Alfred Hitchcock: Classic or Dud?

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Is NxNW supposed to be "romantic"?!

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

or "funny"?!

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a romp, guys.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Cary Grant drunk = height of comedy in 1959

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Martin Landau as gay man = height of comedy in 1959.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

If Hitch says so, I'll buy it.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

xp: yes and yes and it is. (I'd love to sit thru The Awful Truth / NxNW in a theater with Eric and he could explain why everyone was delusionally laughing for four hours.)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Martin Landau was supposed to be gay in NbyNW??? What did I miss???

Mr. Que, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost You just want to see me cut my throat.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Landow is so not gay in NxNW. It's a pipe dream created by people who want to make the movie more interesting.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

James Mason arguing with Landau says, "What's the matter – jealous?"

Landau: "Call it my woman's intuition."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just about to xpost that

da croupier, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I heard Landau say he was gay in NxNW.

(have you read Robin Wood?)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

When I first saw the movie as a kid that line really made me go "huh?"

da croupier, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

NxNW is more interesting than Spellbound, Dial M and Rebecca for starters.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Spellbound and Dial M, fer sure

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean I love them all but Eric's dismissal just seems so arbitrary.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

ha!

Leonard: You surely would have suspected. Why else would you have decided not to tell Miss Kendall why our little treasure here has a belly full of microfilm?
Vandamm: You seem to be trying to fill mine with rotten apples.
Leonard: Sometimes the truth does taste like a mouthful of worms.
Vandamm: Truth? I've heard nothing but innuendos.

Mr. Que, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

ha indeed. There's a lot of sexual Otherness in Hitchcock that isn't exactly gay in that repressed Hollywood way... more like, there's something going on here and you don't really want to know what it is, do you, Mr Jones?

btw, JJ Leigh makes a good Mrs Danvers, if more glam than Judith Anderson.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

The first exchange might not not mean anything, but it's so weird and unexpected – and Hitch was not careless about dialogue – that it's the only possible explanation.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

oooh i dunno if i'd say NxNW was more interesting than rebecca

da croupier, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

It's maybe a bit Goth-y for me.

Agree with Morbs about Jennifer Jason Leigh but I assumed that was me being uncritical about everything she does.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

(have you read Robin Wood?)

Yeah, like I'm going to read about NxNW.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

oddly the first thing that comes to mind when I think about NxNW is that little kid in the background that plugs his ears right before Eva Marie Saint shoots Cary Grant.

da croupier, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Dial M could be conceivably less interesting than NxNW. I've skipped it so far. Spellbound and To Catch a Thief are both way down there alongside NxNW in disappointment, but neither are anywhere near as wildly beloved.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the hurt in Mason's voice when Leonard pulls the gun fulla blanks: "LEEONAARD?!?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Great opening credits on NxNW, I'll admit.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Spellbound kinda sucks

da croupier, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

To Catch a Thief totally sucks

Mr. Que, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Sabotage = most underrated

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Spellbound has got maybe 10 great minutes, and a lot of dialogue I don't remember. But it's hard to watch it without thinking of High Anxiety.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

James Mason is the most polished, pained-looking Hitch villain ever! He can actually sell killing someone as a sequela of irritation.

Plus, an ad exec being relentlessly chased by killers brings me joy, having worked with such fuckers for 8 years.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Gregory Peck has a talent for smothering costars with a pillow of sincere, plodding suckdom.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

The ski sequence might be his worst set piece that I've seen. If they cut out some of the "psychiatrists confer" sequences I could at least enjoy Spellbound as watchable trash.

da croupier, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

James Mason is the most polished, pained-looking Hitch villain ever!

Claude fucking Rains.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the way James Mason says "Games?...*must* we?" in NxNW

Joe, Friday, 8 February 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Claude Rains is more anguished.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The audio commentary on Criterion Collection's Rebecca (currently out of print) is one of the best I have ever heard...astoundingly informative.

Joe, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

who did it?

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I would agree RW is greater, but cmon, they're significantly different stylewise!
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Es tut mir sehr leid, Alfred, aber ich bin der Beste.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

German is sexy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

haha

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

eric u crazy, NBNW is great.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

NxNW : Hitchcock :: Untouchables : De Palma

It's great because the syllogism works (I'd imagine) for both of us.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah. untouchables is one of the few de palmas i like. but that's partly cos i saw it when i was like nine and was all "damn, i saw an 18-certificate film."

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

See, that difference in our tastes I remember.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Tho I don't remember fetishizing T2 for being one of the first superviolent R movies I saw.

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

let's all be thankful de Palma doesn't have the chops to do a witty Hitchcockian chase film.

ha, I saw The Reivers was on late last night on TCM and my parents pulled us out of that one when the cathouse sequence started. (I think I was 12, sis 10.)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

This was the first PG-13 comedy I saw with my parents:

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Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

yes, Morbs, let's ... jesus christ

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link


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