awww Lil Ailsa saying her prayers.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 April 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
That was medium awesome
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Wish he'd taken the 8 yr old version with him, she'd have been a fantastic companion.
Though to be fair I wouldn't have really really fancied her the way I do with the one he did take. Er, obviously.
― JimD, Saturday, 3 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
He's playing it a bit close to tennant though, so far.
BEST DOCTOR EVER (just countering all the moaners)
the bit where the camera revealed the door had opened was classic Moffat, kinda wish they had stuck to keeping it on that smaller ghost story level instead of extending the threat to the whole planet. interesting that we never actually saw Amy's Aunt. was there one arc meme dropped ("silence will fall") or two (something about "Pandorum"?)? not enough sarcastic Olivia Coleman despite the extra episode length. but totally good enough.
― mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Already said BEST DOCTOR EVER to the fam. I think the silence and the Pandoracle(?) were connected.
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i forgot when it was happening so only joined it at the what-do-tiggers-like-best bit (although: 'you're scottish, aren't you? fry something!' heeeeeee) but oh oh that was so fun!
― drama queen woman candidate (c sharp major), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
new graphics: goodnew music: terrible, shocker (altho i do appreciate the attempt to re-introduce some synthetic sounds, a bit)
― mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
WILD SPECULATION: Amy's aunt is River Song. They've both got red hair, River could have been off adventuring in time and space instead of looking after Amy the night Amy met the Doctor, er River / Pond... *shuffles feet*
WILDER SPECULATION: Amy is the young River! OMGWTFBBQ etc
Anyway, I really enjoyed that, although Smith does seem to be playing a bit Tennant so far. Hopefully he'll do more to put his own stamp on the role. The Who Bingo cards upthread were disappointingly OTM in several places :(
― mister_thoth, Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Have considered the possibility that Amy will somehow become River at some point, yeah. But iirc Alex Kingston shd be on dis ting at some point during the series??
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Considering Moffat's love of the wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff I could see River and Amy being on screen together. Possibly without Amy (or the audience) realising River is her future self for maximum poignancy further down the line.
Does seem a bit predictable for Moffat's style, though...
― mister_thoth, Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Gotta say that if that rottweiler had spoken it would've pushed this episode even higher up the auspicious beginnings chart
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha, the same thought occurred to me. I'll give S-Moff the benefit of the doubt and assume the budget didn't stretch to it.
― mister_thoth, Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I already regret "S-Moff", tbh.
also he wd probably have permanently scarred many, many children
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
More than this atrocity did?
http://www.doctorwhoworld.org.uk/Images/sitegraphics/kandyman.jpg
Shirley not!
― mister_thoth, Saturday, 3 April 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ok amy growing up into river song would be an absolute fucking travesty? i mean not only for the sheer laziness - like the whole 'sally sparrow for new companion!!' tedium, why is it any time there's a charming female character dudes are like 'let's stop at this one'? But also, I can't put this all that clearly, but there is something fundamentally awesome in "girl has an imaginary friend at seven, and then he turns out to be real and they go on adventures" which would be smothered by "oh and she becomes his most trusted boon companion 51st century kickass archaeologist river song".
― drama queen woman candidate (c sharp major), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, I did say it was wild speculation - and predictable. Moffat's a much smarter writer than that.
I like the setup for Amy's relationship with the Doctor a lot, even if it does have a bit of a hint of "The Girl In The Fireplace" about it. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Moffat does with this series.
― mister_thoth, Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
There was some quite "Girl in the Fireplace"-y music playing during the slow reveal of the house after his first "brb" moment
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
oh no that probably means there's a whole bunch of nobs "predicting" that Amy is also Madame Pompadour then...
― mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Like it. Like him - less in your face, less gurning. Like the time afforded for calm sections - the freneticism of RTD/David Tennant got wearing on the nerves. Like the fairy tale element. Like what perhaps were little references to the previous reign? (DT being made to have an English accent/Amelia Pond goes from English to Scottish + instead of the RTD tv news channels across the world thing, just tuning the radio).
Liked the early childhood scenes.
Music was terrible.
― Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
deliberately rendering the screwdriver and the TARDIS useless was the biggest nod to the previous regime I think
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
new Tardis possibly a wee bit Steampunk for my liking
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, good point about the screwdriver and tardis, it was good that bit. And less needless sudden grinning as well, that used to drive me spare about both Ecclestone and Tennant.
― Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 3 April 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Wee! Loved! Enjoyed the 'corner of your eye' stuff...Moff's so good with the stuff-of-nightmares stuff. And the build up to fish custard was lovely. And Amelia Pond has a nice edge to her as well as being incredibly gorgeous. Got a faint hint of Donna shoutiness in her, which I hope comes out a bit more.
But all round exciting good fun. Ripping stuff!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 3 April 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I am very much not stoked for the new series. Matt Smith is, let's face it, not David Tennant. In any way. I keep telling myself "b-b-but Steven Moffat", but it's not working. I may well not feel like this on Saturday night, I know.
OMG how wrong was I? <3 Matt Smith already. Slightly driven to distraction by Amy's accent (which, as someone who left Inverness and only goes back into full-on accent in the presence of other Invernessians, is a rubbish and massively hypocritical criticism), but otherwise, great.
Yes, that was remarked upon here. How the hell do you know what I looked like when I was that age?
"You're Scottish - fry stuff" = top lolz.
Alex Kingston was in the "coming soon" trailer, btw. As was James Corden, Bill Nighy and Meera Syal, who are evidently less spoilertastic.
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno, James Corden spoiled it for me
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I suspect any Tennantisms in Matt Smith are down to - or could be plausibly attributed to - the Doctor being in a transitional phase. I think there was enough evidence that he will become less Tennanty as the series progresses.
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Tell you what I really loved: no big regen crisis! (aside from a bit of a bellyache). First new doctor story we've had without some "he's amnesiac/asleep/insane/whatever" since...tom baker?
― JimD, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I liked that too (though the pre-credits OMG-I-can't-control-the-TARDIS bit gave me the fear, thankfully wrongly).
New title sequence was horrible, btw.
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
real test when it comes down to the normal time. i know there was a lot of info to put into this one, but the episode had time to actually breathe, which was sorely missing in RTD days.
― Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
So, that bingo card: I make it yesses on:
Geronimosecondary character spouts cryptic prophesyShadow Proclamation namecheckedRun!Flashback or recap of regeneration (if show of doctors counts to that)Amy gets tour of TARDISAlien invasion on the news (was it on the news or just on telly?)Doctor admires his own reflection (nicely done!)Shapeshifting alien is a dog (whoever did these cards has seen this, right?)Aliens take over earth communications devices blah blahswirly blue vortex in new title sequence O NO RLY?
So, not that many, but a good few. Some obvious ones not done. Yet.
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
btw, has the TARDIS always had a mezzanine floor?
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
err...
http://imgur.com/NOFTQ.jpg
http://imgur.com/4WONJ.jpg
So either the Tardis caused the cracks in time and space, or the thing making the cracks is also inside the Tardis?
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Or that's two wobbly lines of different shapes?
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:01 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark
maybe he dies? got to look on the bright side.
― joe, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
hopefully something prolonged and undignified
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Tell you what I really loved: no big regen crisis!
The bit where Sophie Peep Show turned into him and he was all "WTF is that? Oh right, is that what I look like?" was nicely done. I did also really appreciate the lack of Tennant, making a clean break was really good (as a firm "OMG not going to be the same without him" Tennant stan, it seemed so much easier to put him behind me and get with Matt Smith).
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Also the completely rubbish Patrick Moore cameo.
― ailsa, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I wonder whether aldo hated it.
― JimD, Sunday, 4 April 2010 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"Kiss-o-gram," eh??
― Daleks in NYC (Leee), Sunday, 4 April 2010 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Bingo also:Nobody diesTARDIS referred to as she (he called her sexy)
Is Patrick Moore the new Churchill-looking PM of the UK?
― Daleks in NYC (Leee), Sunday, 4 April 2010 06:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Slightly farther to the Right than Churchill iirc
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 April 2010 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link
dug Matt Smith, really good to have someone new in the role. loved Tennant but I hadn't realized just how annoying his angsty doctor had gotten towards the end.
only thing i hated was music and title sequence. which bums me out cause i really like the new logo.
― Roz, Sunday, 4 April 2010 08:06 (fourteen years ago) link
As good a debut as I could have hoped for! Really enjoyed it, Matt Smith was very Tennant-esque, but I think he'll get more room to stretch his legs very soon and he was nonetheless quite entertaining. Amy was really cute, trademark Moffatt lurking horror and time jump stuff being very cool and looking forward to more! (I am enthused.)
― Nhex, Sunday, 4 April 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Gah I'm away for the weekend and can't watch this but there's total anticipation building now that seemingly everyone likes it.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 4 April 2010 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link
That conference call/Jeff stuff was a bit sketchy tho. Actually it was baloney, but I think you can excuse that sort of thing if the tone was good.
Also not sure about the Johnny 5 Alive! 'what have I missed' bit on the village green.
― Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Sunday, 4 April 2010 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I welcomed the use of a village setting, maybe because it feels more trad Who than the now over-used inner city London tower blocks of the nu-Who. It helps give the series a different feel. It's less trying to be 'relevant to the kids of today', which was always kind of hopeless.
Little Amelia was great, though I don't really agree she would've made a good companion, just for boring practical reasons I suppose. She would be too much of a burden in tight corners, too dependant on the Doctor. Plus Amy is saucy.
As an opener it was typically flashy, and a touch hyperactive, but Matt Smith hit the ground running imo, and I'm looking forward to more of Moffat's dark fairytale take.
― Duke Newsom (DavidM), Sunday, 4 April 2010 11:21 (fourteen years ago) link
started groaning at the so-overdone 'all that amazing stuff that happened' and then proper lol'd at the 'that was two years ago!'.
― Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Sunday, 4 April 2010 11:45 (fourteen years ago) link