Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

fuck

that's when i really noticed the sick brushwork and had to find out who was behind it.

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:52 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

you have to hear "up in flames" from judee cruise's second album (first appeared in lynch's industrial symphony no.1). the drumming is incredible!

some great stuff in this thread, but needs more stoned theorising and less season 2 subplot handwringing

would love to hear an interpretation of josie's transformation into a drawer knob

There was an article in i think The Observer last week that had interviews with some of the cast and Mark Frost. Turns out he was just as baffled by the drawer knob thing as the rest of us.

link pls.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/mar/21/twin-peaks-twenty-years-on

this show has aged like an exquisite smoked cheese pig.

Josie in the drawer knob seemed like a pretty clear parallel to the Log Lady and her husband, with his link to her log, post-mortem. It wasn't developed much but spirits and wood seem tied together in Twin Peaks. It actually makes some sense to me, bad digital effects aside.

I've been watching Seinfeld reruns lately and am enjoying Grace Zabriskie and Warren Frost as George's fiance's parents.

Zabriskie and Frost are amazing in Seinfeld--stuff like the episode where George tries to bluff them out about having a place in the Hamptons. And Zabriskie possibly gives my single favorite performance in Twin Peaks. She doesn't get a lot of screen time, but she's a weird presence throughout. Her scream at the end of the pilot is inexplicably terrifying.

Hayward/Palmer in Seinfeld vs. Big Ed & Nadine Hurley in The People Under the Stairs?

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Bobby has such a funny face.

I love Bobby. The show is so black-and-white about good vs. evil. Most of the characters are GOOD and constantly GOOD or EVIL and constantly EVIL. Bobby is one of the few (along with maybe Shelley?) who, although mainly bad and evil, seem to be on the verge of redemption a few times during the run (when he listens to his father's vision, when he tells Shelley he loves her in the hospital). He's also a really goofy actor, he's a lot of fun to watch.

oh come on Bobby isn't evil

he's just an idiot

Well not evil, but bad. He deals drugs, plots schemes, etc.

he killed a dude!

but he felt really bad about it

? I don't remember Bobby killing anybody

that's cool, everybody was pretty coked-up at the time

I wonder if there was any proper reason that Bobby and Mike shared their names with Killer Bob and Mike the One-Armed Man? Was it just to provide a red herring?

oh right, the drug deal murder in Fire Walk With Me

I dunno Bobby is a great character but I don't think he fits into a simple good/evil dichotomy, he's just not anywhere on the level of palpable evil of Leo or the Renaults or even Ben Horne

xp

Also, why did Mike the One-Armed Man completely vanish from the series after Leland died? He seemed pretty determined to catch Bob, and since he knew Bob is spirit, he should've known that killing Leland wouldn't kill the spirit. So why didn't he continue chasing Bob?

he got a lead on his missing arm i think.

he took his medication and forgot about it

mostly he seemed concerned about Bob killing people, and since Bob's spirit had essentially fled/been confined to the Black Lodge (where it wasn't killing people) maybe he just didn't give a shit anymore.

I understood Mike's missing arm to be Bob

oh right, the drug deal murder in Fire Walk With Me

― Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, March 29, 2010 9:10 AM (30 minutes ago)

yeah, it's alluded to 2x in the first season (maybe the first time in the pilot?)

after a quick skim, this blog post seems to do a decent analysis of Mike/Bob/"Arm"=Man From A Faraway Place

http://www.endofmedia.com/?p=170

"Through the darkness of future's past, the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds... 'Fire... walk with me.' We lived among the people. I think you say, convenience store. We lived above it. I mean it like it is... like it sounds. I too have been touched by the devilish one. Tattoo on the left shoulder... Oh, but when I saw the face of God, I was changed. I took the entire arm off. My name is Mike. His name is Bob."

Phillip Gerard
Without Chemicals, He Points

"I mean it like it is... like it sounds."

love this

Yeah, I think it's said in Fire Walk With Me that the backwards-talking dwarf is the arm Mike cut off. Though what that would imply remains unclear to me, except that we can probably assume the dwarf is evil, since Mike cut the arm off to get rid of its evil.

if my arm looked and acted like that I'd fucking cut it right off

(can you keep the fwwm spoilers to a minimum pls)

it's almost 20 years old lol

IIRC the giant and the old woman with the kid are of the White Lodge, and Bob is obviously of the Black Lodge, but the dwarf's alignment remains unclear to me. If he is the evil part of Mike that he cut off with his arm, then the dwarf should be of the Black Lodge, right? But he doesn't seem to do anything evil, and he gives Cooper some obscure hints, just like the giant does.

lol xp

the dwarf, iirc, is of the black lodge but had some sort of dispute with BOB, prompting him to help coop?

garbonzonia or w/e iirc.

i'm watching fwwm for the first time tonight

yeah Man From Another Place is the curator/master of the Black Lodge, Bob didn't bring him his garmonbozia so he helped out Coop to bring Bob back to the Black Lodge and pay his debt

IIRC the giant and the old woman with the kid are of the White Lodge

no, all of those folks are of the black lodge, see FWWM.

this shit isn't supposed to make sense btw. i mean, we're lucky it makes ANY sense. did you see inland empire?

Very mundane question, is the full series still on the network's website for viewing like it was a year or so ago? (I can't check bcuz of webfilter at work)

only a couple episodes, sadly.

Leo needs a new pair of shoes.

new shoes

*spit/drool*

"Fleshworld"

secret diary of laura palmer = really disappointing. the dale cooper book = even more disappointing.