good chance of saving your life. As they say with the 4/4 backbeat, it's cliché for a reason.
(anecdotal remark overheard concerning these experiments: it's a bitch getting folded fabric to stay on a mouse's face)
Tracer's right too - the fatality rate is still a lot lower than some other things you can catch.
― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
Steve McCroskey: Johnny, what can you make out of this? [Hands him the weather briefing] Johnny: This? Why, I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl -
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
the proximity of humans, pigs, and chickens makes a ripe breeding ground for transmission and mutation of avian virus' to virus' that affect humans.
lame.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
:-D
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
;-D
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 03:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mu, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 03:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
I just heard on the radio that the Australian government has advised it's people not to travel to HK, China , Vietnam or Laos. Take care Phil!
― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
there doesn't seem to be a simple explanation for that one.a large number of them are suffering from kafunsho dueto overenthusiastic monoculture tree farming. all the forestshave been logged and replanted with a single type of cedar whichgrows particularly straight. this has caused a huge percentageof japan residents massive, massive allergy problems.
but that's not the only explanation for the masks ...
it's like all the sleeping commuters. i've heard that someoneis doing a phd thesis on that topic ...
― logjaman, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
Thanks Chris [and Teeny]. I'm sure it'll be fine. the places i'm going to in China are nowhere near Hong Kong - like a 40 hour train ride away. And anyways, the Australian/American governements are always warning their citizens against travelling anywhere. If we all listened, our holiday options would be limited to Ibiza and Canada. Are you Cabbage Chris, by the way?
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chris (chris), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
Now, that said, let's keep speculation to a minimum and discuss what's actually happening in our communities, and our concerns. Overtly racist stuff (and I'm still not convinced that there has been any, necessarily) will be deleted.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 3 April 2003 01:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 April 2003 01:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Just as a cautionary note tho: anyone who's familiar with the history of AIDS knows that there was a contingent of gay people who strongly opposed the city of SF shutting down the bathhouses. However, in that case it really was in the public interest to support this measure, not least to keep gay people alive. I mean plenty of right-wing anti-gay whatevas may have supported the measure for all the wrong reasons but if they had been shut down earlier many more ppl. would be alive today. So yeah.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 3 April 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 April 2003 04:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
Just wash yr hands after using the bathroom and before eating and cover your mouth when you sneeze. Jesus H. Christ.
― That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 3 April 2003 04:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
BTW am I missing something? I don't pick up anything that couldbe seriously classed as racist in the above.
― logjaman, Thursday, 3 April 2003 04:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yes, everything is normal here.
― s woods, Friday, 25 April 2003 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Though between SARS and me eating a street sausage people thought I was a nut.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 25 April 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm trying not to get too upset on the subway...people have always come onto the subway while they're sick and coughing up a lung, that's just the joy of living in an urban centre where people rely on transit to get to work or the doctor. Unfortunately now everyone is a bit more wound up than usual and people are afraid to cough. When I eat sugar or drink beer I get a bit congested in the lungs and have to cough, even though I don't get SICK, but now I'm worried that if I go on a sugar bender people will think I'm some sort of vector. But hey, if that clears a circle around me then maybe that's not so bad.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 25 April 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s woods, Friday, 25 April 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
This makes a lot of sense. Maybe it would be a good thing if this caught on here in the States, especially for people who are sick but still come in to the office. It's like "Yes, you are such a dedicated employee, but you could please not breathe when I'm around."
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 25 April 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
i always thought that had something to do with the pollution in the area.
and as for toronto, the situation is getting blown a touch outta proportion. i mean we had our fap last week without the transmition of a single disease.er...ya.
― dyson (dyson), Friday, 25 April 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 25 April 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 25 April 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 25 April 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
"I am going to claw everyone of you TO DEATH"
― rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah MCLusky (coco), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 23 May 2003 15:42 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 23 May 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 23 May 2003 15:54 (twenty years ago) link
Masked palm civets have short fur that can be brown, orange, red or gray, with black bands on the head and feet. They eat mostly fruit, weigh up to 13 pounds and have bodies that grow up to two-and-a-half feet long, with tails of nearly equal length.
Judging from their activity and feeding habits, infected civets do not appear to feel any ill-effects from the virus. Only a small number of civets have been tested so far. Professor Yuen declined to say precisely how many, but most seemed to have the virus.
It is possible that the disease originated in another species and then spread to the civets, he said at a news conference this afternoon, while adding that he believed that the disease came to people from civets. While no tests have been done, it is also "theoretically possible" that household cats could become infected, as they are very similar biologically to civets, Professor Yuen added.
The raising and slaughter of civets and other exotic animals should be strictly regulated to prevent further outbreaks of SARS and possibly other new diseases, he said, while contending that a total ban on consumption of them could not succeed. "It is very difficult to stop a culture; it has been there for 5,000 years," he said.
― hstencil, Friday, 23 May 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
There is nothing strange about the Sars coronavirus, they said; it certainly evolved from other known viruses.
One leading expert said Professor Wickramasinghe's letter "must be a joke"; another said it is simply ridiculous.'
surely it is the Professor's name that is the joke here?!@@
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 May 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 23 May 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link
THEY GOT THE DISEASE BECAUSE THEY WERE EATING KITTENS DO YOU SEE?
GOD IS A TWEE BASTARD
― Millar (Millar), Friday, 23 May 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:36 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
AIDS - mysterious lethal disease whose appearance is attributed to a virus spontaneously "jumping" from one species to another
I need to not be so paranoid.
― conspiracy theoristalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 23 May 2003 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
I for one am massively impressed by the way knowledge and research data about this disease has travelled through the international medical community. I think the way this has been handled by the WHO etc. is nothing short of amazing, really. Look at where we years ago with regard to similar new illnesses. Like Wow.
― Millar (Millar), Friday, 23 May 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 23 May 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 23 May 2003 22:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Friday, 23 May 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link