Panda Bear- Person Pitch

If you want a shit gimmick/musical magic eye/whatever, Pullhair Rubeye is your man. Eeurgh.

OTM - that record was fucking ridiculous, in a bad way. Panda Bear also fucking ridiculous, but in a good way. Also, since it hasn't been said - the smoothie analogy above is terrible.

^^^yes. reverend's forceful extraction of hardened shit >>>>>>>>>>> mordechai's finger smoothie

this album is like a ham sandwich

Ham sandwiches are delicious. This album is not. So no, this album is not like a ham sandwich.

"search for delicious"

I also seriously like Bob Dylan and Iron + Wine. Wtf is with the assumption that if you like one kind of music you can't like another? I hate Panda Bear on its own terms, not on some aesthetic principle that only MCR can be good.

1. everyone likes bob dylan.
2. iron and wine fans probably wouldnt enjoy person pitch.
3. everything you write on ilm would expect me to believe that this kind of record wouldnt be up your ally.

expect = lead

iron and wine fans probably wouldnt enjoy person pitch.. maybe. my girlfriend loves both though.

http://www.desktoprating.com/wallpapers/animal-wallpapers-pictures/panda-bear-wallpaper.jpg

aww

1. everyone likes bob dylan.

RONG

@chaki, also, while I have lots of questionable taste, much of that taste comes from listening to things with open ears. I've listened to Person Pitch about a dozen times now, hoping I'll suddenly "get it." It doesn't get better. Maybe I need to listen to it with someone who likes it, who is willing to deconstruct it for me as we listen. Because it just hurts my ears.

And this isn't proof of anything, but every friend of mine that I've played it for hasn't enjoyed it either. So I don't know who the audience for this album is, but it's no one I personally know. (Which is to say: Maybe if I knew people who liked this music, they'd be able to communicate their love of it to me.) But recommend a track and give me a brief explanation of why you like it, and I swear, I'll listen to it and give it a fair shake.

I don't like Bob Dylan, but I like him more than I like Panda Bear.

y'all were hating on this over on the year-end thread also. if you have really listened to it a dozen times then I salute you, that's more than I would do with a record I didn't like. FWIW, I think of it as much more of a psych/experimental thing than an indie rock album. then the long static parts make much more sense - "Good Girl" is probably my favorite just because of the way it sounds, not because of any specific structural or harmonic reasons. it's all about the explosions as I said way upthread.

I just relistened to Good Girl. I still don't get it. I can't understand what he's saying, it sounds like there are animal noises in the background, and the song is fairly precipitous musically. I feel like I'm hearing the same beat over and over in short 2 second intervals. And it keeps getting layered (swishing noises, what sounds like machine beeps, in the background I think I can hear some kind of sci-fi spaceship noise, and what sounds like the wash cycle on a washing machine). Frankly, it gives me a huge headache. It's not as bad when all that background noise falls away (around 2:30 in the song), but then it just sounds like he's singing gibberish, and you can just sense the annoying background about to burst forward.

iron and wine fans probably wouldnt enjoy person pitch.

?!?

I feel like I'm hearing the same beat over and over in short 2 second intervals. And it keeps getting layered

There may be a rather large swath of music that isn't up your alley.

Mordechai, there is thing, called "dance music", have you heard of it?

I love this album. Am a bit surprised that Pitchfork's albums of the year have been my albums of the year (this year equal favourite with Studio) two years running. Have I become more pitchforky since I started writing for them perhaps.

maybe pitchfork has become more tim f.

I can't understand what he's saying, it sounds like there are animal noises in the background, and the song is fairly precipitous musically. I feel like I'm hearing the same beat over and over in short 2 second intervals. And it keeps getting layered (swishing noises, what sounds like machine beeps, in the background I think I can hear some kind of sci-fi spaceship noise, and what sounds like the wash cycle on a washing machine).

if these are things you dislike in music, you and i have very, very different taste

max how do you feel about skye sweetnam?

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Well..I am happy there is an artist out there that actually speaks the truth about people!
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Yes, Skye truly is an inspiration in a world full of money grubbing self centered fools!

Not to bang on - actually, fuck it, to bang on and on and on and on and on - I'd like this an awful lot more if it wasn't so flat and one dimensional sounding, physically; I like the ideas, I like the melodies, I like the sonic juxtapositions and the actual 'tunes'. I don't like the fact that I can't climb inside it, that it feels like a plank of wood or pane of glass or sheet of steel. I can't put it on and feel it flow around me in three dimensions. Hence, ambient. Which I feel is a shame, because there's a lot of pop in this record, I just can't touch it.

i know some soldiers in here
where they at?
where they at?

Mordechai, there is thing, called "dance music", have you heard of it?

Are you fucking kidding me?

It's just that your description of "Good Girl" makes it sound like a great dance track.

Except for the part where it's awful. I don't found dance track vocals incomprehensible, the don't find them layered to the point where I get a headache, and I don't find the rhythm impossible to keep track of. In fact, I find dance tracks all the opposite of that.

the = then

Unless, of course, by dance you mean something entirely different than dance music. I consider dance music something you can dance to.

to shove aside the pitchfork year end list and the inevitable debates that will occur here in regards to it, at least Panda Bear had the only End of the Year Guestlist that was worth looking at. like 36 lists of pure, unadelterated almost masturbatorily 'pitchfork' lists, 3 that were good, and then his, which included both Pantha du Prince AND the Enjoi video!

Also, I don't even know who Skye is. I know she did a song with Tim Armstrong from Rancid. And I like Rancid. And I liked the song. But I've never heard anything else by her. So let's not mischaracterize my taste in music by saying that people I liked one song she participated in, OBVIOUSLY that explains why I don't like Panda Bear.

Goddamit. I don't know how the word "people" got in that paragraph. I should just go back to sleep.

ilx mindhive clusterfuck consensus: Person Pitch=#1 punching bag of 2007

or hivemind, if you will

It's probably my favorite cover art of the year, in any case.

Oh yeah.

Ok. Here's the deal. I've got open ears and I actually want to like this album. Whoever can get me to like this album (by pointing stuff out, by explaining things, by telling me to pay attention to a particular thing) wins. I will listen to anything recommended. If you want to give me a music history lesson, because that is what it takes to appreciate this album, go right ahead.

Hmm, I think if you can't see immediately what's great about 'Bros' then there's no real point in persisting.

dude if you've listened to it 12 times and you don't like, why continue trying? it doesn't matter if it makes every damn critics' top 5, if you don't like, you don't like it!

there's a lot of highly acclaimed albums this year that i have basically no interest in trying to like, and i'm fine with that.

there's lots of "it"s missing from my first couple sentences.

xposts

but see, you don't like it! every time somebody tries this you valiantly listen and report back with the same bleak prognosis (which again is to your credit, although it kinda looks like banging your head against a wall at this point). It's OK to not get it or like it! I hate most of the top records this year, including some you probably really like. do you listen to stuff like Zoviet France? because I think throwing out all the "indie" pre-conceptions and treating this record like pure sound really is your best bet.

also, nobody can understand the words in "Good Girl". they are backwards and the lyrics are not important to the experience of the song.

i.e. what Baaderonix said.

I guess my problem is, I've never heard an album I didn't understand as little as this one. Even albums I've disliked (and I railed pretty hard against Joanna Newsom last year) I still got what was there. I still saw what people saw there, and then rejected it. This I can't even see what's there. People compare it to the Beach Boys, but I love the Beach Boys.

I like this live download thing more than Person Pitch. More beats!

-- mizzell, Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:37 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Link

I stick by this and think that maybe the people who aren't pleased with the production of PP whould check it out.

should check it out

This I can't even see what's there.

who on earth are you friends with?? like, who do you spend your time with that youve actually never met anyone who likes music like this?

sorry i hate to add to the pile-on but like... panda bear is not "out there" at all by any means. there are a lot of pretty basic things at work here that people tend to really like. if you actually cant even "see what's there" it makes me feel like you grew up in a bubble.

i walked around listening to this while stoned a lot this year

Yeah. Whatever. I just did a search for Panda Bear on my college facebook network and not one result came up. So I did a search on a friend's college facebook network, and not one result came up. Neither of our colleges are enormous, so that's one factor, but these aren't tiny 40 person universities either. Out of around 6,000 people (assuming 50% of people create facebook pages and list their music), NO ONE likes Panda Bear. So I'd say it's pretty "out there."

dude, get a hobby.