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all the same Skream and DMZ as fractured??? Howso sir?

All dubstep sounds fractured to me to a certain extent. Always tripping over itself and creating angular grooves. Skream falls into this paradigm for me - while he might sound non-jittery and so on, I think even 'Monsoon' or 'Request Line' would sound less so mixed into a different genre...

I agree, 'Boys Love Girls' is a 'fractured' sounding track. But it's such an exceptional record!

In any case, Burial is much more melodic and non-jittery than anything in dubstep or grime. The Germanic Basic Channel/Pole axis on the sound is an innovative approach I think. The point is to find a new synthesis, which requires reducing certain aspects associated with the London underground.

Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

third eye foundation?

this shit sounds like enigma w/o the hot beats and tight samples. at least enigma is catchy and gets heads nodding. i forgot what this sounded like two seconds after i took it off. all i could remember was the afterimage of a train whistle, ghostly fragments of bad ethnic samples and the overwhelming aftertaste of rainswept windshields and sodium lights. fuck that, this is what you get when you combine corny dead poets gothisms + the sound of a deep forest album at 33 rpm.

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i forgot what this sounded like two seconds after i took it off. all i could remember was the afterimage of a train whistle, ghostly fragments of bad ethnic samples and the overwhelming aftertaste of rainswept windshields and sodium lights

Hmm... these are exactly the reasons why I love the record.

Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

really? because i was trying to be as corny-british-blogger as possible about it when i said that. what's the aftertaste of a rainswept windshield like?

and STFU about basic channel, people. teh fact that a dubstep album spends time aiming for something that shits on it from a great height doesn't make it worth listening to.

burial is worthwhile because he namechecks basic channel? what's next, i listen to matisyahu because he's got good taste in reggae?

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

and STFU about basic channel, people. teh fact that a dubstep album spends time aiming for something that shits on it from a great height doesn't make it worth listening to.

You can't be serious.


Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually the better reason to be a bit sceptical about the basic channel connection is that it's not particularly new - I'm not sure how Burial is any more basic channel than Horsepower Productions already were on stuff like "Gorgon Sound".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

It's been a while since I've listened to Horsepower. Perhaps I should revisit. I remember a lot of BC comparisons being thrown about when that first record came out.

Perhaps Pole is a more significant reference point from Burial.

Michael Dieter (Mika), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

no one in current dubstep has a bass sound as good as horsepowers.

there, i said it. i feel better now. i'll get me hat.

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This certainly seems to have been overhyped something awful. Of all the dubstep I've been listening to lately, which admittedly is not so much - Skream's Stella Sessions and Skreamizms, some Loefah, Zomby, Blackdown - this is the weakest. Neither superior headphone listening, certainly not something I'd like to hear out and no more 'redolent of the decaying asphalt of the urban landscape of Ken Livingston's London' or whichever poetic trope one wishes to employ, than other things out there.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Like Dub, i get the feeling Dubstep would sound best on stupidly large speakers in the street with the bass reverberating of buildings..

So does anyone know if there's going to be any sound systems playing Dubstep at notting hill carnival this year?

jk_ (jk@gabba), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That's an interesting one... Dubstep on a heavy system works very very well indeed, the empty spaces consumed with juddering bass-mass... I hope Digital Mystiks are on this idea of some torn-bassbin action come carnival time...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

not carnival but there's some festival action this year @ Bestival

Skream
Appleblim & Shackleton
Digital Mystikz & Sgt Pokes
Kode 9
Various Production

fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I've come to the final conclusion that "Southern Comfort" is the only track on this record that I really like. :(

fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that's a tad harsh, there's at least two worthwhile tracks!

jimnaseum - music to make you staga (jimnaseum), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"You Hurt Me" perchance?

Yeah that break is fine, but that's about it. I don't dis-like the rest of it, it's just kind of there.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"You Hurt Me" perchance?

Aye.

jimnaseum - music to make you staga (jimnaseum), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not surprised people want broken beat music that's empty, vast, emotional and dubby.

but compare burial's album to something like phoenicia's "brownout" and you'll see that burial is very, very subpar.

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 22 July 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

>Actually the better reason to be a bit sceptical about the basic >channel connection is that it's not particularly new - I'm not sure how >Burial is any more basic channel than Horsepower Productions already >were on stuff like "Gorgon Sound".

-- Tim Finney, July 21st, 2006.

eh, crackle!

Brian Best (ukb), Saturday, 22 July 2006 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Horsepower and El-b et al were all pretty crisp and hi-fi, there was no sense of that obfuscating reverb'n'crackle aesthetic was there?

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 22 July 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

For sheer atmosphere alone, I fail to see how anyone could not be impressed with this album. It reminds me at times of some of my favourite moments by David Sylvian, like bits of the first Massive Attack album got together with that...

Fandango, regardless of your opinion on Burial, I really think you should hear SAW II. I'm tempted to say everyone should hear SAW II, but I do realize that's probably stretching it.

Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Sunday, 23 July 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I should too! Some things just manage to slip by ...

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 23 July 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The notion of "Southern Comfort" being the only good track on there is kinda weird to me. Such a boring beat!

I would put all the vocal tracks ahead of it.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i was actually listening to one of horsepower's vocal tracks today (not "one u need," the other one) and they have such an odd bass sound. it's not oozy or dread like modern dubstep. it's, like someone said above, very clean and strobing...kind of this very clean, rounded pulse that throbs throughout.

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the other one Jess? Was it one of the Turn-U-On tracks?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

gah maybe "electro bass"? (did that have vox? this is where making mix cds with no tracklisting bites you in the ass.) the vocal element is quite minimal really. it might be a dub.

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I was saying on Dissensus the other day that someone really needs to compile and release all the Ghost, Shelflife and Turn-U-On tracks - now that would leave the Burial album for dead.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

that whole era is so undocumented/collected. i probably have most of them spread across a dozen cd-r's, but such an amazing moment (what...18, 24 months tops?) that's practically forgotten already!

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

"Givin' Up On Love" has female vox, I think. There were only two Turn U On releases, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't that "One You Need" though? Or maybe I'm getting confused. Either way it's brilliant.

Oris Jay's "Brand Nu Flava" had a similar sick-with-love vibe. (sigh) so many of those producers went crap!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

see, i know fuck all about grime and dubstep and would probably have ignored this. but what with y'all wittering about this and the reference points sounding good, i bought it. and, halfway through the first listen, it's pretty damn immense. so hey, thank you ILM.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 24 July 2006 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha! Good to know you're on board, grimly. I was so close to emailing you about this one but I guess I wasn't sure if you'd appreciate it or not.

Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Hm. Well it's all right, I guess.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like there's way more Monolake in this than Basic Channel or Pole somehow...

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

or maybe not :/ this one track "Invisible" off Polygon Cities was reminding me of his sound a bit, it's sequenced in a slightly off-the-beat garage-ish way.

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Apparently, there's a new Burial album on the way in the first half of 2007 (source: hyperdub boss Kode9 on Belgium's Studio Brussel radio station last week).

Also: check this out: Burial's remix of Jamie Woon's Wayfaring Stranger (fourth track here: http://www.myspace.com/jamiewoon ) - out at the end of this month on Live Recordings (has been played by Mary Anne Hobbs on Radio 1 a couple of times already, it seems).

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 7 January 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't The Wire call this their #1 album of the year?

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i've never got to the end of this record.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Holy Shit!

Hype hype hype and then it turns out to be fantastic!

I had no idea. I could play Broken Home on repeat for hours... I really should have been paying more attention to this whole dubstep thing, but then there's only so much hours in the day and essays have to be handed in and I only get so much time off work and...

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually this is kind of weird that this thread is bumped just now because I'm on a Death In June trip again which is why I ended up finding this thread in the first place!

Still despite the fact that Death In June have nothing at all to do with the Burial this thread is dedicated to, I still stand by the album and look forward to the rumoured next Burial album due this year.

Booper Soul (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Jamie Woon - Wayfaring Stranger (Burial Remix)

this track is up on Hype Machine now. it's been on repeat for hours. get it asap.

cizzzy (brother loves dub), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Burial is a pretty shitty Death in June lp.

Burial sounds like an instrumental version of Tricky's 3rd album.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i've never got to the end of this record.

-- jed_

although I have, jed is closet to my feelings about 'Burial' overall.

about:coffee (fandango), Monday, 5 February 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
New atmospheric track on his myspace: Endorphin

http://www.myspace.com/burialuk

StanM, Monday, 2 April 2007 08:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i could not get thru this album either and it annoyed me

SusanD, Monday, 2 April 2007 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Could someone please point me to that obscured or whatever photo of Burial?

W4LTER, Sunday, 16 December 2007 07:12 (sixteen years ago) link

There are some in this month's issue of the Wire.

jim, Sunday, 16 December 2007 12:31 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/347/

willem, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

There's another picture in the magazine, he's all shadowy and you can make out that he's wearing a beanie and has long curly hair (somewhat unsurprisingly).

jim, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link

"I've only listened to it twice in full, but I think the album as a whole doesn't quite live up to its best tracks - i wish the whole thing had abandoned virtual-reality-divas moaning in anguish all over it, but it's only a couple of times and very fleeting!

-- Tim Finney (Tim Finney)"

so i'm guessing you loved the new one? i cant remember if you were posting in that thread or not.

pipecock, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link


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