Most shocking Rock & Roll Hall of Fame snubs (according to CNN.com)

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in fairness, almost everyone made better music than The Sex Pistols, including pretty much everyone they inspired and musical projects taken up by Pistols members after the band broke up

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

and Yanni

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm 30, been a music-obsessed fan for about 10 years, and I just realized I haven't one single song from Rush. And the only song I heard from Alice Cooper is that "School's Out" song, but that was from a movie (I think). I never listened to classic rock radio growing up, so I blame that on my ignorance.

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

*for my ignorance* Gah

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

you never Rush?

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Is there a minimum placed on who gets elected?

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not crazy into Rush, but you know, a couple drinks, the right situation ... who knows?

great post

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper's greatest songs (there were several) were on the level with Dylan's, the Stones, Neil's, the Pistols' and the Velvets'. And he made great music for more than two years. (Tons of it between 1971 and 1973, right; but at least sporadically back to 1969 and through 1980.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Depeche Mode have sold 25 million more albums than Journey?? Like, in a world that includes North America? Hm, maybe it's cause Journey's hits are mostly on a couple of albums?

Sundar, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

That number was pretty shocking to me, too!

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

xp And this is hardly the first time that argument's been made; it's really not that far-fetched. (Rolling Stone Record Guide gave Alice's Greatest Hits LP five stars out of five, way back in 1979. And it's not hard at all to hear his early '70s hits as a direct precursor of punk, except way more young American actually heard them.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

DP have put out like twice as many albums as journey did w/perry, maybe that accounts for something

hobbes, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i forgot HI DERE sang for Journey

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

the best of times, IMO

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll check me out some Alice Cooper. Think I'll continue to be ignorant with Teh Rush.

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

xost

fwiw, arnel pineda's login names have never been as funny as yours

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw man, just listen to 'Freewill' one time and come back to us.

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"Freewill" is the "just the tip" of Rush songs

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I like arguing about the HOF, so I like this thread, but I've got to head out for a while...Alice Cooper's greatest songs were, more or less, "School's Out," "Eighteen," "Elected," "Under My Wheels," "Hello, Hooray," "No More Mr. Nice Guy," maybe a few others. I wouldn't put them in the same universe as the best dozen songs from Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, or the Velvets. (The Sex Pistols comparison is complicated by how small their sample is, so I'd narrow the comparison to a half-dozen songs and make the same claim.) I realize that's kind of a boring, predictable conclusion, but boring and predictable can be true too. As for Alice's great music up to 1980, I think it's fair to say that, for most casual observers, Alice Cooper barely exists after "Only Women Bleed."

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper's greatest songs were, more or less, "School's Out," "Eighteen," "Elected," "Under My Wheels," "Hello, Hooray," "No More Mr. Nice Guy," maybe a few others

see...this is where your post starts to go off the rails. (not that those aren't great songs)

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't put them in the same universe as the best dozen songs from Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, or the Velvets.

(and i would)

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Everyone's picking on me, so I'm gathering up my toys and going home! (Would another boring old guy please get on here and help me out?)

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of sad that no one is biting on my "Yanni is better than The Sex Pistols" troll bait

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

shocked at kiss not being in tbh. growing up they were little more than some scary dudes on lunchboxes but..they were on a lot of lunchboxes iirc.

This is Dave Marsh's doing: "Kiss is not a great band, Kiss was never a great band, Kiss never will be a great band, and I have done my share to keep them off the ballot."

Can't say I disagree. And I like Kiss.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw man, just listen to 'Freewill' one time and come back to us.

― heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:13 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Done. It's alright. Not really my cup of tea, though. The guitar freakout about 3 minutes in was cool.

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

listening to "halo of flies" right now, god this is great

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of sad that no one is biting on my "Yanni is better than The Sex Pistols" troll bait

It set off my "back away from the crazy man and don't make any sounds" instinct.

Religious Embolism (WmC), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I could just never get over the cognitive dissonance as a kid of collecting Kiss cards, comics and magazines for a year or more and then finally hearing what they actually sounded like. This tepid boogie rock is the sound monsters and demons make?!?!?!

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of sad that no one is biting on my "Yanni is better than The Sex Pistols" troll bait

― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What would an insufferable music snob definitely NOT have in their collection?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

ILM in being too concerned about being perceived as "unhip" to respond to trollbait shocker.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

FUCK YOU DAN SEXY PISTOLS RUUUUUULES

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I speak for every human on the planet when I say we would be unreservedly thrilled to see Yanni inducted into the RnR Hall of Fame.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, while tigers gave him a blow job

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

and F-14's screamed overhead

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I prefer to vote for Cheap Trick.

da croupier, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I could just never get over the cognitive dissonance as a kid of collecting Kiss cards, comics and magazines for a year or more and then finally hearing what they actually sounded like. This tepid boogie rock is the sound monsters and demons make?!?!?!

― heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:28 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, I felt that same let-down. My first KISS record was "Let's Put The X in Sex" too.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Also that weird german pop star (Haino? Heino?)
Google gives way more varied hits for "weird german pop star" than I thought there would be.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

By which I mean, "which only increased the tepidness", not that it was your first record also.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I think not until I heard Boredoms' Soul Discharge did I realize what I had imagined KISS would sound like.

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

OK then who was the rockingest band to appear on scooby doo?
http://media.kissonline.com/non_secure/user/images/letters/20091019/051133_phantom_scooby_doo_unmask_1/large.jpg

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

pffft....KISS ain't got nothing on Jerry Reed. recognize.

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Don Knotts sing?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I think he sang in Incredible Mr. Limpet but don't remember a Limpet/Scooby crossover.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly though i can't really get mad at bands not getting in the hall of fame.

it's not the "best bands", it's just "these are the kind of bands that get in the hall of fame."

like the hollies? i mean...they might as well just say "hey did your band exist from 1966 to 1969? were you semi-popular? you're in!"

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Until a year or so I would've agreed, but a friend played me about an hour of Hollies shit which straight blew my mind.

(Tho I guess you're not so much belittling the Hollies there)

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper's greatest songs were, more or less, "School's Out," "Eighteen," "Elected," "Under My Wheels," "Hello, Hooray," "No More Mr. Nice Guy," "Ballad Of Dwight Fry," "Be My Lover," "Billion Dollar Babies," "Black Juju," "Caught In A Dream," "Clones (We're All)," "Dance Yourelf To Death," "Desperado," "Elected," "Generation Landslide," "Hallowed Be Thy Name," "Halo Of Flies," "How You Gonna See Me Now," "I Never Cry," "Is It My Body," "Killer," "Model Citizen," "Muscle Of Love," "Teenage Lament '74," "Welcome To My Nightmare," "You And Me," and maybe a few others. (Haven't pulled on Easy Action or Pretties For You in quite a while, I admit; somebody else can handle those.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Depeche Mode have sold 25 million more albums than Journey?? Like, in a world that includes North America? Hm, maybe it's cause Journey's hits are mostly on a couple of albums?

That DM number was for "albums + singles" though, not sure what the breakdown is there, but it's still a shitload of albums.

I'm still in the closet re: Rush, which is even more shameful on account of my being Canadian.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

xp And "Only Women Bleed" obviously (a major feminist statement!), but clemenza already mentioned that one.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper and Mott the Hoople were as good as The Stooges, Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, to name three other bands from the time that weren't taken seriously, but are unimpeachable nowadays. This will get sorted out eventually.

bendy, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link


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