ITT: LEO 'KING' MESSI

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that was the best argument in that sid lowe piece

When it comes to the inevitable and often tedious comparisons with Cristiano Ronaldo, one of the things that is often said about Messi is that he is not as complete.........Ronaldo is invariably described as more complete than Messi – stronger, faster, bigger, more athletic. But aren't they all part of the same package, an obsession with physical strength? Isn't that a pretty incomplete reading of complete?

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link

What height was Maradona again?

The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

messi isn't exactly slow tbh, nor slight

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

why only yesterday mr nakhchivan was emphasising how his stoutness of calf would ward off even the staunchest of shawcrossings

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

He's no Arshavin

The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

at this point I should just admit defeat, right

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:29 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes, your imaginary antagonists have made you look quite silly.

caek, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

ADMIT DE FEET OF MESSI AS ARTICLE NO 1 AS EVIDENCE IMO

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh caek as ever I've pretty much played myself

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes you are just too real for this board.

caek, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Worth noting that wee tiny Messi would be wee-er and tinier if Barca hadn't given him treatment for a growth hormone deficiency.

what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Aye, otherwise he might just have been the Argentinian Pat Nevin

The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

so he's a drug cheat

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

nakhchivan w/ some unexpected sectarian football moralising here.

ogmor, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i may have been attempting to argue against him (and largely losing) but nakhchivan is on some serious awesome-fucking-football-analysis tip - his posting is A+ and his use of modernist crit dialectic is to be encouraged

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

sectarian?

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

secretarial

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

try to avoid milibandian moralizing tbh but if that's what it takes to subdue lj's bullardian intifada, so be it

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

bullardian antipasta

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

You trying to make like nakh's special friend is starting to bug me more than all this Messi-worship tbh. I'm gonna find me a really shit lower-division poster and lionise him instead.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i love bullard as much as anyone, and i'm not wishing harm on him or anything, but most pics i see of the dude off pitch make it look like the guy has maybe 6 months left to live or something:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00429/Jimmy_Bullard_682x4_429252a.jpg

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

the warmth of lj's maternal embrace is a beautiful way to welcome new football posters into the fold imo.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Awesome post darragh

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I laughed

MPx4A, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm ready for the bigtime

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

noticed&amused by casual choice of terms:
enjoying the increased thrills in lower-expectation lower-league football is catholic (thumbs down on you guys)
messi's lack of lols/generosity in exchange for focus and consistency is comparatively protestant (high five for him)

ogmor, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the 'catholic' was in reference to the poverty, substance abuse and wifebeating aspects iirc.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

nobody will want to be my special friend when i praise the chutzpah of chillwave nomenclature as being almost as cool as the murder of abortion doctors

ah right, well i hate all xtians rly but being boring is worse than instituionalizing pederasty i suppose

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

that's the sort of perverted thinking you espouse when you hate on messi

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

messi >>>>>>> our maddie

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

candela in the windass

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

it always ends with slash

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

good wholesome muscly lower-league slash

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I like LJ's large church w/ windass and messi sharing a hymn book

ogmor, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

good wholesome muscly lower-league-humping-genius-into-submission ecclesiastical slash

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

we're getting dangerously close to catholic baiting again with the 'humping in church' thread

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

72 goals in 89 starts under guardiola

halfway to being barca's record goalscorer.

everyone stfu. leo 'KING' messi.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay. That middle stat is (if true) impressive for him, but really unimpressive for Barca - that makes the all-time record holder ever about the equivalent of Fowler at Liverpool, or a couple of years' Dixie Dean

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

well if my half hearing it while not concentrating on the telly from yerman from revista de la liga isn't good enough for you then i have no care to provide further proof.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Fowler = 183 in 369 appearances for Liverpool
Cesar Rodriguez = 235 in 351 for Barca

Messi is Barca's 10th top scorer with 114 in 199
Gerrard is Liverpool's with 129 in 517

Dunnon what that means other than Gerrard chips in a shitload considering how deep he plays. Messi not much better than Fowler's goals-per-game but he's 22 years old and getting better every year.

Dixie Dean = pre-war scoring for fun before Hitler spoiled it all.

what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Controversy on google answers:

1. Cesar Rodriguez 235
2. Ladislao Kubala 196
3. Samuel Eto'o 130
3. Rivaldo 130
5. Mariano Martin 124
6. Charles Rexach 122
6. Patrick Kluivert 122
8. Josep Escola 118
9. Hristo Stoitchkov 117
10. Estanislao Basora 112
Strawbail7

The highest was not Cesar Rodriguez. It was Paulino Alcántara with 357 goals in 357 appearances. He was of Filipino descent and still remains as the highest goal scorer in FC Barcelona History.
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Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Missed out Ian Rush = 346 in 660

I imagine if Messi stays fit and stays with Barca for >600 games he'll surpass that.

what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

It was Paulino Alcántara with 357 goals in 357 appearances.

215 goals in friendlies.

what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

114/199 goal .57 goals per game.

129/517 .24 goals per game.

gerrard don't play that deep- a good lot of those goals have been while the team is set up around stevie me as second striker, in fact.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

so Messi may well be third by end of the season aged 22 (fourth after Paulino Alcántara) - that is pretty bloody impressive

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

you'd certainly fancy him to be in 5th anyway.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

600 x .57 goals per game is 342 goals for barcelona.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

No, because if you include Alcántara and therefore friendlies a few other guys move up the table.

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what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i've scored hundreds of goals in friendlies ffs

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

ok you're on the list Darragh 'King' Mac

what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

they were for barca 'b' tho :(

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link


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