Talk Talk: Spirit of Eden V.S. Laughing Stock

Laughing Stock the song, by Grandaddy, is good

Nick ffs Runeii is fucking astonishing and as I keep saying its air of finality is absolute - it's one of the most certain pieces of music I've heard

But it's so uncertain! So hesitant, and tempting.

it repeats the very, very simple and beautiful structure it has, and redoubles the final piano motif - doesn't get more comprehensive than that - zen-like iirc

there is literally nothing left to say - not many bands have even approached this point let alone reached it

Voted Laughing Stock. It's the one I heard first.

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I’ll pretty much buy any album going if someone tells me it sounds like ‘Laughing Stock’.

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Can you give some examples of these?

Spirit of Eden?

bark psychosis amirite

also hood - rustic houses, forlorn valleys and the occasional catherine wheel song

neither are that close, though. nobody's close.

Autistic Daughters - Jealousy and Diamond

Voted for Spirit of Eden, but Runeii is one of the most perfect things ever.

My SoE/LS songs poll from a couple years back: The Spirit of Eden/Laughing Stock Individual Songs Poll

Also, a previous SoE vs. LS poll: Talk Talk: 'Spirit of Eden' vs. 'Laughing Stock'

I voted for Laughing Stock but they are both in my top 30 albums of all time.

For me Talk Talk are one of the few artists I can think of that got better with each album.

not enough love for "the colour of spring"

i prefer Laughing Stock but just barely.

not enough love for "the colour of spring"

This is my personal fav. Talk Talk album.

Splits the difference between '80s new-wave/synth pop and eventually stripping the medium to its essential elements. ;-)

oh, you mean post rock?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(...yes?)

you're wrong anyway. "the colour of spring" is a lost balearic classic. ;)

I got both of these at the same time & they sort of bleed into one monumental mega-album for me, so this is pretty much a coin toss.

These will always be their canonical albums, but it is worth mentioning that, as "transitional" albums go, The Colour of Spring is one of the best.

lol xp

listened to these back to back today and it's laughing stock by a good distance for me i'm surprised to say.

really love the drumming on both of these records. fantastic stuff.

^^^yes

whenever i want to imagine a really resonant, thick drum sound, such as when an oil can is struck, i imagine these records

Laughing Stock for me, they're both incredible although I agree that the cowbell in 'Desire' is off-putting.

guys what the fuck, that drum solo in 'desire' is transcendent

i hate the drum solo in desire. not just the cowbell. but mainly the cowbell.

-_-

def transcendant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmaikgBQBBQ

^ dunno why you would want this but it's a version of 'Desire' w/o the drums

when the harmonica does a kinda donkey-bray feedback oscillation thing in the final run-through of the chorus and then reverses its pattern and then the organ comes back in, it is like music has been won

that's a failed experiment IMO but the same dude has tried to turn After The Flood into a 4-minute pop single! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8SRsWbv0tA&feature=related

...nah

Yeah, not sure what's up w/ that.

Voting Spirit of Eden because it's the one where they made the break, and therefore more astonishing even if Laughing Stock is arguably an improvement on it in internal terms. Easily one of my favorite albums in the universe, too.

Laughing Stock gets the nod for me because it's got this great flow to it, where throughout the first half of the album the tension gets bigger and biger and the noisy sax in during "After the Flood" and it comes to a head in "Taphead" and then the problems get resolved during "New Grass" and the protagonist finds peace with "Runeii." Probably totally unintentional, of course, but I still like to interpret it that way. So anyway, no you can't change any of the song orders on Laughing Stock, but you could on Eden. And yes I am a total rockist bastard.

Yeah, "Laughing Stock" by Love is great.

"oh fred in bed.."

Spirit Of Eden. I heard it first, and it changed my view of what music could be. Laughing Stock is an album where I appreciate the craftmanship, but it doesn't really move me. I listen to it for admiration, not enjoyment. SOE is inspiring and enjoyable.

Laughing Stock

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voted for Laughing Stock bcz of Arthur Lee...

BTW, if you love these albums and haven't checked out O'Rang (Lee Harris & Paul Webb - aka the Not Mark Hollises of Talk Talk), you should run to your local music dealer and correct that immediately. Both O'Rang albums are marvelous.

and out of print?

Available as downloads from eMusic last I checked, though. Maybe Amazon MP3 and/or itunes as well, dunno.

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Wow, the incredibly thrilling thing about these results is that there are 67 people on here who care about these two records!

Haha right down the goddamn middle or close enough.

Ah, I feel like my 11th hour Laughing Stock listen (and conclusion that I just prefer SoE*) paid off. Unless you wanted a draw all along.

*Heard SoE first, then the Mark Hollis and Colour of Spring, then LS.