Outkast poll #2: ATLiens

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That ain't hiphop
You find that shit in the gift shop

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Be kings and queens up in this thing
Get rid of all them jokers
FACE DOWN
FACE DOWN

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link

FLOWIN LIKE SOME MOTHERFUCKIN SWORDFISH

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I call the crib, they say "Breeze, you ain't know?"
I said "What?" "Big Time got popped in his Benzo"
I said "Damn, man, I'm ridin' in his Lexus"
I'm bout to dump this nigga's shit in New Dimentions
Get to the crib so I can Big Slate up
And tell him the money man done slipped and got his throat cut
And everything that we took from the wearhou'
I heard somebody talkin bout it at the white hou'
Man, thought you said that this job is for me and you
I ain't know that Bill Clampett want his song too
Tell his folks that I'm sorry bout that Lexus
I'm bout to dip and see my sister up in--
Naw, can't even tell you where I keep my extra player card
Cause them red dog police know we homeboys
Just tell everyone who owe us a dime
It's that great "Ho, round up your money" time
I got to have mine, then I'm out of here
Take a loss, come back up just like Coco Grier
You ain't gotta worry bout your partner gettin caught like a lame
It won't be over til that big girl from Decatur sang

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Lookin up in your face I see a coward and a dimwit
Lookin to run up in my private home just like you was the folks

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I need to take my ass to the crib and drop the baby off
Cause the niggas at the corner store been lookin at me for too long
Starin like accidents on highways
High days are better than sober ones
Don't advise it, but I know it has to come
So I put two in the sky to let them know I'm babysittin
Yall don't know nothin bout Big Boi cause that nigga's steady pimpin

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link

ME AND EVERYTHING AROUND ME
IS UNSTABLE LIKE CHERNOBYL

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago) link

PLANETS MOON STARS
EARTH JUPITER MARS
HOES CLOTHES CARS
IT'S WHO U ARE

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:53 (fourteen years ago) link

even Joe gots problems that he gots to joust with

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 09:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I grew up on booty-shake
We did not know no better thang

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 10:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't expect it to be pimpin
Keep your index off the trigger

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 10:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Fridays are tight
But Saturday just makes it old

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link

FAT TITTIES TURN TO TEARDROPS
AS FAT ASS TURNS TO FLAB
SORES THAT WAS OPEN WOUNDS
EVENTUALLY TURN TO SCABS
TREES BRIGHT AND GREEN
TURN YELLOW-BROWN
AUTUMN CALLED EM
SEE ALL DEM LEAVES MUST FALL DOWN
GROWING OLD

the real dangers horses in black neighborhoods face (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 March 2010 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

preach, rev.

i was thinking about this album earlier and just how much of a paradigm shift it introduced for me in the way i listened to and thought about music. hiphop was my "classic rock" or pop music as a kid growing up, and this was like my dark side of the moon. but somehow even more important and poignant. nothing else at the time sounded like it. i still remember vividly where i was the first time i heard 'elevators' and then, a couple months later, the whole album. i sat and listened to it that first time and i was actively in denial of what i was hearing — where did this music come from? unbelievably good.

when i think of the best albums of the 90s, this is always in contention for my #1 spot.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 3 August 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

Stankonia and Aquemini are all-time, Southernplayalistic is great, but I've given this like five or six listens and it's always left me cold apart from the title track. But it's been like fifteen years since the last time I heard it so maybe it's time to try again

Vinnie, Monday, 3 August 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link

this was always the one that clicked for me over aquemini (and the subsequent ones aren't even close)

ciderpress, Monday, 3 August 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7hU0z4bV8I

did some quick remixes of a couple of my old favorites.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 19 September 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

I love how my top 7 songs from this amazing album matches what I'd pick for their an Outkast "Best-of" playlist.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 19 September 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

This album was my singular signpost album as far as checking out music not-on-the-radio.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 19 September 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

Cruisin’

calstars, Saturday, 19 September 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

couple more remixes we did.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mdEtaMXMmRY

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

this was always the one that clicked for me over aquemini (and the subsequent ones aren't even close)


^^same. you could excise this from the catalog and they’d still be all-timers, but for me ATLiens is one of the best LPs of the last 25 years

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 17 October 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Random reactions listening to this after about 20 years when I used to listen to it a ton is that musically I love it, onp were so good, and outkast were underrated as producers, their flows went askew after the first album where they sounded so in sync like clipse or alkaholiks, they sounded less like a unit now, where I once thought these lyrics were deep, it turns out it just sounds like young guys thinking they are deep, believing they know so much, but actually dont, and why, presumably just cos they were feeling a little sad and had a big debut success, so now felt they had to do the slightly introspective or darker, slightly more jaded follow up. Great hooks though. I downloaded an instrumental version of it to ease my disappointment.

candyman, Monday, 29 March 2021 07:10 (three years ago) link

Strange actually as if you asked me in the late 90a I'd say this was obv their best album,but now I'd prob say stankonia or the debut. Turns out deep sounding thoughts arent always that deep, even if the music is.

candyman, Monday, 29 March 2021 07:12 (three years ago) link

I'm also willing to admit some stuff might be lost in translation by way of me not being southern and being British :)

candyman, Monday, 29 March 2021 07:17 (three years ago) link

actually it should be said that without the vocals, these tracks suck, lolh

candyman, Monday, 29 March 2021 10:22 (three years ago) link

gonna be less confrontational here, but i'm curious about which parts of this come off as fake deep or insincere?

and it seems like most of this criticism is directed towards andre? big boi is mostly still on his fly shit on this album.

voodoo chili, Monday, 29 March 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link

it turns out it just sounds like young guys thinking they are deep, believing they know so much, but actually dont, and why, presumably just cos they were feeling a little sad

like a candyman post on a hiphop thread.

i felt the pressure like sun shining, while raining at the same time.
i kept on rhyming.
not complaining.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

actually it should be said that without the vocals, these tracks suck, lolh

insert every "no" meme in the world here

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 March 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

last summer i think i fell asleep to either this record or me against the world every night

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 29 March 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

you know what it is, its listneing to this as an adult, vs the memory of listening to it a ton as a teenager. coming back to it, and it just seemed like not such a big deal anymore. its also the way that musically it is much more subdued than their first album, which lends to the feeling of it being kinda 'deeper', or the expectation that it will be more... idk, reflective? when really, a lot of the lyrics on this would prob be just at home on beats from the first one. when i say these tracks suck without vocals, i mean, the tracks are great, but without the raps, it just doesnt feel complete, not that 'oh these beats suck' because as i wrote earlier, they are actually one of the best things about this album. anyway, for my money, the best songs are ET and growing old, and at the risk of causing outrage, you may die is perhaps the most affecting moment on the album.

candyman, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link

cool.

also how does it feel to be totally incorrect about everything?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

Just stop being a cunt for once. You want to be a smug twat, faux outraged about your sacred cows being talked about in a way that isnt received wisdom, just stick to the actual points, rather than ad hominem attacks.

candyman, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 05:50 (three years ago) link

It's pretty obv to anyone whos listened to their albums that atliens is the outlier, the one that sounds most unlike the rest, its actually a weirdly quiet album too, not in the way a roc marciano is, but they really committed to a much more introverted *sounding* aesthetic, and sustained it. I wonder if as they were such big native tongues fans if they purposely wanted to make something like their own de la soul is dead or low end theory. Or even j beez with the remedy, although it has much less musical range than those albums IMO as it's so much more minimal.

candyman, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 06:06 (three years ago) link

you’re allowed to criticize any album you like and austin is allowed to think your criticisms are inane

you’re not a bold truth teller for disliking an album that other people like

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 12:57 (three years ago) link

Does Austin need you as his wingman?

Never said I was some bold truth teller but an opinion that isnt consensus is surely ok.

candyman, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:01 (three years ago) link

wasn’t gonna do anything but flag your unnecessary insults but i decided to bump the thread in the off chance someone else wanted to flag it too

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:06 (three years ago) link

Unnecessary? Ha. Flag what you like.

candyman, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:10 (three years ago) link

Honestly am kinda tired of the ilxor.com inner cabal with their dogmatic agenda in what is and isnt ok to be uttered w/r/t rap and black music, never mind their personal attacks and delicate sensitivities. But you guys enjoy yourselves.

candyman, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link

start a sub stack about it or something

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:30 (three years ago) link

anyway, elevators is the best song on here, but it wouldn’t have needed my help.

“mainstream” is my current fav, andre’s verse is packed with puns that teeter juuuust on the right side of corniness. also dig how he plays up his country side when paired with the goodie mob.

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link

“my partners call me big boi but my first name is not steven”

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link

when i say these tracks suck without vocals, i mean, the tracks are great, but without the raps, it just doesnt feel complete, not that 'oh these beats suck' because as i wrote earlier, they are actually one of the best things about this album.

still parsing this tbh

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link

Who would think that a rap album track would sound incomplete without the raps?

the last unvaccinated motherfucker on earth (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link

Rap! The Musical - all the fun of rap, without all that rap!

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link

Piano concertos sound so incomplete without the piano.

the last unvaccinated motherfucker on earth (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link

I don't know what's so difficult about parsing "these instrumentals, which are great and one of the best things about the album, suck without the vocals, which I find to be pseudo-profound", as opposed to the music which truly is deep and therefore elevates the lyrics, tricking you into thinking they're legitimately deep.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

Oops misplaced the end quote

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

gotta go. need to hit the pink floyd dark side of the moon thread with this copy:

you know what it is, its listneing to this as an adult, vs the memory of listening to it a ton as a teenager. coming back to it, and it just seemed like not such a big deal anymore. its also the way that musically it is much more subdued than their first album, which lends to the feeling of it being kinda 'deeper', or the expectation that it will be more... idk, reflective? when really, a lot of the lyrics on this would prob be just at home over music from the first one. when i say these tracks suck without vocals, i mean, the tracks are great, but without the vocals, it just doesnt feel complete, not that 'oh these musicians suck' because as i wrote earlier, they are actually one of the best things about this album. anyway, for my money, the best songs are on the run and any colour you like, and at the risk of causing outrage, breathe is perhaps the most affecting moment on the album.

also i'm always on the lookout for another wingman. please send applications to austin_needs_a_wing✧✧✧@doram✧✧✧.c✧✧ all applications automatically accepted and approved. welcome aboard.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

LOL IT'S NOT A REAL EMAIL ADDRESS YOU STUPID ROBOT

WHAT AN ABSOLUTE FOOLE

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

rt

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 August 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link

my favorite rap record

ciderpress, Saturday, 28 August 2021 04:59 (two years ago) link

it's up there

two years pass...

I should feel like shit for skipping "Decatur Psalm" eh

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:32 (four months ago) link

no. you're a good person and you don't deserve to feel bad.

(but that beat _is_ one of the album's best and i personally love to relish in it. you do you tho.)

"another slice of death, please." (Austin), Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:36 (four months ago) link


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