this is the thread where the ILM massive teach mark s a *LESSON*

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Yes of course I meant Oswald. It's the name isnt it. Put yr patriotism aside just that much ok? (Larue do you like Irakere? I like the LP ca. '78, from before several of their MVP jumped ship, pretty much literally. Does he talk about them, and/or Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra?)

― don, Saturday, 1 January 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The Sublette book only goes up to the 50s. He has a second volume planned. I'm actually not that big a fan of Cuban music per se. I prefer Puerto Rican/NuYorican/Colombian stylings, but still, the basic foundation for salsa comes via Cuba, so I am interested. I haven't liked anything I've heard by Irakere.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i happy end of 2004
ii miss scanning a ILX thread to get mark's take on the question
iii should mail you a disc of music

― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 1 January 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

haha don i just realised that wz you!!

but i am still trying to codecrack the patriotism gag

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 January 2005 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i did in fact grow up near a town named for the fact that a long-ago saxon king called oswald hid in a a tree once (or wz killed by a tree or something)

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 January 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link

but i'm saving the details of that for my sleater-kinner lesson

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 January 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"Lee Harvey" was what I had in mind (relates to yr. patriotism cause Blair is Bush's poodle and your Prime Minister, nyah nyah, nah nah nah)(Bush is *my whut whut) Intriguing bout the tree (seriously), but I'll wait for the sleater-kinner(?) lesson. In the meantime, more musical recs: RIO BAILE FUNK:FAVELA BOOTY BEATS and Daara J's BOOMERAN and reggaeton too, cos you need a sunny vacation I would imagine (more UK stereotyping but still!)

― don, Sunday, 2 January 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Sleater-Kinner fuckin suck dog balls

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 2 January 2005 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Really? Too bad. Sleater-Kinney's pretty good, though.

― don, Sunday, 2 January 2005 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

hey mark just wanted to say hi. i dig radio free narnia...see ya.

― Destroy A. Monsters (Destroy A. Monsters), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

man that louis prima story justifies ilm in its entirety

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

di is back so maybe i shd do my tyrannosaurus rex one AT LAST

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

and thx abt rfn -- sorry it's been a bit far-and-few-between lately

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

is your beef with oswald easily summarized?

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i am back! i am here! i am reading! i am writhing with anticipation!

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

that beef w.oswald:
he had an extremely feeble video piece in the show i talk about in the rise-and-sprawl piece, as well as what i recall as a very smug cover interview in the wire round about the same time -- esp.as the culture-jamming meme was more than a bit played at that point, but no one challenged him on this

so i wz very grumpy at him -- ppl told me afterwards i was bein unfair, and that's totally possible -- i wz just fed of readin how Amazingly Daringly Subversive he was Pokin Fun at Pop, i think, and never anything abt how else his stuff maybe worked

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

ah ok -- his video works aren't my favorite either. I wouldn't call him smug, but he's definitely self-id's as art-world & thus rubs some people the wrong way, especially these days now that 'sampling' seems so obvious as to be politically inert

that 2 CD 'plunderphonic' box is a little indigestable, but I think you might like his 'WX' from 1983 or the revised 'Plexure' if you're curious about how he earned his rep

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

WX = scroll down to final 11 tracks

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(just bumpi'nso asto keep 'eh lessons withinteh mark s's visibleness, wellhopefully)

― tiit (tiit), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

(mock me willya?) Um, if i can still make suggestions mark how about "Breaking the Split Screen Barrier" by Kim Deal's garage band The Amps?

― Destroy A. Monsters (Destroy A. Monsters), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

early post by me^

I wish these were still going on...would love to hear him unpack a Breeders/Amps song or two; somewhere around here Sinker talks about having a shot with Kelley Deal

― taking drugbs (to make music to take drugbs to) (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 23 June 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

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