this doesn't sound anything like elephant 6 bands. lazy comparison.this album sounds exactly like the last one minus the three electro-pop singles. hardly mind-blowingly different.
― johnnyo, Monday, 22 March 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's pretty hard to read it as them intentionally trying to pull back from the sort of fans that they've amassed -- they said that they don't want people to download their songs, they want people to download the album and listen to it in full, blah blah -- for people who only heard "kids" or "electric feel" and then here "flash delirium" or w/e, i'm not exactly sure that a lot of them are going to be enticed into hearing the whole album! that sounds as pretty close to "intentional career suicide" as a major label rock band can get
― corrine bailey the chef (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty hard NOT to read it as them*
"this album sounds exactly the same as the last one minus the three good songs"
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
exactly
― corrine bailey the chef (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
actually it's been a long time since i tried to struggle through the first one but this sounds like way, way more affected
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
ok maybe if Kings of Leon had followed up their huge piece of shit with this, you could say it was reaching and/or a fuck you album. but this sounds EXACTLY like MGMT. if you heard this and had to guess who's new album it was, would you really get it wrong?
― johnnyo, Monday, 22 March 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
But it doesn't sound EXACTLY like GOOD MGMT. The whole thing sounds like the laziest album tracks from the last go-round.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
commiseration to MGMT
― aarrissi-a-roni, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry, i just think it's going to be annoying to read every review because they will all have the same meme, which is what you're saying now. An unexpected left-turn, intentionally difficult, in thrall to the sixties. anytime a band makes a record with harmonies and reverb, people start talking about the sixties. or elephant six. it's lazy.
― johnnyo, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
anytime a band makes a record with harmonies and reverb, people start talking about the sixties. or elephant six. it's lazy.
― mizzell, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
ha!
― johnnyo, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
what a disaster for MGMT
― that new wave hippie disco shit (herb albert), Monday, 22 March 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm sure the jurnalistz have it harder.
― johnnyo, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Monday, March 22, 2010 3:54 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
^OTM
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't help but imagine that all of this "we aren't writing poppy songs anymore" business is just to impress a handful of arty girls in Brooklyn.
― Back Like That (makeitpop), Monday, 22 March 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
hey looks like another thread where i'm going to have to suggest ban people who mention "brooklyn" "hipsters"!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
it's interesting to see how makeitpop trolls in threads that he didn't start for the express purpose of trolling
― corrine bailey the chef (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 March 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I really don't see how that's trolling. Is that opinion so outlandish that it seems like I'm baiting you? C'mon.
― Back Like That (makeitpop), Monday, 22 March 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
these dude were probably out for like a year smashing lapsed weezer fan poon by the truckload and you think they are making a whole album to impress five chicks in brooklyn?
― And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 22 March 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
smashing post
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
+2
― shite new answers (cutty), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, why else would a band decide to do something so retarded. I'm guessing arty chicks in BK because I think this band is way too calculated and self-conscious to make this album for purely artistic reasons.
― Back Like That (makeitpop), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
you are guessing arty chicks in BK because you have nothing meaningful to say
― shite new answers (cutty), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh if these guys actually have made an album that in any way ends up being commercial or critical self-sabotage, more power to them. it seems like every alt/indie band that gets to about their stature these days gets rubber stamped "they did it again! 7.9!" reviews all around, it'd be refreshing for someone to actually shit the bed and/or piss everyone off for once.
― iggy figgy pudding pop (some dude), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
The song where you go on about how ace Dan Treacy is in the style of one of his recent appalling songs is surely post modernism reaching its lowest ebb.
^^^probably the most depressing three minutes of my life this year
― "Where's Momus? He could clear all of this up" (Tape Store), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"Someone's Missing" is easily my favorite song of the disc so far. It's over far too quickly, they should have just looped the whole thing once more. The rest is fun but less tuneful than the debut. I still don't understand how these guys got such tremendous hype power so fast.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
because "Time to Pretend" was a monster tune
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
so is what u all are saying is 'mgmt is over'? pheww was a crazy ride but im frankly kinda relieved
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
is it 'time to stop pretending'
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i think these dudes got tired of the ex-raver poon and are trying to get some of that 16-year old pittsburgh art school "i tried to get into sonic youth but i dunnnooo" action.
― johnnyo, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
"Time to Pretend" was great, but I liked "Kids" far less. "Weekend Wars" and esp "The Youth" were my fave tracks on the debut. It's a good second album, if you listened to the whole first one and not just the singles, you'll probably like it. I think they have a really amazing colossal record in them and this is "Congratulation" is definitely not it.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah see i like this new album because it sounds like a more realized "weekend wars".
― johnnyo, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link
btw seriously dudes don't waste your time handwringing about MGMT for fuck sakes. this is the only life you will ever have.
this band has only ever been good for clowning on.
― And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Joanna Newsom was in the "Kids" video, and the two singles I heard, including "Kids," were alright. that's about it.
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's like that song was cool...it's just some song that will make it on TV late night CD "best of the 00s" type shit...like "sex and candy" or "steal my sunshine" and shit...
just let it go, this band will never amount to shit, they had one good quasi hit
― And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah we should talk about good music. i'm sure that will make us feel better.
― johnnyo, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
xp except the 90s were flush with music like that ("rock" bands with an alternative or indie sensibility of some kind that could produce mainstream singles that lots of people enjoyed) and the 00s were....not. that to me is the frustrating thing about mgmt--they had three legitimately good singles and rather than pursuing that sound they're pretty much making bullshit afaict.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
huh, i just heard the single for the first time, and i don't understand this thread at all now.
― mizzell, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
also, the little flute solo is funny.
Kids is totally like 2kx "Sex and Candy". But if you haven't heard some of the other tracks you should listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EURZuzHyWb0
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
vid by Eric of Tim & Eric
seems like most people's opinions are colored by some idea about mgmt that doesn't have much to do with the actual music. the amount of hate they inspire is a sign that they're doing something interesting, imho. the first track on this new one i'm particularly digging... great melodies, harmonies, sonic textures, etc. what's to hate?
i also think it's weird these guys are seen as rock stars. they just seem like awkward stoners to me, which is endearing.
also, i love the cover art.
― akaky akakievich, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
the amount of hate they inspire is a sign that they're doing something interesting, imho.
rock solid logic
― And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
exactly. what's to hate? it just sounds like a musical album. made by a band. they made another album before this one that sounded like whatever, and now this one sounds like this. are people accusing this band of being reverse-sellouts or what is the problem?
a band had like two hits and then changed their sound a bit on the next album. is this offensive? unheard of?maybe you people should listen to the black crowes instead of this indie rock stuff. you're obviously getting confused.
― johnnyo, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
people are accusing them of not being very good
― goole, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
then i take it back, you probably won't like the black crowes either...
― johnnyo, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
love where this thread is going
― samosa gibreel, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
"twice as hard" > "kids"
― And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
it just sounds like a musical album.
ohhhh, i hadn't realized this is a musical album--this changes everything!
― samosa gibreel, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link