I'd like to use Linux but...

is that what you call it

A gay friend calls it my fag bag.

Two PCs, ^ running Xandros, the other running Ubuntu. I still cannot believe how quickly and smoothly and efficiently and faultlessly and awesomely everything works.

Every time I go anywhere near Vista it does at least three unnecessary stupid annoying totally shit things every minute.

Oh yeah, Xandros is the one with a swastika-like logo.

oh wow, so it is.

so i opted against getting one for now

but it may magically turn up as a grad gift 4 me

i'd like to use linux but i don't want to have to backup/delete my entire hard drive to install the damn thing. also, i'm too dumb to understand the documentation.

Get one LiveCD and just boot off it.

Also, what documentation?

so i'm downloading an iso for CentOS right now and PRAYING TO GOD everything goes ok. (crosses fingers)

Also, what documentation?

this

I recently upgraded my laptop to something OpenBSD would recognize, so I no longer have to run Linux on anything. Rah.

Also, what documentation?

this

-- Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 3 April 2008 14:15 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

wtf? Just get an Ubuntu LiveCD and boot off it. This gives you a complete Linux desktop environment, and nothing on your HDD is touched. If everything runs and all your hardware works properly, you can choose to install it by clicking a few icons. No documentation required.

Also Red Hat Enterprise is for business. If you want a Red Hat for home use, look at Fedora 7.

just might do that.

As you can see, I know fuckall about linux. But i want to get better!

Heh, that's cool.

Seriously, grab Ubuntu 7.10 from here (select Desktop version 7.10). It'll send you a 700Mb .iso file which you can burn to a CD as bootable. Then restart your PC (booting off the CD obv) and it'll give you a desktop complete with all the main applications ready to run, so you can check sound video, network, etc. If it all works and you want to install it properly, you can choose to click the Install icon on the desktop.

Ubuntu is probably the more compatible and best supported version right now. The new one's out in three weeks if you'd rather wait.

thanks for the help. i've heard nothing but good things about ubuntu.

ubuntu is good but nothing wrong with centos either. i use centos and fedora

They're all good. I think Ubuntu's the easiest to get going, though.

Thinking of going for the RHCT or RHCE, anyone got this?

http://ospublish.constantvzw.org/

I went for the RHCT and fell over at the networking bit because I've never done networking.

(that was for Red Hat 9 btw, so yonks ago)

How hard is it? Its a full practical right?

Yeah. Mine was either three or five days, I can't remember.

(the course, not the test)

I'd like to use Linux, but... AND I AM!!! WOOT!!! I successfully installed CentOS on my new computer and am now decent in vi and I'm about 1/4 of the way through Learning Perl. I guess you could say I'm going to grok perl, because if you don't grok perl, you are pitiful.

Not that I have any clue what "grok" means, but...

good work mang

Yeah, nice. How are you going with the more plebeian apps?

RedHat is shit

Also Red Hat Enterprise is for business. If you want a Red Hat for home use, look at Fedora 7.

-- Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 April 2008 14:26 (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

All other things being equal, I would definately be more inclined to push someone off a cliff if I knew they "grokked" pearl.

("grok" is a Stranger in a Strange Land hippy-sci-fi reference, BTW.)

Also Red Hat Enterprise is for business. If you want a Red Hat for home use, look at Fedora 7.

Put down the kool-aid.

Here's what you do if you want a red hat for home use:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/745/imageuploadimagezx5.jpg

And don't skimp on the broach.

Finally something we agree on!

Fedora is fucking garbage

linux is for guys who like to fiddle with stuff and find it secretly thrilling when they get to sigh in exasperation when the girlfriend can't figure out how to work his computer.

libcrypt, I would have spent a total of six minutes with Fedora 7. You won't get an endorsement out of me.

What a Lovely Generalization! xp

linux is for guys who like to fiddle with stuff and find it secretly thrilling when they get to sigh in exasperation when the girlfriend can't figure out how to work his computer.

If this were the extent of it, I'd be content to let the Linux guys have their fun. The fact that I'm expected to accept it professionally as the solution to every technological problem under the sun can chafe me a bit at times. E.g., "this is our ancient HP cluster. It's terribly stable, but HP-UX is just so....OLD! Thankfully, we're going to migrate to something new! Like LINUX! Also, we'll save a ton by buying the shittiest hardware we can find which we'll then have to duplicate because we need to cluster it on shitty Linux. Possibly quadruple it, because we're stuck with shitty Linux clustering technologies."

my boyfriend installed ubuntu linux on my old laptop and i'm amazed at what it can do now. a shittyass computer that was formerly only good for card games can now go online again, at impressive speeds. it plays nicely with my printer, unlike my macbook pro (fuck finding the right driver).

my sister is a hardcore "linux guy" who's been running it for a decade. she installed ubuntu on an old laptop for her 85-yr-old mother in law. this woman is so old she was flying supply planes in WWII. (there were female aviators. look it up.) she can handle linux just fine.

xp

Oh hi honey!

You know, I hadn't mentioned it before, but I was actually really disappointed that you figured out to use the linux distro I installed on your machine. I was soooo looking forward to being exasperated and you being lost. (wtf.)

linux is for guys who like to fiddle with stuff

ok, that's hard to dispute. I especially like to pretty-up the desktop, make my own icons for things (note to self: the Gimp has got to go) and stuff like that. And, almost incidentally, I've also learned a lot about networking, basic unix commands, hardware drivers (and... ahem... the lack thereof), memory management, and on and on. I have said it before: I never really understood how a computer -- any computer, really -- works until I started messing with Linux.

^ this

Also desktop linux is fine for 98 percent of home users. Servers, not so much.

NSFW yet sooo geeky

just threw ubuntu over my fedora 7 install. after 1 hiccup, all was well. i'm impressed. even fedora was easy, but this was arguably even easier.

anybody use virtual box?

It's funny how the left penguin is looking @ nipple like OMG my belly is a boob and I'm not sure how I feel about it!

vaguely Cronenberg

ha! bodypaint linux girl was my chat icon for a while, but it had two big problems: nsfw, and even if it wasn't, as a chat icon you can't tell wtf it is. Ah well. I'll find a use for that image one day, I'm determined.

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