CLUSTER: I have fallen in love with this band, please help

stupid to have 3 labels reissuing the same shit while roedelius solo albums remain oop

Captain Trip's Sowiesoso is supposedly a remastered version, but who knows? I think Water's released were remastered, too.

Agree with am0n. Does anyone know what the hell Captain Trip mean when they put "EMBARGO!" by Roedelius' Jardin Au Fou on their website? Just an awkward way of telling me "not for you!" or are they saying it's sold out? Does it mean that somewhere in the world (like, say, Japan) you can still get it? So frustrating!

Maybe I have to buff up my trade relations with Captain Trip before I get a copy.

Cluster (Moebius & Roedelius) performing live at Dampfzentrale Bern 15. September 2007 feat. Dorit Chrysler on Theremin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srrQ7jLjb24

including that last minute of solo Dorit wasn't the best way to end that montage, but rest of it sounds good to me

http://kraut-team.blogspot.com/2007/10/krautrockteam_7048.html

re: the authenticity of 'Cluster & Eno live Metz 1977' as discussed upthread - this sounds right to me

Greatings from Dennis in South Africa

I listened to the two 1977 pieces , with interest. I should perhaps first explain that I used to be in close personal contact with Hans Joachim Roedelius ( of Cluster ) through the late Seventies and early eighties. I immediately recognised the music and extracted my own tape out of my archives.

My recording was sent direct to me by Roedelius soon after the event. Please note it was performed by Cluster ( Moebius and Roedelius only ) without the involvement of Brian Eno. Also that it was recorded on the 23rd September 1977 , not during November. The music that was performed was from a concert at the Metz Sci Fi festival : in France , but quite some distance from Paris. The full recording is quite a bit longer than that uploaded.

...

Hope this helps to set the record straight

Thanks to Dennis

Conan

Apr 18 2008 8:00P Queen Elisabeth Hall London
May 10 2008 8:00P Palazzo Dei Congressi Rome
May 11 2008 8:00P Camber Sands Rye
May 16 2008 8:00P Detroit Institute of Arts Detroit
May 17 2008 8:00P Knitting Factory New York
May 22 2008 8:00P CINESPIA at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery Los Angeles
May 23 2008 8:00P Henry Miller Library Big Sur
May 24 2008 8:00P Brookdale Lodge Santa Cruz
May 25 2008 8:00P Great American Music Hall San Francisco

=(

Good lord of jesus, May in L.A.???!!!

*faints*

I was planning a trip to Hollywood in May! GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO!

isn't it Harmonia that are playing that tour, not Cluster?

unless you said that up thread and I'm lazy.

one of the 9 shows theyre doing is in detroit!!!! howd we manage that?!

Floristree
May, 18 2008 CLUSTER w/ Keith Fullerton Whitman, Daniel Higgs, Blues Control, Axolotl and more TBA
Not Available , Baltimore, Maryland
Cost :

<i> "Apr 18 2008 8:00P Queen Elisabeth Hall London" </i>

I am stoked about this concert.

so much that I am using expressions for excitement, not seen this side of the millennium.

or able to do italics properly.

Baltimore:

http://www.wildfirewildfirerecords.com/CLUSTERWEB.jpg

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=81708068&blogID=378857046

FLORISTREE SPACE IS PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE LINE-UP FOR THE INAUGURAL FULL HOUSE FEST. THIS ONE DAY EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE ON SUNDAY MAY 18TH IN THE HEART OF THE BEAUTIFUL PORT CITY OF BALTIMORE, MD. THE FESTIVAL WAS CURATED AROUND THE RARE US APPEARANCE OF KRAUTROCK/AMBIENT PIONEERS CLUSTER. THE RESIDENTS OF FLORISREE DECIDED THAT RATHER THAN HAVING A NORMAL SHOW, WE WOULD PAY HOMAGE TO THE IMPACT OF THESE LIVING LEGENDS BY CURATING A DAY-LONG EVENT THAT HIGHLIGHTS CLUSTER'S WIDE REACHING INFLUENCE AND SPIRIT IN CONTEMPORARY AMERICAN MUSIC. THE FESTIVAL WILL RUN FROM 4PM TIL MIDNIGHT WITH A SUNSET PERFORMANCE BY OUR GUESTS OF HONOR.

LINE-UP IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:

CLUSTER (kraut-rock legends)

BLUES CONTROL (Holy Mountain)

ERIC COPELAND (of Black Dice, Paw Tracks)

KEITH FULLERTON WHITMAN (Kranky)

DANIEL HIGGS (of Lungfish, Holy Mountain)

TICKLY FEATHER (Paw Tracks)

AXOLOTL (Important)

SUSAN ALCORN (Olde English Spelling Bee)

BLACK VATICAN (Locust)

AFTERNOON PENIS (of Mouthus)

CAGUAMAS (of The Peppermints, Paw Tracks)

PONCE ROCKET (Delaware)

ADVANCE TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW FOR $15 OR $20 AT THE DOOR. CAPACITY FOR THIS EVENT WILL BE KEPT AT 400.

already posted

oh wait, advance tickets? huh.

http://www.donutsparty.com/ac.html

the Berlin September 2007 live show is evidently being released on Important in one month

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HgNTo0XnL._SS260_.jpg

Cluster - "Berlin 07"

http://www.target.com/Berlin-07-Cluster/dp/B0017LFKYW

target?

even Target knew about the new Cluster album before I did

also looks like Schnitzler has a new group he's calling 'Kluster 2007', a bit iffy even if he was the founder of the original Kluster. Important's putting out two 1971 recordings by 'Kluster' (lineup Schnitzler / Freudigmann / Seidel) which is a little confusing because I thought that trio released under the name Eruption and Kluster had officially broken up after Roedelius & Moebius took off, but... well Schnitzler can do whatevers

http://fancymoon.com/mrs/index.php?c=14-

I'm still seething with disgust at my sluggish assed self for not getting it together to buy tickets for the harmonia south bank show, if anyone hears of a spare ticket, please post here

me too. as it is i'm considering going all the way to birmingham to see them in july instead...

still a little on-the-fence on Schnitzler calling these Kluster records instead of Eruption 1971 records. but I have to admit -- one of them, Vulcano, does sound a lot like the first 3 Kluster records -- recorded live with the same instruments and equipment. there's more atonal flute, and it takes about 20 minutes for them to really get going (out of 60+ total), but if you like the instrumental sides of the other Kluster, this is worth it.

the other one, Admira, is studio sessions, much higher fidelity. most tracks are purely space / textural sounds, though with recognizable instruments, drums / guitar / violin / organ. there's one straight-up krautrock track with drummer accellerandos, freakout guitar & everything. last twenty minutes are a weird open-string violin & delay solo spread across 5 tracks and it's beyond minimal, but interesting

I file the first three Kluster albums before my Cluster discs, but these are getting filed before the other Schnitzler discs

their website published some pretty interesting recollections about West Berlin psychedelia i.e. the music that later started getting called Krautrock, I wish these had been included in the packaging

http://www.importantrecords.com/releases/imprec180_release_page.htm
http://www.importantrecords.com/releases/imprec179_release_page.htm

I'm starting to get nervous about how the L.A. tickets haven't gone on sale yet. I'm trying to check www.donutsparty.com every day, but if someone more in-the-know hears that they have gone on sale, please post here or email me or something. Thanks.

got tix to see them at no fun fest so psyched

hello from DONUTS!! we finally nailed down the venue. it will take place at FARMLAB. tickets will go on sale very soon. we hope in the next few days! i'll post again when they're available. the big sur show still has some tickets remaining. if you're in the area - it would be an amazing show. Cluster in a redwood clearing under the stars by the ocean!!! donutsparty.com

love,
donuts

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donutsparty.com

their night of no fun = definitely the night to go... thinkin about it.

for teh record my favorite cluster is "sowiesoso" but i have great love for everything i've heard by them. except the vocal stuff with eno. but that's only a few tracks.

that's my fave as well. Very pastoral.

Yeah I think a long time ago I was adamant that Zuckerzeit & Sowiesoso were even, but now I think Sowiesoso takes it.

anyone else disappointed by the set at no fun fest? I'm more into the zuckerzeit/sowiesoso/harmonia material, so maybe that's why.

I did like how they were mad at the dj, though.

i had to leave about 30-40 minutes in but what i heard was really really cool. i was warned beforehand not to expect them to sound like zuckerzeit or whatever, so that probably helped.

Well what did they sound like then? Do tell!

they were mad at the DJ?
Peiter of Wierd??
I was too wasted after Demons to understand much of anything

yeah, I had to leave early too. it was just getting way too late. which was part of my problem. I think some of my disappointment could def be attributed to the sheer fatigue that sets in after having already spent hours in a crowded, smelly, enclosed space with noise bands playing the whole time!

and it is more than a little unfair to hope they'll sound like some record from 40 years ago. I think hearing that really outstanding harmonia live record that just surfaced this year set the bar too high in my mind. endlessly looping/permutating melodies and stuff. their set was very much not that.

I'd say they sounded closer to the kluster/early cluster material. mostly pretty dark with a couple pertty ambient bits here and there.

and yeah, they seemed to have gotten fed up with the music the dj was playing. kept gesturing for him to stop it but he seemed to be waiting for a song to play out, the word from someone to stop, or whatever. hard to tell what was going on but a bunch of people in the crowd kept looking back and forth between them and the dj. cluster looked grumpy. it was funny.

I actually thought the DJ was ace, but I can understand Cluster's grumpiness. Not the best idea to put on veterans of their age on in the middle of the night. Or veterans of my age in the audience for that matter!

yeah, by that time, I was pretty grumpy myself!

booking Cluster at No Fun was an interesting idea but I could tell that wasn't going to be the best environment for what they're doing now. on friday they're playing here, much more appropriate

even 30 years ago, live Cluster was all improv, they've never played songs from their records live. structurally the 'Metz 77' mp3 isn't that different than the new 'Berlin 07' CD, space music & textures. the new record has its moments, I love the goony rave music that kicks off the 2nd track

set last night in Chicago was awesome. They are a treasure.

worth $20 to see them? (keep in mind i'm pretty broke)

Pretty excited for the show tonight...

Hey Bus Driver Stu! Wanna hook up? I'm in Hollywood on vacation, looking forward to tonight...

I just emailed you through ILX...

Aw man, I didn't check this thread since yesterday morning. Totally missed your post, Bimble. Didn't get an email either.

Anyway, the show was awesome and Farmlab is the coolest venue I've ever been to. Also, Roedelius is huge.

Well I'm glad you liked it. I was bored senseless from the minute I got there.

no fun @ no fun fest. too many blips and bleeps, not enough kraut and rocking. huge letdown after all that waiting and religious knives shaking shit up right before. roedelius solo live is much more entertaining

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/folkyeah/2540447252_951be41580.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/folkyeah/2516531789_5617610fd9copy.jpg

I caught the Big Sur, Santa Cruz, SF & Aquarius shows. R had three CD players, a Nord Electro & FX, M had two CD players, a MicroKorg & a Kaosillator. some people were nervous at their use of CD players, but all four shows were completely different -- on the 96 tour, they were using DAT machines for playback with no cueing flexibility or varispeed, and this time around they've got quicker access to a much wider variety of CDRs, so many to choose from that each night had maybe 30% recognizable overlap, and even then every night they'd respond to the other's ingredients in completely different ways -- one night, for M's rave loop, R faded up layers of tibetan bowl hits, the next lay a melody over it with the Nord, the next a minor key pulsing drone

the 96 shows were attended by hardcore faithful, but those CD reissues have obviously made the rounds because these shows were packed with young kids expecting tunes, and probably not this degree of improv ambience. the Big Sur was the most diffused and scattered, no rhythm ever took over, but the constant left turns in the mix were so disorienting as to become hypnotic and the completely silent audience was drawn in (especially those who knew they'd signed up for an outdoor show and brought coats -- it was cold and some people were going under). in Santa Cruz they took the stage after 7 opening bands, all rock, and they played their quietest show to the loudest crowd -- if you speakerhugged, this set had the most keyboard playing from R. in SF the Great American was nearly sold out, 6-800 people -- halfway through the set, they finally met the hallwide chatter with fantastic waves of slowly building white noise and people stopped talking and started screaming for the sudden noise show -- they played for 85 minutes, and the encore was the peak of all 4 nights, noisy atonal cosmic pulse, digital return to 'Cluster II', jaws had been dropped as they left the stage. the Aquarius show was half as long as the other shows, the mellowest & maybe the deepest and definitely the most intimate -- everyone sat crosslegged on the floor, and they were right there in front of us

great projections by Alison Childs, 80's vintage vector computer graphics slowly spinning about, projected wide angle across the entire stage -- but particularly special at the Big Sur outdoor show, where she projected onto the trees behind the stage -- that first picture doesn't even begin to hint at what those grids looked like slowly converging and refracting off thousands of leaves, I realized that I hadn't seen anything quite like that before and perfectly fit the music.

obviously being a beyond-the-pale cluster fanboy I knew I was going to have a great time at these shows, and I was occasionally frustrated that they're of a size now that has them in venues not perfect for what they're currently doing. but I thought they were in fantastic form. and it was pretty easy to see that they seemed to be getting along beautifully.

That all sounds really cool, Milton. Buddy of mine was at the Big Sur show and he was very into it.