Sonic Youth new album "Rather Ripped"

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but without the open ended instrumental parts

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― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

re: dirty, track 2 (incinerate) recalls chapel hill right before the hokey gung ho riff enters. very insignificant similarity though

― mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, "Pink Steam" is seven minutes, and the vocals don't kick in until after five minutes. There's that.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

its solid. im happy. the end.

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

YSI?

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

it's still more or less the same thing they've been doing since 2002, but without the open ended instrumental parts. It's pretty much another really good Sonic Youth album.

can't see these two statements co-existing, but i'll wait till i hear it. been excited about this album for a while, and the good word has me psyched.

i really have to hear that "church boy" song BTW. i too had always wondered why "rain on tin" and "new hampshire" sounded so similar in spots.

― rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, the thing that is holding over from the last two albums is the style of melody and harmony, and the clean guitar tones. The last three albums really sound like they are deliberately writing music for the summer, maybe because that's when they do the most touring.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah there's something comforting about the Coco era of the last few albums, knowing that every 2 years, they're going to release an album in time for a summer tour.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The Sonic Youth website has a different version of the cover art than the one posted above. I'm not sure how to post the image, but the website is
http://www.sonicyouth.com/main/rippedpop.html

― twoheadedboy, Friday, 14 April 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.sonicyouth.com/main/images/rippedweb.jpg

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

that is WORSE than the one above

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha that looks like a Rancid cover!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

did sonic youth sign to epitaph?

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe this is another one of their jokes?

― twoheadedboy, Friday, 14 April 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

interesting, that same image was on flyers being handed out after the rhys chatham gig at SXSW. yeah, i like the other cover better.

― rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

You people are mad. This one is clearly a more iconic (and better) cover.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the other cover suits the music and the band much better. This thing looks like a flyer, the other looks like an album cover.

I really like how "Or" ends with a series of lines that sound like interview questions being directed at the band, concluding with "what comes first, the music or the words?"

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The amount of love for recent Sonic Youth coexisting with the amount of disdain for recent R.E.M. is interesting to me.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The harmony of the guitar and bass on the 'Incinerate' riff is great

― def zep (calstars), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't imagine why you'd be confused about this, Tim. Sonic Youth haven't recorded a bunch of MOR pop ballads aimed at Adult Album Alternative radio, but that's been R.E.M.'s specialty since Up. People are icked out by the AAA thing, and though I will defend a lot of R.E.M.'s post-Berry output, I can't blame them. If I didn't already really like R.E.M., I'd be writing that stuff off too.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, I thought ILM loved MOR pop ballads.

"aimed at Adult Album Alternative radio"

Come on Matthew, do you really think they're "aiming" at this? I think they're just doing what they want.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

geeta OTM. Please tell me they're not using this cover (just because, yes, it seems so wrong for their sound).

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Tim, let me put it another way - Sonic Youth are still making music that seems cool, whereas R.E.M. seem to be going out of their way to make the least cool music that they possibly can.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, that looks like the opening credit sequence in David Cronenberg's Spider as depicted by a Hellcat records graphic artist.

― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?

http://www.murmurs.com/talk/attachment.php?attachmentid=44582&stc=1

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: If they write a song as good as "I Wanted to Be Wrong" or "Aftermath," I'd like to be notified of that as well.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sort of fascinated by the lyrics to "Or." The verses seem totally unrelated aside from the "or" question at the end, but they are both pretty evocative. There's some really odd semi-pervy schoolgirl imagery in that first verse...

In your mouth, a wad of cash
Moist roll of hundreds
Fingers through your hair
Silver quarters drop
To your pleated skirt
Cannisters of whipped cream
In your sweater pockets
A look of space and total life
Ready....or......not

The plan is to go to DC and hang out
Go see girls rock
How long is the tour?
What time you guys playin'?
Where you going next?
What comes first?
The music...or...the words?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to tim: is that the riddler?

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking like that, I'll leave.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the Sister-like guitar part in "Reena" that starts 2mins into the song - goosebumps...

― willem -- (willem), Saturday, 15 April 2006 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

this record makes me happy. also, why are there some serious VU moments on here?

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 15 April 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, there's a guitar part in "...Rapture" that is very late period Velvet Underground. I'm really happy about that, for some reason.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

this record presents the best Kim Gordon's songs in years.
she rules this one.

― observer server, Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

hey,it's been more than 2 hours since the last post!
a new record..
does it mean u dont have nothing to say anymore?
no way.

― xonics, Saturday, 15 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

some of us aren't on the Oink pre-release leak gravy train.

― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i like old fashioned people.
they are cool.
like old fashioned bands are..

― xonics, Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: If they write a song as good as "I Wanted to Be Wrong" or "Aftermath," I'd like to be notified of that as well.

There are about 20 of them on the last couple SY albums.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

ha! yay!

"Reena" is terrific. This all sounds very late 80s/early 90s SY, a good thing. It's not surprising or risky or difficult or groundbreaking at all, but I like it so much that I don't care. It also sounds like late-70s rock & pop FM radio.

― xero (xero), Saturday, 15 April 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

finally heard it. so mellow and laid-back and pretty! perfect music to ring in the summer.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 17 April 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

So like is this currently only available at 128kbps? on purpose?

― Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, if people are going to leak anticipated albums, they may as well do it at lower bitrates.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

listening to 'Nurse' right now. Looking forward to getting my legal copy before i hear anything of 'Rather Ripped.' Worth the wait...

― Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, I love you Tim, but ask any nerd, there's a difference between "weird" and "cool."

― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?"

is that the d00d from Psychotica?!!

had the weekend w/ this album- definitely laid back! not in a bad way. the most agreeable kim songs in a LONG while. i really wish they'd just let Thurston sing everything. his voice's just too perfect. otherwise this album's really seeming like a continuation from the last 2. not bad, not earthshattering. i'd like to see em play it live.

― eedd, Monday, 17 April 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i really like lee's track on this.

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 17 April 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Lee's tracks are always great.

Now that I've had 5 or so days to chew on this album pretty well, I've convinced myself they haven't made one this wholly appealing (to my senses, anyway) since Goo. Murray Street came the closest I guess.

I'm almost embarassed to admit I've never seen them live, but I think this year will be the year. I absolutely must see these songs performed.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh Johnny, you've really been missing out all these years! I've seen them a whole bunch of times in the past eleven years or so, and they are always fantastic. You won't be let down, definitely make the trip.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Tim, let me put it another way - Sonic Youth are still making music that seems cool, whereas R.E.M. seem to be going out of their way to make the least cool music that they possibly can.

One can interpret this in a number of ways.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

a banal,mediocre indie record by a banal band, that should disband already.
am i the only one who see it?

some changes that sonic youth should do but never will of course:
-change the drummer! those drumming schticks are cliche's and boring.
steve shelly is not a good drummer, face it.
-get a new producer, but not an obvious one, that will break them new grounds, (like phil spector with the ramones or something)
-play guitar as they used to in the 80's - is this really thurston moore and lee renaldo - 2 of the greatest guitarist ever playing here?
or maybe they just got older...

but i guess im in the minority - lots of people will buy the record, and everyone will be happy, and earn more money.
sorry to ruin the party.

― my life with the, Monday, 17 April 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

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