that was the best argument in that sid lowe piece
When it comes to the inevitable and often tedious comparisons with Cristiano Ronaldo, one of the things that is often said about Messi is that he is not as complete.........Ronaldo is invariably described as more complete than Messi – stronger, faster, bigger, more athletic. But aren't they all part of the same package, an obsession with physical strength? Isn't that a pretty incomplete reading of complete?
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
What height was Maradona again?
― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
messi isn't exactly slow tbh, nor slight
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
why only yesterday mr nakhchivan was emphasising how his stoutness of calf would ward off even the staunchest of shawcrossings
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
He's no Arshavin
― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
at this point I should just admit defeat, right― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:29 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:29 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yes, your imaginary antagonists have made you look quite silly.
― caek, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ADMIT DE FEET OF MESSI AS ARTICLE NO 1 AS EVIDENCE IMO
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh caek as ever I've pretty much played myself
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes you are just too real for this board.
― caek, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Worth noting that wee tiny Messi would be wee-er and tinier if Barca hadn't given him treatment for a growth hormone deficiency.
― what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Aye, otherwise he might just have been the Argentinian Pat Nevin
― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
so he's a drug cheat
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
nakhchivan w/ some unexpected sectarian football moralising here.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i may have been attempting to argue against him (and largely losing) but nakhchivan is on some serious awesome-fucking-football-analysis tip - his posting is A+ and his use of modernist crit dialectic is to be encouraged
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
sectarian?
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
secretarial
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
try to avoid milibandian moralizing tbh but if that's what it takes to subdue lj's bullardian intifada, so be it
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
bullardian antipasta
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
You trying to make like nakh's special friend is starting to bug me more than all this Messi-worship tbh. I'm gonna find me a really shit lower-division poster and lionise him instead.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i love bullard as much as anyone, and i'm not wishing harm on him or anything, but most pics i see of the dude off pitch make it look like the guy has maybe 6 months left to live or something:
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00429/Jimmy_Bullard_682x4_429252a.jpg
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
the warmth of lj's maternal embrace is a beautiful way to welcome new football posters into the fold imo.
Awesome post darragh
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I laughed
― MPx4A, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm ready for the bigtime
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
noticed&amused by casual choice of terms:enjoying the increased thrills in lower-expectation lower-league football is catholic (thumbs down on you guys)messi's lack of lols/generosity in exchange for focus and consistency is comparatively protestant (high five for him)
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the 'catholic' was in reference to the poverty, substance abuse and wifebeating aspects iirc.
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
nobody will want to be my special friend when i praise the chutzpah of chillwave nomenclature as being almost as cool as the murder of abortion doctors
ah right, well i hate all xtians rly but being boring is worse than instituionalizing pederasty i suppose
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
that's the sort of perverted thinking you espouse when you hate on messi
messi >>>>>>> our maddie
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
candela in the windass
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
it always ends with slash
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
good wholesome muscly lower-league slash
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I like LJ's large church w/ windass and messi sharing a hymn book
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
good wholesome muscly lower-league-humping-genius-into-submission ecclesiastical slash
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
we're getting dangerously close to catholic baiting again with the 'humping in church' thread
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
72 goals in 89 starts under guardiola
halfway to being barca's record goalscorer.
everyone stfu. leo 'KING' messi.
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay. That middle stat is (if true) impressive for him, but really unimpressive for Barca - that makes the all-time record holder ever about the equivalent of Fowler at Liverpool, or a couple of years' Dixie Dean
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
well if my half hearing it while not concentrating on the telly from yerman from revista de la liga isn't good enough for you then i have no care to provide further proof.
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Fowler = 183 in 369 appearances for LiverpoolCesar Rodriguez = 235 in 351 for Barca
Messi is Barca's 10th top scorer with 114 in 199Gerrard is Liverpool's with 129 in 517
Dunnon what that means other than Gerrard chips in a shitload considering how deep he plays. Messi not much better than Fowler's goals-per-game but he's 22 years old and getting better every year.
Dixie Dean = pre-war scoring for fun before Hitler spoiled it all.
― what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Controversy on google answers:
1. Cesar Rodriguez 2352. Ladislao Kubala 1963. Samuel Eto'o 1303. Rivaldo 1305. Mariano Martin 124 6. Charles Rexach 1226. Patrick Kluivert 1228. Josep Escola 1189. Hristo Stoitchkov 11710. Estanislao Basora 112 Strawbail7The highest was not Cesar Rodriguez. It was Paulino Alcántara with 357 goals in 357 appearances. He was of Filipino descent and still remains as the highest goal scorer in FC Barcelona History.Guest
The highest was not Cesar Rodriguez. It was Paulino Alcántara with 357 goals in 357 appearances. He was of Filipino descent and still remains as the highest goal scorer in FC Barcelona History.Guest
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Missed out Ian Rush = 346 in 660
I imagine if Messi stays fit and stays with Barca for >600 games he'll surpass that.
― what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link
It was Paulino Alcántara with 357 goals in 357 appearances.
215 goals in friendlies.
― what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
114/199 goal .57 goals per game.
129/517 .24 goals per game.
gerrard don't play that deep- a good lot of those goals have been while the team is set up around stevie me as second striker, in fact.
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
so Messi may well be third by end of the season aged 22 (fourth after Paulino Alcántara) - that is pretty bloody impressive
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link
you'd certainly fancy him to be in 5th anyway.
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
600 x .57 goals per game is 342 goals for barcelona.
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
No, because if you include Alcántara and therefore friendlies a few other guys move up the table.
xpost
― what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
i've scored hundreds of goals in friendlies ffs
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
ok you're on the list Darragh 'King' Mac
― what else could go wrong for (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
they were for barca 'b' tho :(
― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link