New Order - Technique

this needs remastering.

They all do!

they sound ok to me

just turn it up, fool

That's how I noticed they needed remastering.

Also, I retract all the silly things I said upthread.

it could do with a 5.1 while we're at it.

just turn it up, fool

-- sexyDancer, Wednesday, 25 July 2007

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That's how I noticed they needed remastering.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007

me too.

we've entered a time warp
again, through a time warp

Lurve this bit by N. It's worth requoting in full:

The whole point of it for me is that it's a whole album. I adore the sweep of it. It's all of a piece. With grinning confidence it introduces itself in the hi-hats of the glorious 'this is where we all are' Fine Time, sets the emotional 'this is where we've come from' note with All The Way and then spins through five perfect whirls of sun-bleached pop, feet never hitting the floor. Is Vanishing Point a shining pinnacle or the comedown? Depends on whether I'm dancing, maybe. Either way, it's the brilliant heart of the album. Then Dream Attack comes along to shoot you through the heart again, an epilogue, the most beautiful of all mornings after.

It remains my favorite NO album by some distance, and the one that convinced me of their greatness. However, it's fascinating that Gill remarked on the "strong synergy between all the band members" yet earlnash notes that they "sound even less like a band playing together and more of songs put together via studio production." I say it's a bit of both, no? Anyway, Republic is the one that sounds like Bernard and Stephen Hague programming synths with the odd Hooky bassline here and there.

It's always sounded fine to me.

"Guilty Partner" is criminally great.

Have you come around on "All The Way"???

that was the track that instantly gripped me all those years ago.

I was trying to remember if my old rant about this album was upthread and it was. Good.

this is the best. ever. 'all the way' is my coming out song.

Listened to the reissue a few times through a week or so ago. Totally great album, possibly my fave New Order.

yeahhh

Listening to this for the first time. Love all their other albums so far. This and Republic are the last of the NO albums I've yet to hear.

So glad I waited for the reissues to hear them for the first time. This shit sounds amazing! I read that the original CD pressings sounded like crap.

So far so good! Currently on track five, "Guilty Pleasure". What I love about NO (and what NO veterans will think, "no shit," is that every album has a distinct sound - but to pull all these distinct-sounding records off with resounding success is rare, imo.

I mean, how many bands can/have pulled this off? The Beatles, Radiohead?

Barneywaves.

I love Technique. It's my favorite album of all time. OF ALL TIME! I can still remember unwrapping the cellophone on the cassette the day it was released. The opening of Fine Time made my heart race and I was on cloud 9 for months after just letting the tape flip over and over in the car.

the best pop album ever made. it's as simple as that.
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:17 (7 years ago)

I concur with me. nothing's ever even come close. i kinda feel like England fans waiting for a team that will take them to victory like in 66. i've pretty much accepted it won't happen and i'm okay with that.

i mean this was a *number 1 album* in the UK and they advertised it with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpCr8wh6zE

man alive...

the original cd pressings don't sound like crap, except for love life which had pre-emphasis on it and so sounded bad if played on a player that doesn't deal with that (which would be most players now). I haven't listened to the official remasters because I still can't figure out how to tell if you have a good batch or bad batch (the first issues of the REMASTERS were apparently awful, and they have allegedly fixed those but I don't know anyone who has found the fixed ones). anyway easier to get all of this stuff (single wise) off the internet now, the fan-led remaster project was better.

copyright date on the spine says Rhino 2009. most of the corrected remasters don't have the Deluxe slipcase overlay.

did they correct the first CD in the package or was it just the second disc that had the flaws and needed correcting? i always thought the first disc sounded amazing on that first issue. the packaging was a bit rubbish though.

They speak!

That wasn't an advert, that was played on Tony Wilson's "The other side of midnight" TV show, if I recall correctly.

Or maybe it was an advert (just played it through).

Maybe for the american market..

It's my favorite album of all time. OF ALL TIME! I can still remember unwrapping the cellophone on the cassette the day it was released. The opening of Fine Time made my heart race and I was on cloud 9 for months after just letting the tape flip over and over in the car.

I don't know for sure if it's my favorite, but if I made lists this would definitely be in my top ten.

still GOLD:

NEW ORDER 'TECHNIQUE' by Chris Roberts - from Melody Maker (1989)

It begins. It thumps with glee, it swirls with lackadaisical intensity. "You're much too young to be a part of me, you're much too young to get a hold on me." And never have veterans sounded so brilliantly arrogant, masters so eager. Jesus. "Technique" is so effortlessly GREAT, so languidly heroic, so vibrant and thrilling despite itself, that one wishes one could weep. As the Austrian philosopher Rose Royce once commented: "I'm in love (and I love the feeling)." That's what this is like. I first hear it on a train from Waterloo and as the power stations and football pitches fly past, I want to get out and race the train to the sound of this perfect, perfect music. New Order know that the times throw a malfunctioning grey electric blanket over our emotion, but also that the slightest wriggle could be the one to turn it on again. They do this wriggle repeatedly, on every jauntily fatigued song, like they've done it many times before. Only on "Technique", they do it more skilfully and confidently than ever. This leads not to plushness or sumptuousness, but to a tumbling pumping river of their strengths, their weaknesses, their glib grandeur. Never have New Order sounded so little like people from Manchester, so much like gods.

It's clear by now that, though they seem able to clean up in any medium, there are two bas(s)ic New Order modes of transportation - the pop one which is like The Cure ripping off New Order, and the disco one which is like Shannon ripping off New Order. Both are severally represented here without any falling between two stools. Their feel is whisker-fine, their surges are princely. Albrecht's fragmented and victimised, but resilient, paper-mache poetry hauls itself up for what stings like one final summation of the shameful agonies of being male, of being prey to love and lust with equal sincerity/severity. Of acknowledging a bewildering sense of futility but still for some reason writing things down. When I say "male" I don't mean to imply that a "female" couldn't have written these simple yearnings and elegies, but that she wouldn't have started from the same angle. Undoubtedly "Technique" is inspired by a vulnerable, peculiarly boyish, somewhat petulant romanticism. from start to finish, from (heart on) sleeve (a cherub) to beaty monster inside.

"I can't find you, I can't find my peace of mind without you." As ever New Order temper Barney's pseudo-metaphysical couplets with a deceptive flippancy. (this is what always made them better and deeper than Joy Division.) "Fine Time " bubbles in, fascistically and facetiously making you dance. "Sophisticated lady, you got style and you got class, but most of all..." We strain to hear the punchline. We want to hear the punchline. We need to hear the punchline. "...Love technique." Ah, that'll be the title then. I am fully prepared to believe the lamb bleating at the end of this track is Christ applauding.

From then on it's irresistible, New Order marching through eight effervescing asphalt plains. There isn't a sub-GREAT moment to be found. When the majestic swooning "Run" "takes it down" you know that if the modernist ensemble come rushing back in with all swooshes blazing before the song fades, you'll start giggling at how marvellous all this is getting. They do. You do. you're sold. you're buying. You're coming out for spring. "All The Way" is gently awesome, precision guitars and rhythms levitating Albrecht's camp grandiloquence: "It takes years to find the nerve to be apart from what you've done, to find the truth inside yourself and not depend on anyone." There are many confessionals regarding strain, age, doubt, determination. "Love Less" and the probable next single "Round And Round" (a shimmering white funk whirlwind, if whirlwinds can shimmer, which I'm sure they can) build an apposite bridge between sentiment and dynamism. The latter is again evocative of travel, of flirting with life's hugeness. New Order are all about those minutes when you feel like a winning underdog and you knew all along you could do it. Of course, there's some miserablism. The beautiful (no other word) "Vanishing Point" and "Dream Attack" allow the lights up at the end of the party and, well, things are really quite manageable. They don't get morose. They get serene. Authentically. Before this there's a snarling "Guilty Partner", a bloodrush rather self-effacingly called "Mr Disco", and the aforementioned and utterly regal "Run", possibly their most poised and potent sculpure since "Thieves like Us". Play it loud and obsessive. Ultimately New Order are a subjective experience. A hundred lines here provoke productive self-examination and the hygiene of the sound encourages more anima projections than "La Boheme". I'm not being indulgent here (not by my standards) but you should be when you listen to it. And it swings, did I say it swings? "My life ain't no holiday, I've ben through the point of no return. I've seen what the man can do, I've seen all the hate of a woman too." Yes Bernard, we're all growing up. England's finest reluctant pop poet. I mean it. When he hits menopause there'll be a hell of a novel in this man. Meanwhile, the propulsion of the grooves is crisper than ice, more active than anarchy, swaggering on crutches. When New Order are this GREAT, this effortlessly, the rest might as well go home and peel onions or something. "Technique" is the state of the embers of the Eighties, mystique and mistakes merging, kissed by the ruby lips of God. "Technique" is a rare and ravishing triumph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWxlb8EIYE

Been listening to this album a lot lately. Every time I listen to this album I'm always struck by how many fantastic moments there are on it... the hi-hat and throbbing bass on the intro of 'Fine Time' before the drums kick in! That pulsing, phasing synth at the end of 'Round & Round'! The 'Just Like Heaven'-isms of 'All The Way'. Fucking brilliant album. Their most perfect record, IMHO.

I just started getting really really into this for the first time ever! So much fun.

At the end of the video Steve grabs a surfboard and runs straight to the beach!

I was more fascinated by Bernard Sumner's dancing! Aciiieeed!

Best album by the best band of all time!!!!

I'm unsure about 'best band of all time', but it's easy to see why 'Technique' is so highly praised. The consistently strong songwriting, and a clarity in the production that its predecessor 'Brotherhood' lacked (even though I understand some might find the murky production of 'Brotherhood' part of the charm of that record). Those throbbing DX7 basslines, augmented by Peter Hook's unique bass sound. It's probably the New Order album that features the least amount of lyrical clunkers, and I think this was the record where Bernard Sumner truly became a good singer. His voice on the earlier albums was a bit all over the place, although at the same time arguably more expressive - but his vocals here are just sublime, IMO.

On the first Electronic record Sumner showed how much he'd learned from this album.

I'll admit, I haven't heard the first Electronic record aside from the singles ('Getting Away With It', 'Disappointed', 'Get The Message') which I really really liked. I have heard 'Raise The Pressure', though, which I didn't like at all.

You must listen to that first record immediately.

You must listen to that first record immediately.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, October 28, 2011 1:04 AM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark

Noted Ned, will get a hold of it ASAP! Enjoyed your write-up of 'Brotherhood' in the 'Brotherhood' thread, btw!

The Best album evahhh

crikey yeah Electronic wipes the floor with Republic or Brotherhood IMO.
it's fantastic in places. this is one of those places

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ahvctVWv18

also here's a nice B side which james 'LCD' murphy is very fond of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD6-bMRJJZY

I was singing the first track of Electronic's first album in the shower this morning. Great record, don't think it hits the heights of Technique though.

I will stick up for "Raise the Pressure", some nice breezy pop songs on that record. Holds some good memories for me too.

also here's a nice B side which james 'LCD' murphy is very fond of

Wait -- really? Awesome!