quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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I think it's just taken as a given

iatee, Monday, 29 March 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

its could all possibly be metaphors for the diff blogs she visited

~cankles~ (ice cr?m), Monday, 29 March 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe 'I kept looking up the word “entropy” in the dictionary, staring in awe at the definitions, they so perfectly captured the spirit of my deranged soul.' just means 'I visited ilx'

iatee, Monday, 29 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

layup

drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Monday, 29 March 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the blog reads like a 21st century version of the yellow wallpaper

ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Monday, 29 March 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

captured the spirit of my deranged soul

Derangement can be a very healthy development for people whose normal range is badly trivialized.

Aimless, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link

"The tides are sculpted by storms, moons, and winds; they are by turns subtle and violent, yet utterly reliable in the rhythm of their leaving, and returning. And here is a photo i call 'Fucking Turtles'."

fat mantis (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

haah

~cankles~ (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link

didn't read, mind you

goole, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Grand Hotel Courts Hip With a Dance Party

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/nyregion/12pierre.html

And while the bar offers top-shelf libations — Veuve Clicquot, Johnnie Walkers Black and Blue, Macallan 25 — the budget-minded can easily nurse an $8 beer or one of the $14 specialty cocktails all night long.

I DIED, Monday, 12 April 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago) link

the best thing about that article is that "the pierre hotel" is given no explanation or set-up before being deployed as a punchline because the author simply assumes her readers will know exactly what it is

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 April 2010 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link

the thing is, they probably do

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 April 2010 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link

http://gawker.com/5439146/carles-the-hipster-of-the-decade-is-taking-over-the-new-york-times

this is kinda tendentious right

nakhchivan, Monday, 12 April 2010 10:18 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/fashion/15skin.html

"Is it okay for women to not shave their armpits?" - New York Times, 2010

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Monday, 12 April 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

welp

horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Diversity on the US Supreme Court, NY Times style

basically, they want SC justices who went to Ivy League schools OTHER THAN Yale and Harvard. because U. Penn or Columbia law grads are keepin' it real ... or something.

Did Al Davis Buy the Jets from the Johnson Family When No-One Was Look (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno, that's not how I read the article...

At least one name on the short list, Federal Judge Sidney Thomas, of Billings, Mont., looks like an intriguing outsider. He was born in Bozeman, got his law degree at the University of Montana in Missoula and he . . . oh, forget it. He ought to know better than most: the door to the modern Supreme Court is closed to anyone from the wrong school.

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i remember the dust-up when Bush nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. many of her critics focused on the fact that she went to Southern Methodist Law and not some Ivy League law school -- never mind that she was at the top of her class at Southern Methodist or any other legal accomplishments. (which isn't to say that there weren't OTHER reasons why she didn't deserve to be appointed to the Supreme Court -- the fact that she was basically the Bush Family's consigliere being one of the most important ones -- just that sniffing about her lack of pedigree isn't one of them).

i did overlook the part about Judge Thomas from Montana -- i looked more at the writer's focus on Justice Douglass (who went to Columbia) and Justice Stevens (who went to Northwestern). frankly, those schools aren't exactly beyond the pale for Presidential appointments to the Supreme Court.

Getting My Volcano On (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

in a sense the dude is more cynical than you are tho - he thinks that the problem is so bad that even a columbia grad would be a miracle

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

columbia is a pretty big deal though isn't it?

not in the context of the current supreme court!

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it's considered a step below Harvard and Yale IIRC - these heirarchies are burned into the brains of anyone in the legal profession - i.e. if you want to teach at, say, SMU, you will have to have a JD from tier (x) but not tier (y) etc

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

and look hey, our last four presidents have been yale-yale-yaleharvard-harvard

talk about turning into France...

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean my main point is that he's not arguing that columbia law grads are poor unfortunate souls, he's arguing that the status quo is so absurd that even going to the 3rd or 4th best law school in the country is considered a drawback

xp

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

and look hey, our last four presidents have been yale-yale-yaleharvard-harvard

Obama went to Columbia.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

= progress

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

well clinton went to georgetown but both finished at harvard/yale

...and then went to harvard law

GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_nationale_d%27administration

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

in a sense the dude is more cynical than you are tho - he thinks that the problem is so bad that even a columbia grad would be a miracle

that may be, and i don't know what really accounts for the Yale/Harvard dominance on the Supreme Court. (it also overlooks that Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justice O'Connor were both Stanford Law grads.) but i also don't think that anyone would go ballistic if the President nominated someone who "only" went to Columbia or Northwestern (which may now be unrepresented on the Supreme Court but are still pretty damn "elite"). i merely find the argument that someone who didn't go to Harvard or Yale Law would be more likely to "keep it real" simply b/c they didn't go to those institutions to be laughable.

i could definitely the pedigree snobs getting the vapors for someone who went to U. Montana Law (or any other law school like that).

Getting My Volcano On (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

sarko notably didn't get accepted to the undergrad school that traditionally comes before ena

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty sure they gave our justices their appointments as a reward for having to spend three years in shitty cambridge/new haven

I think he didn't go to ena either? xp

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, gimme missoula over NH any day

GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I think this whole thing sorta overlooks the bigger issue: the fact that such a large % of people who are currently in positions that make them 'SC-eligible' are people who went to yale/harvard.

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

there's definitely something incestuous about it, i agree.

Getting My Volcano On (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

iatee : no Sarkozy didn't go to ENA. There was some talk about the fact that he didn't go to any of the schools which presidents and major politicians went to.

Jibe, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

haha yeah I know, I went to one of them

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

oh ok sorry! which one btw?

Jibe, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

sciences po -paris
(just for a year)

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I would have guessed. Loads of exchange students there.

Jibe, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

its only saving grace

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

ha! was it that bad?

Jibe, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

obama went to occidental college fyi 2 all

max, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

was it an accident

~~~~~sigh~~~~~

max, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

what movie did obama star in when he went to yr college max

Mr. Que, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

lets get our memes straight

max, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link


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