Grand Theft Auto IV -- It might feature crime and prostitutes.

It was the lack of save points mid mission that really got to me!

The Wu-Tang game is great.

xp Yeah, save points would help. I only ever attempted the last mission once - after fighting my way into the building, and fighting my way up all the stairs, and fighting my way past the big bosses, I was all PLEASE LET THIS BE OVER NOW. But no, suddenly the building was on fire and I had to fight my way all the way downstairs again. I died, of course, and then gave up. SO CLOSE. I'm kinda disappointed I never finished it.

I did it 8 or 9 times. Always lost at the same place where the brother is hanging off the fire truck. I could never drive up close enough. It just pissed me off that there was no checkpoint at all :(

The last mission does let you skip stuff though. If you fail the mission after you get out the building and then restart, it let's you start from when you started chasing the firetruck. This is in the PS2 version, I don't know about other versions.

Not on the PC it doesn't. Yet another reason why I like the PS2 more than PC at the moment!

No? Wow, does that suck. On PS2 I think there are three different spots in the last mission you can restart from, provided you get past them in the first place.

Oh, boy, these new screenshots. Rockstar will now have the distinction of having made two games based in Coney Island!

WARRRRIORSSSS!!!

This is the wrong board, but I'm still happy to see NBA Playoff fever reach the shores of the Emerald Isle, even if belatedly!

They brought good comics too! (Cheers again)

Trailer 2 due out 26th June

so it's in, and I'm downloading it now. anyone else seen it?

http://grandtheftauto.yahoo.com/

Hmm... it seems less impressive than the first one somehow - maybe it's the music(?) - though there are some nice looking scenes. I'm eager to see some non-cut-scene footage though at some point....

Looked like a lot of that footage was gameplay to me, wasn't it?

I doubt it.

I think I'm gonna get really sick of that dude's accent if I have to hear it for 40 game hours.

the old trailer with the phillip glass music is hilarious. i havent watched the new one yet!!!

The Phillip Glass one is a parody (or homage perhaps?) of the Francis Ford Coppola produced film "Koyaanisqatsi". Once you realize this, it's the best game trailer of all time. Shot for shot, it's identical, and the soundtrack is the same.

All sorts of Koyaanisqatsi clips on youtube.

Wow, that is very similar!

i remember these, and now i only just realise Philip Glass did that ultra strange version of Bowies - Heroes. I heard it on an Aphex Twin album.

A lock box?

The idea that you're supposed to buy this sixty dollar game then buy two more episodes six months later to actually play the "complete" game is something that's really starting to grate on me. How much is this shit actually going to cost if you want to play the "full" game? 120 dollars?

Welcome to the next level of "high budget games"

See also: the insane rise of low-cost, "casual games" market. Coincidence? I think not.

Can somebody PLEASE confirm that there are no missions in this game where you have to use a forklift to load crates into the back of a truck?

lol OTM

Hahaha, I was drunkenly talking to a mate earlier tonight about fork lift truck missions! I purposely chose my real life job to avoid that sort of thing. I don't need it in my favourite games! See also the "airing books" section of Shenmue 2.

Plz to also avoid missions that involve aiming either rocket launchers or miniguns with a ps2 controller.

I would like that lockbox!

Delayed to somewhere between February and April 2008 :(

yep, just came here to say that.

http://ir.take2games.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=258238

I'm disappointed, but I guess I feel like there are so many other interesting looking games coming out this fall / winter, that it's not too big of a deal

Bioshock hits this month, so that ought to take care of some needs

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7278970&postcount=195

:( :( :(

bums

If I were God, I would have given the developers this idea: Once you complete 100%, then you unlock a PLAYSTATION in ur base that lets you replay any mission.

If I were me, I'd point out that NYC does not actually have brown air

That's such a damn good idea. There was a mission in San Andreas where you're jumping barrels in a plane, and if you fall out, it shows you landing on a car. I finished the mission in one go, so I've never been able to see this.

I hear the computer bar where you check your e-mail in IV is called tw@.

they almost cottoned onto this in Vice City Stories, where for the first time they let you replay the Rampages.

it would be a good idea though, saves me having to replay the whole game again. not that i'm complaining about that too much :)

So with a new trailer coming out in a week or so, do you think this game is back on track for a release in early 2008 (maybe by April)? Or are they going to drag this thing out till this time next year?

Was it ever off-track? i thought they made a statement just recently reiterating the timeframe. Not that they didn't do that in like August of this year, too. Occasionally I think about what it'll be like if this game comes out and it's broken or it sucks or it's been trumped by other games that came out during the delay... And I am really, genuinely embarrassed by how disappointed I feel by even the THOUGHT. Like, it hurts my feelings.

I am a grown man!

I'm very curious to hear some details on what kind of multiplayer stuff they're putting in there too. No info has been dribbled out so far, right?

What about the save system? Have any of the previews talked about that at all? Is there any chance that they've come to their senses and inserted a quick save - or at least checkpoints on the longer, multi-part missions? It really isn't fun having to completely repeat twenty or thirty minute long missions (speaking as somebody currently stuck on repeat with the last san andreas mission) over and over

Didn't San Andreas kind of do this, actually? You can skip past the earlier parts of long missions that you have to retry. And there's a checkpoint on the last mission too, although it's a long way in.

I only hit one checkpoint on GTA:SA, the mission with the Russians. There weren't even any taxi cabs with the arrows pointing to them.

Am I wrong in thinking that all you can skip is the drive to the mission (in SA? on ps2). When I die I almost always just reload, so you can't do the skip trip, but then it's quicker anyway since one still has all their weapons and everything (you lose 'em when you get out of the hospital, and then you still have to make your way back to the mission starting point too, I thought). It would be funny if just now I learned I was playing the game wrong - making it harder than it need to be. I've been trying to finish this game up finally, but now that I've finally made it to the last mission I'm losing the will. This morning was only my third try at it (first time died clearing out the third floor, second time died in the fire on my way back down) & after twenty five mnutes of work (not fun) I got to the point where you have to catch smoke dropping off the back of the firetruck and just couldn't catch up. Not sure I want to go through all that again (and possibly again and again)

you were so close...

Many of the missions have checkpoints. On the last mission, the checkpoint starts at the point when you're in the car, chasing the firetruck.

So if you hadn't reloaded, you could skip all of that stuff.

On the ps2? are you sure? how do you load to a checkpoint then?

I got to the firetruck. The last level was so long that, by the time I'd get to the firetruck, I would fail and then say "FUCK THIS GAME", and then automatically turn the PS2 off ... so I never discovered that the game had a checkpoint there. Oops.