thing about nikki is theres a bunch of things about her that u mention that make me want to give a shit -- like, im rooting for her, objectively -- but aesthetically the music really isnt doing it for me. i dont like the rap shes taking cues from as it is -- havent been feeling lil wayne tracks for a couple years
Well no one said you had to love Nicki to not be sympathetic to the rock and the hard place female rappers go through. Or a matter of fact black female artists go through as a whole. I think between this and Erykah Badu's Window Seat Video I'm finding it increasingly annoying how a black women need to limit themselves to be acceptable. If you stray artistically a little bit you get lambasted for it. Or in Nicki's and Erykah's case a long mile and you really hear the complaining. I say whether you like them or not, it should be encouraged that they take these risks even if they fail.
yeah one on hand i think it was good for her to get out of nyc rap circles, but on the other hand i agree that being around wayne/young money has been a detriment to her as a rapper qua rapper (as a potential pop star or personality or w/e might be a different story) -- like, i'm not sure if i'll ever like a nicki verse more than her one on drought 3
I totally disagree with this statement. I felt like if Nicki stayed in NYC her name wouldn't get out of the city. NYC hip hop isn't as dominant as it once was so how could she be a potential pop star with a region that has long been declining in popularity. Also who knows whether the Young Money style would last another year. I frankly don't care because I'm enjoying it right now. I think its comical, fun, and the crew seems to be having fun with it. If it wasn't for Young Money I wouldn't be listen to hip hop again honestly. After my "back packer" phase and having to suffer through the 50 Cent's domination, I needed something ridiculous to pull me back in. However, I do think Nicki has potential to break out of the Young Money mold, just her timing has to be right. But time will tell for that.
― lilsoulbrother, Monday, 5 April 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I felt like if Nicki stayed in NYC her name wouldn't get out of the city. NYC hip hop isn't as dominant as it once was so how could she be a potential pop star with a region that has long been declining in popularity.
wait, this is what i said
I think its comical, fun, and the crew seems to be having fun with it.
this is true for college improv comedy troupes, but that doesn't make me want to watch them
having to suffer through the 50 Cent's domination
i think it goes w/o saying that g-unit > young money in every conceivable fashion
― jihad mane (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Well matter of opinion and different experiences. What are you going to do?
― lilsoulbrother, Monday, 5 April 2010 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
post to a message board
― jihad mane (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha true but before I go to bed (another thing I can do):
There is nothing wrong with listen to music to have a good laugh.
G-unit is/were such a joke I couldn't fathom how they could be popular.
― lilsoulbrother, Monday, 5 April 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
but just to be clear, youre repping for young money
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Monday, 5 April 2010 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I am so what? They're fun to go to to after listening to something introspective and/or serious sounding.
― lilsoulbrother, Monday, 5 April 2010 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link
but then otoh i'm not sure what an accurate minaj solo song would even be like tbh.
this is kinda key! i disagree that she's just a "force of affectation"; obv it's hard to separate her image from her on-record presence but the latter is a lot more varied than you're all crediting her for - i find her pretty chameleonic, her persona's taken a lot of twists and turns over the past year, and it's increasingly obvious that this flux is intentional, and she's going to keep on doing it. i found "massive attack" kinda surprising actually - both more weird (disorientating beat where one could've maybe expected autotune barf) and less weird (no trace of cutesiness, "wacky" voices kept to a minimum) than i'd been anticipating. and we already know she can pull off weird dubstep beats ("saxon") and dancehall queen vibes ("beam me up scotty'). right now i literally have no idea where she plans on going from here, and that makes her career really compelling to follow. she has a real sense of event, too - sometimes you get a bit sick of these amazing gucci mane verses and tracks just dribbling out on to the internet.
in terms of the visuals the "massive attack" video is a pretty obvious continuation of the brash, bewigged image she's been pushing more and more, right? don't think she looks any more out of place in it than she ever has done. i'm really enjoying it actually - it's striking, imaginative, kinda unprecedented in (female) hip-hop, missy apart (and she was always a huge unreplicable exception). actually nicki generally is pretty unprecedented.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 5 April 2010 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link
and i'll just say again - i'm lukewarm-to-cold on the records she gets the most criticism for ("lil freak", "up out my face", "bedrock"), but in the same timeframe she's also done really stellar guest spots on cassie's "fuck u silly", mya's "ponytail", lloyd's "take it off"...
went back to her "feel free" remix yesterday, that one's such an all-timer for me!
hopped off the boat, i'm such an immigrantwhy he get nicki minaj tatted on his ligamentwait - just for the record, i get wetter than fishermenpull up with some 26s up under the michelinsyou know i pop-pop-pop it like a pistolthat's how i keep my wrists lookin' like a discoand everywhere i go they tell that i'm prettymy money slow, money stupid, money ditzymami you bad, but nicki is badderstep your cookies up, go get you a ladderwe do it early like cheerios and a bageli feel freer than the slaves on the railroad
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 5 April 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link
oh did i studdaharajuku hyphenbarbieim hot i think its time to put the rice in
^^someone plz unpack this for me
― so pure, such an expression (Stevie D), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
it's about the rice
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Killin' em like chemical weapons...RICIN
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
when you was in new york you was fuckin' the yankeesi was fuckin' with bass, i was pitchin' a frankiethese bitches so cranky, give 'em a hankybut mommy i'm cold, gimme my blankyflyer than a kite, i get higher than rapunzelkeep the snow white, i can buy her by the bundlestep your cookies up 'fore they crumbledon't be actin' like the cardinals and gon fumblecuz i'm a steeler, fresh up out the dealerall the dope boys gon fear her, flow so sick i need a healerfuck is my mac concealer?i be out in queens in the back of 4-wh-wh-wh-wh-wheelersi'm a big girlthat's why i get more head than a pigtailput some ranch on, i'm gettin' the munchiesi think i'll have a rap bitch for my entréeand they be thinkin' they can spit-spit-shine my shoesyou know i keep a bad bitch, let me sign your boobsi'm the only thing hoppin' like a kangarooi mean the only thing poppin' like a can o' brewlisten! you should buy a 16 cuz i write it goodan 808, woof woof cuz i write it goodand bitches can't find they man cuz i ride it goodi'm the wolf, WHERE IS LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD?and if you see an itty bitty piggy in the marketgive that bitch a quarter and a car, tell her park iti don't fuck with pigs like as-salamu alaykumi put 'em in the field and let oscar meyer bake 'em
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
her verse on "mi casa, su casa"/"coca coca" is pretty sick
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 April 2010 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link
so Nicki's playing this club in South Amboy, NJ two Sundays from now and tickets cost $90, WHAT THE FUCK.
― limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Saturday, 29 May 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i got an offer to go see summerjam and just couldn't handle the thought of the busride to the meadowlands with the fans
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 29 May 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i really love her verse on xtina's "woohoo", which is about the only worthwhile thing on the mess that is xtina's new album. "left from jamaica, go a foreign conTOUR" <3 <3
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 29 May 2010 08:34 (thirteen years ago) link
forks are u more racisty or sexisty??
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Saturday, 29 May 2010 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link
As psychotic as it sounds, that's almost in the ballpark of typical for club rap shows - also, it's pretty much a guarantee that she'll start 90 minutes late and perform 5 songs.
― Becky Facelift, Saturday, 29 May 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
brilliant observation deej; I see you've gone and earned your ad hominem merit badge. wear that with pride.
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 29 May 2010 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link
lol it was a joke dude
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
oh. i was genuinely butthurt on that one.clearly my actual sexy racism motivating my things white people like guilt
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
it was an horribly formed joke, probably fair to be annoyed by it
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
it was 5am and i was drunk. mea culpa
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
plus i hung out w/ john d recently so
her "all I do is win" verse is dope
ask the irs, I'm payin for your health care
― gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I look like YES and you look like NO
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 10 June 2010 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^
― teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
"Knockout" with her and Wayne is incredibly bad. Wayne and smug, slurring autotune over Avril covering some random old MxPx song
― m@tt h (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
this verse & accompanying slice of video is 25% dope, 25% awful, 25% rofl & 25% I KNEW LEFT EYE, AND YOU, MA'AM, ARE NO LEFT EYE
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i felt really bad for her about "knockout" -- obviously there is no way she can turn down wayne if he asked for a feature, and i'm sure she was just praaayyyying that it didn't get selected as one of the songs for video, cuz that shit is embarrassing
my xp refers to http://www.thefader.com/2010/06/21/video-diddy-f-rick-ross-nicki-minaj-hello-good-morning-rmx/
also lol @ whoever directed that video not even bothering to match up nicki's mouth with the verse
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I understand why everyone hates this girl, and most of the people I've introduced her to have switched teams and now find her grating, but I just cannot stop loving her. I think it's just the little subtleties (the way she moves her face, her attitude and delivery, etc.)
― cynthia batter blaster (Stevie D), Monday, 21 June 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i think if they were actually "subtleties" people would find her a lot less grating
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^otm
― k3vin k., Monday, 21 June 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
was gonna say
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 June 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
ok subtleties is totally not the right word. Nuances maybe? The sort of things I can't really put my finger on. I mean, it's not things like "Alexander McQueen's got a wrist on glow"
― cynthia batter blaster (Stevie D), Monday, 21 June 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i think "embellishments" might be a better word
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes!! That is much better.
― cynthia batter blaster (Stevie D), Monday, 21 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, June 21, 2010 5:47 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it's seriously blowing my mind that in your imagination Nicki Minaj can discern between Lil Wayne's bad tacky ideas and his good ones
― neal page (some dude), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
You might be right but she doesn't even attempt to sell that video the way stuff does other stuff
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
that knockout video is really something else
love her verse on the drake album though!
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
oh and 'your love' is pretty great too. kinda problematic how easy it is to forget it's supposed to be her big single right now, though?
anyway i think i met him in the skywhen i was a geisha he was a samuraisomehow i understood him when he spoke thai
historical liberties aside, i like what she's doin thur
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
"embellishments" is a much kinder word than "affectations", which could also work
historical liberties aside
lol, minaj has never exactly been accurate in her references. "i be out in china spendin yenz'z'z"
i hate "your love" and it's weird to me that it's somehow become her first proper hit - i really hope she doesn't pursue this route any further
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link
the lyrics, my god, the lyrics
― I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"bottoms up" video! you know, i really like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mcUOO4jKU
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 08:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i will say that i far prefer the betty boop voice to the, um, other voice
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link
she is so smashable right now, rawr
― dyao, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this one's a minor classic imo. mmts and nicky complement each other well.
really like the production too, sounds simliar to the lil c 'rubberband banks' type beats young dro & grand hustle were coming out with a while ago.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link