Most shocking Rock & Roll Hall of Fame snubs (according to CNN.com)

So, I guess my question is, are there people anywhere that take it seriously? Besides Wenner?

was answering this question

you know, the question asked in the posts right above my posts?

Public Enemy's first single was such a non-starter and obscurity that I wouldn't be suprised if the Rock Hall was just considering Yo! Bum Rush The Show their recorded debut and are waiting until 2012

so i'm not exactly "shocked"

shocked at kiss not being in tbh. growing up they were little more than some scary dudes on lunchboxes but..they were on a lot of lunchboxes iirc.

most shocked @ kiss & coop, for sure.

i wouldn't be too shocked by kiss and alice cooper not getting in, weren't they the enemy of the whole jann wenner-ben fong torres rs mafia?

They've set the bar so abysmally low, these are the kinds of names that get elevated to the category of "snubs." The one inclusion that clearly belongs--and I'm not even much of a fan--would be Public Enemy. I'm a huge fan of early Cheap Trick, but objectively, forget it. I guess you could make a case for Kiss and/or Alice Cooper...though I wouldn't make it myself. And if it were a British HOF, T. Rex for sure. Everything else on there, laughable.

isn't roxy music not in? they should be in over t-rex, although they both should be

i bet roxy gets in before t-rex cuz of eno

Screamin' Jay Hawkins

The Big Bopper, wtf?

Rush is the correct answer. The fact that they aren't already in the Hall of Fame is a complete travesty.

Have you read the comments on there? Half of them are people saying Chicago should be in the HoF. Are Chicago really popular or have they all just been linked to the article from a Chicago message board?

Dick from California March 15th, 2010 7:15 pm ET

The Hall of Fame should be just that...for those with established FAME. Obscure bands/artists have no place in a Hall of Fame. Bseides, most of these obscure bands got their "brilliant/genius" tag from a single work, and had no lasting impact on the music industry. It would be like putting a football player in because he had one great game. I mean, seriously. I'll admit I'm not a hardcore music afficianado, but when I haven't even heard of a band/artist, how famous can they be? The FAME needs to be put back into the Hall of Fame.

Kevvinn B Jagielka March 15th, 2010 7:20 pm ET

Who are the stooges? Only popular bands that have sold millions of albums should be in it. Hall Of Fame should mean that acts who are FAMOUS and everyone has heard of them. Obscure trendy acts shouldn't be near the Hall Of Fame. The great American Public should decide. The problem is that Rolling Stone still wants to be all counter culture and be trendy. . Chicago should be in there! And Kiss! And Van Halen! Down with trendy liberal magazines like Rolling Stone telling good ole americans what should be in a hall of fame. Make it a public vote!

Did alex write this?

J. March 15th, 2010 7:30 pm ET

They should induct Slayer and force Joni Mitchell to do the induction speech. "Ladies and Gentlemen, the next honor of induction goes to a band that wrote lovelorn ditties that explored the condition of the human heart. Songs such as "Angel Of Death", "Necrophobic", and a song I feel would have felt right at home in my album, Court and Spark...."Mandatory Suicide", have lifted the spirit of a whole generation. "
"Ladies and Gentlemen.....SLAYER.
*terrified silence*

The Moody Blues! Their first single ("Go Now") is from '65, so they've obviously been eligible for years. And they're great!

well, the moody's first single is a classic, no doubt. after that... doddddggggyyyyy.

I luvs 'em. Days of Future Passed... To Our Children's Children's Children... Hilarious poety, too! Even "Your Wildest Dreams" was decent.

i'm voting for them because it's a hall of FAME

This is silly even when ppl arent talkin bout baseball

Chicago should be in there! And Kiss! And Van Halen! Down with trendy liberal magazines like Rolling Stone telling good ole americans what should be in a hall of fame. Make it a public vote!

Do people really think like that?

the city of cleveland

― tylerw, Monday, March 15, 2010 6:32 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

We really don't take it all that seriously tbh except for the tourist $$$. Speaking for the whole city.

ALICE COOPER

They should induct Slayer and force Joni Mitchell to do the induction speech. "Ladies and Gentlemen, the next honor of induction goes to a band that wrote lovelorn ditties that explored the condition of the human heart. Songs such as "Angel Of Death", "Necrophobic", and a song I feel would have felt right at home in my album, Court and Spark...."Mandatory Suicide", have lifted the spirit of a whole generation. "

Seriously: I would send a donation to the HOF if Joni did this.

Do people really think like that?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, March 15, 2010 5:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Yeah, it's funny reading Rolling Stone being referred to as a trendy magazine. When your publisher stopped listening to music back in 1974, I believe you cease being trendy.

Who has say in HOF voting other than Wenner? I thought I remember reading Ahmet Ertegun was a voter too, but ya, probably not anymore.

Dick from California March 15th, 2010 7:15 pm ET

Which Dick from California wrote it?

Yeah, it's funny reading Rolling Stone being referred to as a trendy magazine. When your publisher stopped listening to music back in 1974, I believe you cease being trendy.

I suppose if you stopped listening to music in 1969 you might think Rolling Stone Magazine was trendy

Mick March 15th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

Chicago – horn crap
Hall and Oates – fudge packers
Moody Blues – overrated trash
Peter Frampton-only relevant in Humble Pie
Bon Jovi -blow dryers
Public Enemy- escaped slaves
Delaney and Bonnie and Friends- doobie burnouts
Flying Burrito Brothers – ass gas
Badfinger -lets all commit suicide!
Stephen Stills- huh? wheres my coke spoon?
Harry Nilsson -dead lame depressing slug
Herman's Hermits-Peter Noone-infomercial guru with bad English teeth man.
Bread-the biggest pussies on planet Earth
The Marshal Tucker Band – they're cowboys dumb-ass
Boston- one note wonders
Karen Carpenter-eat a sandwich will ya?
The Cowsills-inbred goobers
ABBA-euro trash in jump suits
Kansas/Journey/Foreigner/Styx/ REO Speedwagon – all the same band right?
Neil Diamond- grandma music
Cat Stevens-terrorist
Gary Glitter -homosexual pedophile (see Michael Jackson)
New York Dolls-one great album cover and nuthin else
Doctor Hook & The Medicine Show-Wenner bought it.
Andy Gibb /Maurice Gibb – 2 down 2 to go.
How come no one has mentioned Rush?
Leon Redbone -Zappas alter-ego without the talent
Joan Jett -slut
Doobie Brothers- pick a genre!
Toto – karaoke rubbish
Three Dog Night-great vocals ,crappy songs
Meatloaf- wishes he picked a cooler name. Fat.
Sammy Hagar -Drive 55 off a freakin cliff lame-o
Jimmy Buffet -hello?? Rock & Roll
Boz Scaggs – once a good bluesman-sold out to the disco scene.
The Guess Who -guess what? They stink. aka Rare Earth-interchangeable crap.
Poco-LameO
Little Feat-less talent
Tori Amos -somebody shoot that guy who wrote that.

^ could be a poll

Out of the list at the top, I'd say the two that should get in first are Alice Cooper and T-Rex for their music and the music they influenced. Kiss makes sense for a Hall of Fame, but Alice pretty much did it first you know. Marc Bolan also didn't get a second shot, as he died as he was just coming around for him to maybe have another shot, but the guy was gold.

suddenly i feel very young.

Voting Alice, since he/they are easily the best one up there, though I can't say I'm "shocked" by him being "snubbed". (Even though he/they invented shock rock. Wait, are we talking about the guy or the band?) I really have no clue as to who's in and who isn't, otherwise. (I like T. Rex fine, but they seem kinda minor to me compared to most of the rest. Plus Cheap Trick, Heart, and Foreigner were all better anyway.)

Chicago should be in there! And Kiss! And Van Halen! Down with trendy liberal magazines like Rolling Stone telling good ole americans what should be in a hall of fame. Make it a public vote!

Do people really think like that?

they do & it is why people should come w/their own SB buttons

went with Heart, just coz they seem to be lost in the trex AC rush battle


Flying Burrito Brothers – ass gas
, etc.

had no clue Humble Pie and non-disco (?) Boz Scaggs fans were so Alex in NYC-esque.

Doobie Brothers- pick a genre!
Toto – karaoke rubbish = ?

Little Feat-less talent

genuine lolz

Heart because a female fronted rock band seems like obvious HOF bait

Mick March 15th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

Chicago – horn crap
Hall and Oates – fudge packers
Moody Blues – overrated trash
Peter Frampton-only relevant in Humble Pie
Bon Jovi -blow dryers
Public Enemy- escaped slaves
Delaney and Bonnie and Friends- doobie burnouts
Flying Burrito Brothers – ass gas
Badfinger -lets all commit suicide!
Stephen Stills- huh? wheres my coke spoon?
Harry Nilsson -dead lame depressing slug
Herman's Hermits-Peter Noone-infomercial guru with bad English teeth man.
Bread-the biggest pussies on planet Earth
The Marshal Tucker Band – they're cowboys dumb-ass
Boston- one note wonders
Karen Carpenter-eat a sandwich will ya?
The Cowsills-inbred goobers
ABBA-euro trash in jump suits
Kansas/Journey/Foreigner/Styx/ REO Speedwagon – all the same band right?
Neil Diamond- grandma music
Cat Stevens-terrorist
Gary Glitter -homosexual pedophile (see Michael Jackson)
New York Dolls-one great album cover and nuthin else
Doctor Hook & The Medicine Show-Wenner bought it.
Andy Gibb /Maurice Gibb – 2 down 2 to go.
How come no one has mentioned Rush?
Leon Redbone -Zappas alter-ego without the talent
Joan Jett -slut
Doobie Brothers- pick a genre!
Toto – karaoke rubbish
Three Dog Night-great vocals ,crappy songs
Meatloaf- wishes he picked a cooler name. Fat.
Sammy Hagar -Drive 55 off a freakin cliff lame-o
Jimmy Buffet -hello?? Rock & Roll
Boz Scaggs – once a good bluesman-sold out to the disco scene.
The Guess Who -guess what? They stink. aka Rare Earth-interchangeable crap.
Poco-LameO
Little Feat-less talent
Tori Amos -somebody shoot that guy who wrote that.

is this the same guy who reviewed everyone at his high school?

i'm voting for them because it's a hall of FAME

This is silly even when ppl arent talkin bout baseball

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Monday, March 15, 2010 8:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's makes a lot more sense than if you try to pretend it's the Rock & Roll Hall of Quality/Greatness/Originality/etc.

It still doesn't make sense because it's basically a monument to a Rolling Stone-style canon. I'd certainly say "quality/greatness/originality/etc." is very much the criteria, at least by the committee's standards.

ALICE.

the CURE

they were pretty original
they have more than enough great music
I've heard tons trying to sound like Robert Smith over the last 10 years.

Public Enemy :)

(Although seriously, they belong there, because of their historical importance for the development of popular music, as R&RHOF is not supposed to be rock'n'roll only)

But now understanding the question properly, I understand I should have voted Depeche Mode instead. They have the time ahead of them, though, and I am pretty certain they will get in.

Wow, if even Geir's voting PE, surely they will run away with this?

Personally, the only other one I'd go vote for would be TRex, but they didn't happen at all in the US apart from "Get It On (Bang a Gong)" right?

"20th Century Boy" was briefly ubiquitous in the US a few years ago thanks to its use in a Mitsubishi commercial that played on tv every ten minutes.

Are PE even eligible yet? As of 25 years ago, they'd only released one obscure single under a different name.

What, Gay Dad?

Jedward

(serious answer: Spectrum City)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P19CZn6Cswk&feature=player_embedded#

I find it strange that 20 people would vote PE when it was already established that they're not eligible yet, so it's the least shocking exclusion by default.

Maybe they thought it read "Most Shocklee" exclusion.

who knew Chicago were so popular round here

Bon Jovi 6
KISS 6

Wait til Alex In NYC sees that.

xpost - popularity 'round here is a non-issue! I can take or leave Chicago, but I'm surprised that 120 million records sold wasn't enough to get 'em inducted. And presumably the other four voters felt the same.

I didnt vote for them, but I kind of like early Chicago.

i have only the faintest idea of what Chicago even sound like ... are the early records secretly good?

The early records are a lot more interesting than their 80s ballads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soLIZ4W0rZw&feature=related

the 80s ballads are all I know. or rather, one 80s ballad -- "look away, baaaaaby, look away!" love that. that is Chicago, isn't it?

I remember them having a hit of some sorts with a ballad here in the UK in the early 80s because they had a song on Hits 3 or 4 or something. I cant remember what song it was. But I'd be surprised if they sold many records here.

This was their big comeback single (lolling so hard at Rutger Hauer Peter Cetera here, plz let Alex in NYC see this)

actually everything about this video is hilarious and pretty much encapsulates the 80s

Dubious distinction of Chicago being the first band I ever saw live. St Paul Civic Center 1983. I didn't even like them then-- think i was just excited about the idea of seeing a big rock show.

A comedian was the opener (what a grand tradition that was...)

ahh dan, i think that's the song i was trying to remember the name of! Prob their only song that gets played on oldies radio here. Usually played before or after you win again by the bee gees.

oh lol I had the chronology all backwards, this was actually the comeback single:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9cNYlmXEY

Don't know that one at all. I expect it may have been a minor hit here and missed my 9 year old ears

UK #4 in 1982 according to Wikipedia

i was too busy listening to madness

speaking of minor hits, lol I had forgotten this song existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZ4w_OyZx4

P. Cetera lost a certain edge to his voice once he finally had that bowel movement...

This was their big comeback single (lolling so hard at Rutger Hauer Peter Cetera here, plz let Alex in NYC see this)

Yes, the Bauhaus t-shirt has been well documented and outraged over already.

aw

I find it strange that 20 people would vote PE when it was already established that they're not eligible yet, so it's the least shocking exclusion by default.

Maybe they thought it read "Most Shocklee" exclusion.

― President Keyes, Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:22 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actual lols

Mea culpa. Halfway through the school year, I started playing music over the P.A. system during morning entry. Our staff has a typical age range of late-20s through to early-50s (I'm close to one end of that spectrum), so I'd mix things up, from the new Cypress Hill single to the Spice Girls to Andy Williams' "Can't Get Used to Losing You." (Loud guitars generally no, although I did play "Good Times Bad Times" one morning.) Anyway, yesterday I got to satisfy a lifelong dream: as the kids filed in, "School's Out" blared. So I'm here to say that Alice Cooper needs to go into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame immediately.

haha! what was the reaction from the kids?

Oddly enough, all 500 of them started chanting "Hall-of-Fame! Hall-of-Fame!" in unison...I spotted at least a couple who obviously knew the song already, which was nice.

http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2014/08/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_to_2.html

Get him out of there. You need the room for the Police and Rush and Britney Spears.

the rock and roll hall of fame

Pathetically pleased that all four of my inductions predicted upthread came to pass. (I also correctly predicted the top six Oscars in both '83 and '84)

lol alan freed

like he is definitely a huge part of the rock n roll hall of fame for anyone who cares more than an iota about the rock n roll hall of fame. but that group of people really isn't that big. and i say that as someone who cares more than iota!

I've always had a soft spot for Freed, based on American Hot Wax and on a couple of LPs I bought years ago, where he provides intros to a bunch of great doo-wop songs. (They were put out by Roulette, I think towards the end when he was having a hard time.)

http://www.shugarecords.com/images/products/thumb/1b4ce305-51bd-432f-9538-e57b314dbf17-0.jpg

He strikes me a really heroic figure, brought down by the IRS, but really because he played black artists at a time when no one would. I should read a biography, though--I'm sure the story isn't quite that simple.