It would be nice is P4k got deej or someone to keep a closer eye on hip-hop, or specific regional scenes, but what can you do.
I've been trying to get on with them for like two years now with no luck.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I was pretty happy when I got to the bottom of that article but then I realized there were 2 more pages to go
― armando white (dyao), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf though it did seem like noz was beefin for the sake of beefin
― armando white (dyao), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― armando white (dyao), Tuesday, April 6, 2010 10:59 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark
Let's be honest: What's new?
― rennavate, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
no, the article was solid, a good summary for those not following the convo, and i don't think a p4k writer needs ethically to be part of that convo in order to summarize it for his readers, but noz is justified in his crackaz is biters steez nonetheless, esp. if t.b. is fishing around for attention on the strength of it.
― zvookster, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, tom's original tweet was kind of desperate, but i know the feeling
― new goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
like, when i spent 4+ hours writing a blog post about drake that was informed by months of internal thought, i was kind of disappointed when it only got 6 comments
but then again i didn't end up posting on twitter fishing for comments
― new goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
btw excellent drake piece j0rdan :D
― zvookster, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link
looool xpost honestly
ha, thanks \(o_O)/
― new goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link
ayo link to your drake piece j.s.?
― armando white (dyao), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
non-trolling comment coming from someone w/ almost no knowledge of any of this: where is this "convo" taking place?
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
ksh: twitter
― new goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link
http://somanyshrimp.com/2010/03/23/drake-rap-and-rb/
the whole "convo" that informed Tom's piece? apologies for being unclear--i wasn't referring to the convo following from his piece
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link
just the general rap discourse ksh
― zvookster, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link
you need to get on bloglines right quick
― armando white (dyao), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link
good piece j.s. but I hadn't realized people actually considered drake to be a rapper until now
it's v true
― new goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link
rap is dead, long live rap
― armando white (dyao), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
this ruleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_MVICbfuo&feature=player_embedded
dude who was looking for summer rapz check it out
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link
ksh: like i could specifically point even just to noz reviews, posts & comment sections on g-side, young l, & the labyrinth/maze series, from whence u could trace significant parts of the p4k bit; even noz didn't do this in this brief spat kicked off by t.b.'s whorish dissing. "Even @noz was only slightly passive-aggressively dickish!"
― zvookster, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link
jeez deej read yr fuckin blogs why don't u rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread
:D
― a midsummer night's cream (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link
ksh: like i could specifically point even just to noz reviews, posts & comment sections on g-side, young l, & the labyrinth/maze series, from whence u could trace significant parts of the p4k bit; even noz didn't do this in this brief spat kicked off by t.b.'s whorish dissing. "Even @noz was only slightly passive-aggressively dickish!"― zvookster, Wednesday, April 7, 2010 12:51 AM (12 minutes ago)
― zvookster, Wednesday, April 7, 2010 12:51 AM (12 minutes ago)
thanks dude! as i said, i have no context for any of this & can't remember ever even visiting Cocaine Blunts before today, but now i have some idea of what all this was about.
― kkkksssshhhh (ksh), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
btw j0rdan did u hear z-ro's take on "successful"?
[z-ro's singing voice]
i want the money, the money & the cars,the cars & the clothes...but when i hit the weed, i tend to get a little forgeeeettttfuuuuuul
runnin this rapping into singing thing goin back like epmd in fisherman hats
― zvookster, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link
this is :-D
― new goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link
z-ro's singing voice is great
that pitchfork article was good, as was yr drake article j0rdan
i agree with whoever was saying rap blogs are awful: with a few exceptions its just people reposting youtubes with little to no commentary is this really any different to other genres of music though? i don't read indie blogs but aren't they just reposting the new song by this new kewl band etc
i find out abt new rap from here and other message boards and occasionally irl friends. here is good: ppl are usually enthusiastic abt the music and not moaning abt the state of rap and calling each other fags etc.
i guess sometimes i get useful rap info from twitter but more often than not i have to unfollow rappers after they retweet every single person that says they like their new track
i'd actually really love to see a 'rap pitchfork' that pulled together a load of writers (if they can put aside their twitter beefs of course) with album reviews + longer pieces exploring regional scenes and stuff - there is really a place for something like this imo.
― archer's goon (tpp), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 06:52 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the great thing about this place is other people do the culling for you like WoW gold laborers in china
― armando white (dyao), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link
rap sucks now, fags
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it was jesse serwer who pointed out for me that that was def a reprisal for drake's sacrilegious appropriation of the SUC June 27th freestyle session.
― zvookster, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 07:42 (fourteen years ago) link
june 27th beat is one of the best ever
― new goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 07:46 (fourteen years ago) link
s4rge + dr4ke - for some reason so many shrimp not been updating in my google reader for ages. i just assumed it was cos you guys mad lazy or no good rap or whatever but :)
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link
those breihan tweets were embarrassing - c'mon dude we all crave attention but it's just nagl to let it show so blatantly - but i find it hard to believe that noz's much-vaunted "conversation" on "blogs" is all that much better - i'll cop to only reading two or three rap blogs but honestly who needs to dive into a world of grumpyheads nitpicking at each other over and over again zzz.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link
did we mention the fat joe & young jeezy track here already btw? the soul ii soul sampling one? i really love it.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 08:55 (fourteen years ago) link
naw cb is great, but noz be gettin presumptuous here, even if tom b is issuing stupid challanges
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link
noz is a seriously toxic dude imo (and that's coming from me). nagl when ur repping lil b tbh.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link
dunno about you guys but even besides the 'back to life' ref that 'shutterbug' says to me big boi's been listening to some blaqkout - whole thing seems so much quik-er than any organized noize that i can recall, give or take the signature organ. still dope tho!
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i completely adore "shutterbug" and agree re the quikness
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
damn i hate when this thread gets active overnight and i have to try (and fail) to load the whole page to catch what i missed. can we delete all of deej's fuckin bay youtubes or something?
― eenie meenie miney mo hater (some dude), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
^otm
― swag surfer blood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
also, i think @noz's responses to breihan were totally batshit. he's like "BLOGGERS ARE DOING YOUR FOOTWORK, BITER" as if there's no benefit in delivering that info in a cohesive narrative to an average pitchfork reader. Like noz expects some Local Natives fan to be combing the datpiff comments section and subscribing to 20 blogs instead of reading one article.
― swag surfer blood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"the information is out there" /= "the information is in a digestible and interesting form for someone who's not immersed in it"
― swag surfer blood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i mean...noz wrote a pretty good 'the decade in mixtapes' thing for NPR a few months ago and a lot of it would be no fuckin' duh to the average rap fan but clearly he understands the value of writing for your outlet and documenting larger narratives with summaries and overviews
― eenie meenie miney mo hater (some dude), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
plus he was just going on and on the other day about how nobody writes at length about rap on blogs anymore and stuff like twitter don't serve well as long term documentation
― eenie meenie miney mo hater (some dude), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
my bay youtubes rule eff yall
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
co-sign
you pos this shit yethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_FmLAOP-BY
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
can't wait for Livewire Radio 3
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
haa thats another one of those bay beats that starts off super-generic sounding & transforms into an orchestra of textures & melodies a minute in --- so dope. who did the beat??
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link