Most shocking Rock & Roll Hall of Fame snubs (according to CNN.com)

Jedward

(serious answer: Spectrum City)

if my personal tastes were dictating, it would likely be a toss-up between T. Rex and ELO. Cheap Trick & Public Enemy would be great. (i mean insofar as RnR Hall of Fame induction is "great")

but dude, Rush deserves this.

wouldn't be suprised if the Rock Hall was just consideringYo! Bum Rush The ShowNation Of Millions their recorded debut and are waiting until20122013

Did that above thing make sense? What I'm trying to say is PE will get in without question, but 25 years after Nation Of Millions.

so elegibility is 25 years after group/band/artist inception or 25 years after breathrough landmark work?

If the Stooges made it in, Alice Cooper and Kiss can't be far behind, give 'em another year or so. I'll bet Rush and PE will make it in time too. And anyways, this really isn't about who deserves admission, assuming induction is even a desirable thing, which nobody on this thread really thinks it is. So, based on my impression of the HoF, I think the most truly surprising (not surprising enough to be "shocking") omission is Chicago.

tbh the only band on here whose inclusion in a hall of fame would surprise me is RHCP

What about Yes? Blue Oyster Cult? Of the crew in the poll, I gotta go with Rush.

Really? I think their inclusion would be one of the least surprising. According to Wikipedia, RHCP have sold 55 million albums ... who on that list has sold more? Kiss, Frampton, and Bon Jovi maybe?

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CHEAP FUCKING TRICK

Really? I think their inclusion would be one of the least surprising. According to Wikipedia, RHCP have sold 55 million albums ... who on that list has sold more? Kiss, Frampton, and Bon Jovi maybe?

Aside from the ones you mentioned

Depeche Mode: 100 million albums/singles
Chicago: over 120 million albums
Hall and Oates: over 60 million
ELO: over 100 million
Journey: 75 million

so elegibility is 25 years after group/band/artist inception or 25 years after breathrough landmark work?

That's probably how it will work for inductees going forward. So the Chili Peppers will most likely get voted in 25 years after Blood Sugar...

Of the acts where I could find numbers, The Cure (27 million as of 1994) and Heart (over 30 million) hit the low end

Between Alice and T-Rex... but Alice it is

... LOL, I didn't notice Public Enemy!!!!!!

Of the names listed here, only 2 have ever been nominated before: Kiss and RHCP. None of the others have ever been nominated. And Public Enemy aren't eligible yet. Of the names listed, I can say for sure that Frampton, Journey, Bad Company and Foreigner have little to no chance of ever getting in.

John Huston, in Chinatown: "'Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough." Bad '70s rock bands, too--he forgot bad '70s rock bands.

RHCP are as establishment (rubber-stamped four star RS reviews of every new album, Gramy AOTY nod) as any band of their generation gets. they may not get in before some of those older bands, but they'll get in.

... LOL, I didn't notice Public Enemy!!!!!!

― The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:00 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

That's what Jann Wenner said.

RHCP are as establishment (rubber-stamped four star RS reviews of every new album, Gramy AOTY nod) as any band of their generation gets. they may not get in before some of those older bands, but they'll get in.

that's true, I guess I keep thinking of them as being the same band I encountered on their first three albums and therefore seeing them listed with "the greats" seems (unfairly) bizarre

By personal taste, I'd vote for Hall & Oates or ELO. By "significance", I guess I'd pick Public Enemy.

I notice that the Beastie Boys didn't make the CNN.com list.

All right, point taken on the sales figures for the other bands on the list. ELO sold 100 million albums? WTF???

I guess I keep thinking of them as being the same band I encountered on their first three albums and therefore seeing them listed with "the greats" seems (unfairly) bizarre

Yeah, me too. Still, I can't deny that: huge sales numbers + being one of the world's most popular rock bands going on 20 years + RS-approved = easy HOF selection

Beastie Boys were nominated in 2007, but not last 2 years.
BTW- I voted for Hall & Oates.

keep thinking of them as being the same band I encountered on their first three albums and therefore seeing them listed with "the greats" seems (unfairly) bizarre

Yeah, me too. I'm all "what're they gonna do, show up for the HoF ceremony with socks on their cocks"? (The "they totally suck" factor works into it too, probably.)

I will ride for the first 3 RHCP albums until the day I die

No KC & the Sunshine Band is a travesty.

Hall & Oates and Public Enemy are my tops, Cheap Trick pretty great, esp. live up through the '90s, Foreigner's "Urgent" makes up for anything else they did, RHCP just uhg despite a few good songs on first couple albums, and the rest mostly off my map except whatever hit radio, though I'm open. Can/should a 40-year-old get into Alice Cooper and Rush this late?

yes to both IMO

in fact, if you are 40+ and aren't into at least one of either Rush or Alice Cooper, I am not sure you can be trusted

Me = untrustworthy.

There's a good thread: What is the musical equivalent of the endlessly recycled and misattributed quote to the effect that anyone who isn't a socialist at 20 has no heart, and anyone who isn't a conservative at 40 has no brain?

Me too. Lee's voice is just too annoying though I loved 'Subdivisions' once upon a time.

in fact, if you are 40+ and aren't into at least one of either Rush or Alice Cooper, I am not sure you can be trusted

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^Amen

Pete

I love Rush to death. I listened to Power Windows last night actually.

But here's the thing, I think being a Rush fan is sort of like homosexuality...some people are just born Rush fans, but it might take you a while to discover that about yourself...but if you wanna give it a shot, try like 2112 and Moving Pictures. Some people just can't like Rush.

WRT Alice Cooper, the original Alice Cooper band albums (especially the run of Easy Action through School's Out) are pretty much the most mindblowing musical discovery I made in the last 5 years.

Those albums contain elements of pretty much every single thing that's great about rock music. Great pop hooks, ratty punk energy, awesome riffs, funny stupidity, grand ambition, art rock set pieces, awesome rhythm section playing, great guitar solos, etc etc.

if you end up listening to like, Killer or Love it to Death and aren't impressed...I'd kinda question if you like rock music.

hahaha

I am Rush-curious

That's the key for me: "once upon a time." Once upon a time, e.g. back in grade 6 in 1973, when Mr. Weedmark brought the School's Out album to music class, Alice Cooper was this really grown-up, scary, endlessly mysterious entity, and "School's Out" itself was a blast. The idea that almost 40 years later, after all the bad music and celebrity foolishness and general Spinal Tap downward spiral, that one moment would be enough to convince me that Alice Cooper belongs in any kind of HOF strikes me as absurd.

I believe you can make that exact same argument for every single act currently in the Hall of Fame.

Possibly, but at a certain level of achievement--Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, etc.--the downward drift doesn't much matter, any more that it matters that Willie Mays or Steve Carlton or Rickey Henderson hung on too long too. But you can't turn Alice Cooper into Willie Mays; at best he's Mike Cuellar, great for two or three years and then nothing. (And let me say pre-emptively that the Velvet Underground's or Sex Pistols' "two or three" years are a whole different matter.)

being a Rush fan is sort of like homosexuality
lol

"And let me say pre-emptively that the Velvet Underground's or Sex Pistols' "two or three" years are a whole different matter."

Bullshit. Why? because that's what you're supposed to think? It sure isnt because they made better music than Alice Cooper.

But here's the thing, I think being a Rush fan is sort of like homosexuality...some people are just born Rush fans, but it might take you a while to discover that about yourself...

OTM. I discovered this abt myself at age 36, everything just felt so right.

Rush, BOC and Current 93 stand as the biggest new enthusiasms of my thirties (though I still have 4 months to go)

No homo.

i'm not crazy into Rush, but you know, a couple drinks, the right situation ... who knows?

Bill Magill: Yes, yes, I always place great importance on what I'm supposed to think...If you count Alice Cooper's body of work as being the equal of the Velvet Underground's or the Sex Pistols', well, have at it. That's kind of a hard argument to enter into.

The idea that almost 40 years later, after all the bad music and celebrity foolishness and general Spinal Tap downward spiral, that one moment would be enough to convince me that Alice Cooper belongs in any kind of HOF strikes me as absurd.

you know what strikes me as being absurd? a hall of fame for rock and roll. i mean. . . it's crazy!

"That's kind of a hard argument to enter into."

How come? Here, I'll win it easily: I think Alice Cooper made better music than the Sex Pistols and the Velvet Underground. Not such a hard argument. Mike Cuellar, my ass.

Good--we've settled that Alice Cooper were superior to the Velvet Underground and the Sex Pistols. Thanks!...I think I half-agree with Mr. Que about the redundancy of the whole enterprise. If you go back to the very first inductees, though, they started off doing a good job--admittedly, it was a lot easier wading through the upper echelon. At some point they lost their way, and now I have no idea what the criteria are.

in fairness, almost everyone made better music than The Sex Pistols, including pretty much everyone they inspired and musical projects taken up by Pistols members after the band broke up