Thanks a lot, Ryan
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
also I kind of don't want to bring up the video with all of the people with Down's Syndrome dancing around in it because I'm terrified of the commentary it will inspire but...
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
GenevieveKoski: Oh Pitchfork, you can try to scrub these hilariously bad old reviews from the site, but the Internet Archive tells all: http://bit.ly/b7L5Ul
real talk?
― borntohula, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man, the old P4k layout
― ksh, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
HAHA A 9.5!!!
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link
somebody add it to their wikipedia page
― imma sb (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, a band in their perfect groove. I reached bedside to my DC City Paper and began to frantically search for them live. That's when their cover of "Come On Eileen" came on. I think I came. Great music that won't be soon forgotten by anyone who's heard them.
i assumed this had to be a joke, but looking at the other works of James P. Wisdom I'm almost willing to accept this is not an ironic slam.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
the name "james p wisdom" just sounds too good to be true.
― borntohula, Thursday, 29 April 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
james w pissdom
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 29 April 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
(It's also a statement of allegiances: though Blake-- as Harmonimix-- has worked with Lil' Wayne's voice, he doesn't seem to be as interested in current American hip-hop and R&B as much as he is in picking up where Timbaland and the Neptunes left off at the end of the 1990s.)
this is a weird statement -- clearly neither timbaland nor the neptunes (who were barely even starting in the late 90s) "left off" at the end of 90s -- unless powell is insinuating that timbo & i guess the neptunes started going in different directions musically at the turn of the decade (and i wouldn't even agree with that), the timeline of this is obv pretty messed up
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link
this is still puzzling me
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
what review?
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 May 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
n/m
This one was bugging me the other day:
Despite an absence of the band's best-known songs, the sweaty, grimy Exile on Main St. has grown into the Rolling Stones' most universally acclaimed record. Despite dozens of hits, putting together a cohesive album often seemed to be beyond the Stones, tripped up by either manager Allen Klein's publishing-rights parasitism or the band's 1970s hubris. That leaves a catalog in which only Exile is built not on hits but on vibe and: the album's singularly sleazy sound and making-of legend.
Bold mine.
― kkvgz, Monday, 24 May 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait, no bold. Anyway, it's the repeated "despite" that bothered me.
Despite dozens of hits, putting together a cohesive album often seemed to be beyond the Stones, tripped up by either manager Allen Klein's publishing-rights parasitism or the band's 1970s hubris.
The Stones had recorded "cohesive" albums since 1966 at least, and I'm only including the entirely self-written ones.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
how is sticky fingers not a cohesive album?
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
or yeah as alfred says, like most of them?
the stones always feel more cohesive to me than the beatles
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
How is that second despite bothersome (aside from the writer just needing a thesaurus)? The writer is emphasizing his thesis statement; the Rolling Stones were good at pumping out appealing, easy-to-acclaim singles but had problems focusing that energy into a cohesive, easy-to-acclaim album.
Whether that opinion makes any sense is better handled by the people already making fun of it.
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Who wrote that Rolling Stones review? That's some incredible wrongness.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I think starting two sentences with Despite is the bothersome part.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not sure he's constructing parallel structures, but even if he wasn't both uses of "despite" are correct.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
How is that second despite bothersome
It just didn't flow like he was emphasizing it to me. The ideas that he expresses don't need that kind of build.
― kkvgz, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Despite an absence of the band's best-known songs, the sweaty, grimy Exile on Main St.
"Tumbling Dice" isn't one of their best-known songs? If he'd said "an absence of the band's biggest hits," he'd be correct; "Tumbling Dice" "only" hit #7.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
That seems nit-picky. "Tumbling Dice" isn't as well known as their best known songs, yes.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, I was all ready to say "I have never heard this song before in my life" and then it got to the "baaaby" part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sh-fMOecSE
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Are those Playboy dice?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I have never heard this song before in my life.
― jaymc, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
(I mean, maybe I have. The "baby" part does sound familiar, but I don't know if it's actually familiar or just familiar-sounding.)
I've never pegged you as a Stones fan.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's true -- in all my days as a classic rock radio-listening pre-teen/teenager, Exile songs were *not* the Stones songs they played on the radio very often. to this day, i bet there are at least 15 Stones songs more likely to be played on the radio.
― tylerw, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
"Tumbling Dice" never got as much play as the sixties stuff, the Some Girls threesome, and "Start Me Up," but I heard it enough. Its chart position is exactly right: big enough.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Opening "ooooooh-oooooooh" of the background singers in Tumbling Dice always hits me like a greeting from a great old friend.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
actually, the one I feel like I've heard the most is "Beast of Burden," which seems kind of weird. but this is just my experience ...
― tylerw, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
That's totally weird.
― kkvgz, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
In my last town I think the classic rock station played "Beast of Burden" every day.
― frozen cookie (Abbott), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, the last time I spent any significant amount of time listening to classic rock (lol 1987) "Beast of Burden" was played a lot.
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
might just be that it's the stones ballad of choice -- Wild Horse is a little too draggy for classick rock stations, probably.
― tylerw, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
96 Rock in the ATL played "Tumbling Dice" all the time; it's a pretty southern rock-y single, which the Stones don't really have very many of, given their fixations---there's "Brown Sugar", and not many others.
This is my kind of Pitchfork thread! (I mean the Stones part.)
― Euler, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not. But I just looked at this list and can count about 15 songs that I instantly know how they go, which means there's probably also a handful of others I might know if I heard them.
― jaymc, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I was jokin'. Beast of Burden is a very, very famous song by the Rolling Stones.
― kkvgz, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.rollingstonesnet.com/images/BeastOfBurdenPS.jpg
Although when I image searched it, I came up with a bunch of Magic: The Gathering cards.
― kkvgz, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/pitchforkmedia/status/15357256549
― Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty thrilled they've started having entire news items that quote stuff like Colin Meloy weighing in on the MIA saga via Twitter
― ksh, Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
You're being ironic, I hope.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh that Andre 3000 "song" is so sad
― in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
like, this is what yr wasting yr time with dude? really?
http://pitchfork.com/news/39014-echo-chamber-colin-meloy-vs-mia/
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― ksh, Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
also: zzzzzzzzzz
Sorta half serious question -- it feels around ILX like though Pitchfork often covers the albums that get a lot of discussion, it's kinda a closed circuit. Outside a few columns (specifically Why We Fight, Poptimists, stuff like that), they review an album and then outside this thread or others like it there's no relationship to the review. I assume a good Pitchfork review can still help sell a record, but has their critical impact waned at all (I mean, more than the general critical impact of music writing has waned)? I can't even remember what they wrote about any of the albums that I'd consider interesting this year -- even stuff that formerly would've fallen into their critical context (like Vampire Weekend or Sleigh Bells). Is this anyone else's experience or am I totally off-base?
― Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link