― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
challenge of origin myths
privileging
logocentrism
obsession with authentic
(i get the idea you might be taking an interesting idea and turning it boring; i just have no idea what the idea *is*, because you haven't remotely explained it.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link
"ALRIIIIIGHT FELLA-TH, LET'TH GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
()ops, synths were the absolute shit in rock circles in the 70s.. as were vocoders. Get one Frampton Comes Alive!
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
this completely makes sense -- just like how, in the pre-sgt. pepper's '60s, none of the rock bands ever had to bill themselves as "real rock bands"; in fact, nobody had to do that until, when, springsteen? something like that. (maybe the band or creedence or flamin groovies did; I dunno -- but if your point is that the alleged authenticity doesn't have to advertise itself as such until it has sort of reduced itself to an *homage* to authenticity, i think I agree.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― gor gor the hill giant, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, basically, the hatred against disco ended because the same people suddenly felt even more hatred against synthpop.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
There were more signs of homophobia in the hatred against boybands during the late 90s, although that too, was mainly just a hatred against corporate mass-produced commercial pop.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link
"musically inferior" eh? inferior to what, exactly? If you have a logically clear, non-circular, non-question-begging definition of what constitutes musical "superiority" and "inferiority", I would love to hear it.
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Damn you sir, I was growing up in middle America and though employed we had no coke. You are a drugophobe. (Maybe.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost to Geir
So I'm assuming that by your "quantity (of talent) X complexity (of form/composition) = overall superiority index" formula (which I rather charitably assume you to have though through in such a manner), you would then agree that composers of symphonies are then "musically superior" to the composers of symphonic rock, who are in turn "musically superior" to the composers of poor old disco, correct? And if so, that would mean that composers who write works that require multiple orchestras (Ives, Stockhausen and Xenakis all come to mind) are "musically superior" to people who limit themselves to just one measly old orchestra, correct? So then, I'm curious, maybe you could help me out here as I'm not quite as confident as you seem to be about gauging musical superiority-- which is "musically superior", Stockhausen's "Gruppen", Xenakis' "Duel" or Ives' "Universe Symphony"? Who is *truly* superior?
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link
scott, they were still teaching the hustle in gym classes in the 90s!!!
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link
coke = high end (disco hi hats, snares, strings, synths)
weed = low end (reggae, dub, hip hop kicks and basslines)
theory.
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link
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― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link