This Is The Thread Where We Praise And Canonize Paul McCartney's "Ram"

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Can't listen right now, but nice idea. I haven't ever heard Ram, i should probably track down the original before checking out your version anyway. Oh, and i've read that book, Tim, it's really good.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 April 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

the 2004 posts are nuts. i don't even like Macca all that much but Ram and his first album are great

are we human or are we dancer (m coleman), Monday, 5 April 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that is weird. I don't think the tide has turned on this album in the past few years; as far as I remember it's been considered a classic since the 80's at least. I dont' think it was super well received when it came out but that feeling didn't last long. maybe people were just feeling bad in 2004, what with bush being reelected and the world beginning to suck.

akm, Monday, 5 April 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Ram: the choice of the Obama generation.

Davey D, Monday, 5 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah pretty strange to see spittle-flecked contrarianism on ILM eh

its like the Stevie Wonder c/d thread where the first 100 posts are all people complaining about his sappy balladry

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 April 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice work thus far Davey D!

dlp9001, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

kudos on all those Dear Boy vocals! damn

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 April 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks! Just finished "Eat At Home," BTW.

Davey D, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.paulmccartney.com/web/guest/news/-/blogs/paul-and-linda-mccartney-s-legendary-album-ram-set-for-deluxe-reissue?_33_redirect=/web/guest&#p_33#top

RAM will be available across a variety of different formats:

Standard Edition: 1 CD digipak Single disc, digitally remastered 12- track standard edition

Special Edition: 2 CD digipak Remastered album and 8-track bonus audio CD including rarities, b-sides and the hit single, 'Another Day'.

Deluxe Edition Box Set: 4 CD/1 DVD box set & download Remastered album, bonus audio CD, remastered Mono album, Thrillington CD, bonus film DVD, 112 page book, 5 prints in vintage style photographic wallet, 8 full size facsimiles of Paul's original handwritten lyric sheets and mini photographic book of outtakes from the original album cover photo shoot.

Hi-Res: 24bit 96kHz files of the remastered and bonus audio CD, accessed via a download code inserted on a card within the deluxe edition package

Vinyl: 2LP 180gm, gatefold vinyl with download Remastered album, bonus audio disc plus digital download of all 20 tracks

Limited Edition Mono Vinyl: 1LP, Remastered mono album

Digital: RAM will be available for download across a variation of digital configurations including Mastered for iTunes and High Resolution


end of may

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Friday, 23 March 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

Right...

Mark G, Friday, 23 March 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

Love this album. So many memories of my grandmother's house in the South of France where she had this record (used to belong to my aunt). Of course, being French, she would mishear a lot of lyrics and on "Another Day" (Paul's single from the time) she scanned the chorus as going: "Sau-sage/Sau-sage/Sometimes I feel sau-sage"...

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 23 March 2012 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

I want that deluxe edition. I love, love, love this record, and did even as a kid. My father had it, and I think I wore out the binding opening and closing the gatefold cover. (Just as so many kids first hear "Yellow Submarine" as their gateway into the Beatles, I got into solo McCartney as a result of "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey.")

jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Friday, 23 March 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry I missed on the covers project, totally woulda been into that!

One of my friends suggested a full-LP "Ram" cover band for Halloween one year, which sounds like a dream.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 March 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

the backlash to the backlash!!!!!

http://www.pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16651-ram/

da croupier, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

Is not wrong.

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

Half the album is listenable but "Uncle Albert" was and remains a piece of shit – and I'm the guy who defends Press to Play.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

It's strange how UA/AH got to number one in the USA, but never even got released as a single here.

Also that "Back seat of my car" (which is great), only got to 37 or thereabouts. Were the great UK public really so bored of McCartney then?

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ Drunk talk, you'll regret that later

Bought the deluxe version of this with a gift card I had sitting around from Xmas. It sounds terrific, I've always loved this album. (My dad had it when I was a kid, and I remember hearing it a lot in like 1974-75). The accompanying disc with the singles from the same period is great as well, and mastered so well that, e.g., I hear backing harmonies in "Another Day" that I've never heard before, and I've heard that song at least a hundred times.

it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

er xp to Alfred, not Mark G

it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

oh I love "Another Day," which nails the domestic vibe that John kinda misses in "Just Like Starting Over."

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

#26 on the midweeks.

Too late for me, however, I did this review some while back with only the ancient vinyl original to hand.

I like the 'Uncle Albert' part of UA/AH, but I've never really been keen on the 'Admiral Halsey' part.

I've always had a fondness for Ram, although it's probably my 5th favourite McCartney album overall.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

I always thought "Hands across the water" was pretty damn brilliant myself.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

this album is amazing front-to-back imho

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

third best Beatle solo album behind ATMP and Imagine

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, Ram is really, really great. I grabbed a bunch of his other solo stuff based on the awesomeness of Ram and was kind of bummed that it's head and shoulders above the rest (there's some decent stuff on McCartney and McCartney II, and a few Wings songs that grab me, but nothing so consistently fantastic as Ram).

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't checked the credits lately but isn't the first and last Macca album until TOW to feature session men? Does he play that terrific bass lick in "Too Many People"?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Paul plays everything on this record, except for some random shit (vox/keybds) credited to Linda. He recorded it at home.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

for someone so often pilloried for his sentiment and cloyingly obvious lyrics, it's funny how much of this album's lyrics are elliptical proto-nonsense. nothing is expressed in a very straightforward matter, everything is buried in a lot of goofy stoner imagery

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

matter manner

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

but Hugh McCracken, Dave Spinozza, etc are in the credits.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Paul plays everything on this record, except for some random shit (vox/keybds) credited to Linda. He recorded it at home.

Yeah, no. He recorded it at CBS Studios in New York, with Denny Seiwell on drums, the guitar guys listed above by Alfred, and orchestra overdubs arranged by George Martin.

it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

In the book in the deluxe edition, Seiwell says he got a call from his booking place about an audition, showed up to discover Paul and Linda in some craphole studio with just a drum set, and Paul asked him to play various beats -- straight rock, a shuffle, something funky, etc. All unaccompanied. He just wanted to hear the dude play.

it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

hmm maybe I was thinking of McCartney I

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah he played everything on that one

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

whatever shakey, we know you've never even heard Ram before

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

THAT WAS YOUR FIIIIRST MISTAKE

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

that jayson greene review is wonderful! the paragraph on 'Smile Away' in particular, the track at the heart of the album, the self-consciously rockin' track that is almost annoyingly cute until it starts to dawn on you that this is a very odd person's way of tell you that he's actually already on the other side of being very pissed off

I am heading to the store to buy the 2CD of this and it had better already be there

Milton Parker, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

/telling you

Milton Parker, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

if not, smile on!

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno man, I rate Band On The Run, Venus And Mars, Flowers In The Dirt and Chaos And Creation In The Backyard over this one. With Flaming Pie and the very underrated Back To The Egg very very closely behind Ram. His weakest releases for me are: Wild Life, Wings At The Speed Of Sound and that run from 1983-1986 which I'd consider to be the 'dud stage' of his solo career (Pipes, Broadstreet, Press To Play), although there's one or two admittedly sterling tracks on these.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

right there
that's it
YES

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

I take issue with 'Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey' being branded one of McCartney's five best solo songs... fucking hell, no. Don't agree with that whatsoever. At all.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing makes me happier than infuriating the sententious, smug likes of Jon Landau and Dave Marsh and while I'm glad the Admiral Halsey part Killed The Sixties Dream it doesn't mean I have to relive it.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

right there
that's it
YES

― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I don't mind 'Press' at all, even though it took me quite some time to warm to it. I'm still not a massive fan of the production values on the whole album, though!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

I've always felt like "Big Barn Bed" from Red Rose should have been on this album as well. I mean, it kind of is, but it should have been on it for real...

dlp9001, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, you can hear a snatch of it at the end of 'Ram On (Reprise)'... I keep forgetting about that. I remember reading at some point or another that Red Rose Speedway was meant to be a double album!?!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

I never really got into this one on my own, but over the past year friends of mine (from different ends of my friendship spectrum, strangely enough) have been throwing it on during hangouts, leading me to believe it's been gaining some canon-momentum (or whatever) within the past few years. "Heart Of The Country" and "Ram On" stand out for me as pretty great and would've been worthy of placement on a Beatles LP that never happened.

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah – it's been a sleeper for years. A Macca CD-R a friend burned for me in 2001 had practically the whole album.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

an alternate universe where young Paul skipped church the morning of July 6, 1957

wtf how do people know this shit

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

'hey diddle; is indeed great, love this record but hadn't listened to unreleased cuts. 'rode all night' is downright weird

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link


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