"The Wire" on HBO

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the first seven episodes made available for preview

ok, so they're previewing this season a little less than the last one, but not by much (especially since this season is the shortest yet, only 10 episodes).

Alex in Baltimore, Monday, 31 December 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

bunk did a waiting for godot production in a fema park or something in n.o. i think.

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tehresa, Monday, 31 December 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah he did, in the lower 9th ward on a street corner. like 1200 people showed up (i was working, sadly) and everyone was raving about it for a while. whether that's because it was really good or because we are really starved for that kind of stuff right now i can't say. it was still an awesome idea.

adam, Monday, 31 December 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Premiere already HBO On Demand apparently.

Alex in SF, Monday, 31 December 2007 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

not in HD, i'll pass

cutty, Monday, 31 December 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

You can grab it off Usenet right now.

Leee, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

ep 1 2 and uh 5 seem to be up on piratebay http://thepiratebay.org/search/wire/0/3/200

bunch of commenters claiming its fake w/o dl then people saying they watched - seems legit!

jhøshea, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

bunk did a waiting for godot production in a fema park or something in n.o. i think.

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-- tehresa, Monday, December 31, 2007 8:48 PM

profile of the show in nyer

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, October 15, 2007 4:13 PM

apparently contains spoilers for s5 that i didn't even notice?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

not in HD, i'll pass

The Wire is not shot in HD. Waiting won't make any difference.

Jouster, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Yay Norman's back too. :)

Leee, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Thank you for this; I'm really looking forward to going home tonight.
6 and 7 appear to have leaked as well; once 3 and 4 hit, it's party time.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I got all excited and started downloading eps 1&2 last night before remembering I haven't seen Season 4 yet.

:(

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

You have nothing to feel bad about. Season 4 is a revelation as to the potential of what television can be.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

friend watched 1 and said good -sets everything up for the season. i am getting so antsy!

tehresa, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Hit me up, Hoos.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 January 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

what's the deal with 1,2 and then 5,6,7 getting leaked. WHAT HAPPENED TO 3 & 4?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 3 January 2008 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link

from the piratebay comments (grain of salt):

mpinphilly at 2008-01-03 00:28 CET:
First, major props to Warcloud on the massive re-up.
Second, peoples, from what I understand by reading other online fora, HBO gave Eps 1 and 2 (Eps 51 and 52 in the overall count of Wire Eps) on one screener DVD and Eps 5, 6, and 7 (55-57) on another. I.e., they didn't give out Eps 3 and 4 (53 and 54). Smart, arguably, but this means it's unlikely we'll see 3 and 4 until they air, or at least go "On Demand" the Monday prior to airing (they should be available On Demand Jan 14 and Jan 21). So all you peoples need to decide what to do. I'm waiting until I see 4 to move on to 5-7...

jhøshea, Thursday, 3 January 2008 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm waiting until I see 4 to move on to 5-7...

Doesn't this go without saying?

Leee, Thursday, 3 January 2008 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

not if you're one of the many people seeding 5-7, i guess!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 3 January 2008 03:38 (sixteen years ago) link

the sound quality on ep 01 is atrocious

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Freakonomics blogger watches episode 1 with real bangers:
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/09/what-do-real-thugs-think-of-the-wire/ spoilers obviously, with ep2 spoilers in the comments.

Leee, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

there are spoilers for everything that's been leaked in the comments

31g, Friday, 11 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

don't know if this ever got linked but here's the full interview
http://www.believermag.com/issues/200708/?read=interview_simon

am0n, Saturday, 12 January 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

yay another useless comparison to dickens.

hstencil, Saturday, 12 January 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

high fidelolity

am0n, Saturday, 12 January 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I like this bit:

My standard for verisimilitude is simple and I came to it when I started to write prose narrative: fuck the average reader. I was always told to write for the average reader in my newspaper life. The average reader, as they meant it, was some suburban white subscriber with two-point-whatever kids and three-point-whatever cars and a dog and a cat and lawn furniture. He knows nothing and he needs everything explained to him right away, so that exposition becomes this incredible, story-killing burden. Fuck him. Fuck him to hell.

caek, Saturday, 12 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I have a hard time taking Simon's 'the decline of journalism' as seriously as other topics covered by the show - when was this golden age of respectable newspaper coverage?

The tradition is more tied up in partisanship and yellow journalism and Wm. Randolph Hearst isn't it?

milo z, Saturday, 12 January 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

no, simon is describing modern journalism, aka the "tradition" of 20th century non-partisan journalism, eg. lippmann, dewey, etc.

hstencil, Saturday, 12 January 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i dont know that its the absence of "nonpartisan" journalism--the hero editor at the wire's sun is pretty clearly partisan and wants his articles to reflect that--so much as it is the (apparent) shift of newspapers from defending the interests of "the public" against the gov't and corporations to defending the interests of those corporations and publishing weepy stories about kids in wheelchairs that is meant by "decline of journalism"

max, Sunday, 13 January 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

this isn't directly related to the wire, but it should ring a bell: sociology prof hangs out with charismatic leader of a crack-slinging gang for a year. sociology prof leads the gang for a day. pretty interesting.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 13 January 2008 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link

talk version of that: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/29

caek, Sunday, 13 January 2008 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

no fair dropping Freakonomics content without warning

milo z, Sunday, 13 January 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

yo could this be the thread where stick-the-mud week-by-week viewers of s05 convene? apparently the dedicated series five thread has been contaminated w. spoilerz?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 13 January 2008 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^ That please.

Mordy, Sunday, 13 January 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

start of e01 wasn't really doing it -- they have to reintroduce everyone -- and also the pre-credits bit was taken directly from 'homicide: lots', only with added Cynicism About America. but then, probably when carcetti fronted on daniels and the states attorney, or whens sergei came up, it was back to awesomeness.

wtf with the fire huh. lost-esque.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 13 January 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"puts the b in subtle" from herc = ha

W i l l, Sunday, 13 January 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm on-board for keeping this a spoiler-free (ie, realtime, regular HBO schedule) feed. IE, we can talk about s05e02, which aired today.

Have to say, the stuff with McNulty at the end was really, really baffling and disappointing. Felt like such a dumb, unjustified, out-of-character act, and felt dangerously like a jump-the-shark moment (albeit v late in the series!)

sean gramophone, Monday, 14 January 2008 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

goddamn, it's hard to watch Bubs now

milo z, Monday, 14 January 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago) link

mcnulty's plan seems silly. maybe part of it is that he's drinking all the time. i guess hamsterdam was silly too

daria-g, Monday, 14 January 2008 06:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i think we should all applaud milo for being brave enough to share.

fuck xpost

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 14 January 2008 06:58 (sixteen years ago) link

gramophone otm the mcnulty stuff is really bad.

31g, Monday, 14 January 2008 07:06 (sixteen years ago) link

pretty lame - I suppose that's the setup for the big media frenzy. What a tangled web we weave, oooh.

Where's Omar?

dave 2¼, Monday, 14 January 2008 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

mcnulty's all self-destructive and hates the system, his attempts at getting the case re-opened make sense in the context of his character. i figure he thinks he's smarter than everyone else though this will likely be the end of him. lol @ avon playing the west side 4 life card with marlo. i wonder if avon is setting up marlo somehow.

omar little, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought he was just being a sarcastic asshole to Marlo.

Dan I., Monday, 14 January 2008 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, I think Avon is sincere with that "Fuck those Westside Bitches" line. Marlo showed up for his sentencing, after all, but not Prop Joe or even Slim Charles.

Oilyrags, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

im w/dan he was obv just fucking w/marlo (and getting paid)

jhøshea, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

he was being an asshole because he doesn't give a fuck but playing at bygones being bygones, i.e. "so what's new with you?" "the game is still the game". also lol @ marlo's non-reaction to the insults of "boris".

omar little, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

it was pretty funny how marlo was being all smooth getting in touch w/serge then he shows up at the prison and gets nothing but grief

jhøshea, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

uh but marlo totally won that little exchange. (hundred grand notwithstanding.)

one of my friends pointed out that last time we saw avon, really, he was loading up tons of guns to kill Marlo. i am not sure that Avon is as harmless as he looks.

<I>mcnulty's all self-destructive and hates the system, his attempts at getting the case re-opened make sense in the context of his character. i figure he thinks he's smarter than everyone else though this will likely be the end of him. l</i>

uh but EVERY SEASON his "big case" gets shut down, and every season he just breaches the chain of command or does something clever and self-sacrificing (but NEVER anti-justice or "crooked") to ruffle feathers. but in this case he doesn't even TRY to talk to his pet judge, or the press, or anything, he instead puts in motion a vague "serial killer" plotline that may draw attention to the weathered police force but which has no relation to his personal marlo vendetta case, and just seems incompetent and FULL of flaws. i'm so used to lauding the Wire for being smarter than me - and its characters by and large make such canny, but self-interested, decisions. but here's a decision that seems obviously idiotic, and way below mcnulty. it doesn't help him in any specific way, and in the real world it so clearly wouldn't play out right.

sean gramophone, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

uh but marlo totally won that little exchange. (hundred grand notwithstanding.)

sure but for someone who has a whole family killed cause he heard someone maybe said he sucked dik - getting shit on by avon and serge like that mustve been pretty unbearable

jhøshea, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link


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