Which Vaccuous Pop Irritant's "Influences" list is this?

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fairly unusual by what standards? if we were talking about some established star who's been big since before MySpace/Pitchfork/etc. I might be mildly surprised, but I can't think of any pop star under 25 who I'd actually raise an eyebrow at for something like this. (xpost)

― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess I'm specifically thinking about Ke$ha here, only insofar as what I know of her image seems to be very deliberately created and the notion that she would make a point of telling the world she digs, like, the Vaselines and Optiganally Yours seems to be at odds with it? I'm not AiNYC-ing here, just saying

Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, you're being reasonable so i'm not trying to be a dick, but think about your choice of words here. punk bands don't have deliberately created images?

some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Vaccuous Pop Irritant

Best band name that hasn't been used yet.

The fabric of ILX is woven from threads of hate (KMS), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Once the spelling of vacuous has been corrected of course.

The fabric of ILX is woven from threads of hate (KMS), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp well of course they do, it's just that for better or worse the punk 'scene' more explicitly prizes music nerdery... that was the only reason I was mildly surprised but tbh this is mostly based on my hazy perception of a pop singer whom I'm only passingly familiar with so I'm gonna duck out

Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

there are good bands in that list but it's still pretty unremarkable imo

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i must say the inclusion of Eric's Trip is pretty weird

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Chuck linked this upthread but the permalink does somethink weird where it disappears the article and leaves just the comments, so:

http://aceterrier.tumblr.com/page/2, & scroll to the bottom, to the second to last post (which is very long). It talks about DJ Mencap's comment about Ke$ha's created image (and other stuff), and it's really good.

bamcquern, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

This kind of looks like two different people's lists mashed together: the one with capitalized names is more pop-friendly and not nearly as completist or esoteric as the one following in lower case. It looks like they didn't even bother to remove the duplicate entries from the two lists. The lower-case list does look like the kind of thing someone might attach to their own list in order to ward off indie-blogger disdain. But this is all speculation - maybe the same person did write both lists.

o. nate OTM here actually
xposts M@tt OTM too!

Sundar, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i'm astonished that anyone (VPI or not) would list The Dead Milkmen as an 'influence'. reads more like punk bro's old CD collection

Plop! (herb albert), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i think she made the capitalized list first, then decided later to just add every band name from her iTunes in alphabetical order or something

some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

or more like marketing guy tasked with creating her myspace page thought 'fuck it, I'm listing what's on my IPod'

Plop! (herb albert), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

It's just music she likes; don't be so cynical.

bamcquern, Monday, 15 March 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

no, I think the problem is that we aren't being cynical ENOUGH

I, for one, am not convinced she actually exists.

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Did anybody watch that episode of The Simple Life that she was on?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i think its p. important we find out exactly how authentic ke$has taste in music is

max, Monday, 15 March 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm just gonna assume this is Taylor Swift

Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahaha

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

hang on wait i missed Cornelius the first time round

whoa

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

it's worth remembering that kids these days have plain terrifying access to music, that list reads like a succession of clickthroughs on youtube

Popper, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

ok totally take that back. this album has Dead Milkmen all over it. "Party at a Rich Dude's House" could be Taking Retards 2010.
see, I forgot because I'm a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-CB-6CUo7M

Plop! (herb albert), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Party at a Rich Dude's House" could be Taking Retards 2010.

Or even Bad Party 2010!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

"Party at a Rich Dude's House"

Or elsewhere, if we're talking old Alex heroes:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-03/52749678.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Personally, I more offended by the fact that it's Eric Singer wearing Peter Criss' make-up in the pic above than I am by Gene Simmons pressing the flesh with a stockbroker. Gene Simmons being an avaricious jackass is not breaking news.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

peter criss is such a horseshit drummer

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the notion of a "Horseshit Drummer" .... a messy assignment.

Regardless, the ruse is still unfortunate.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah but i think the point is that kiss is just as much of a vacuous pop irritant as she is

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Uhhh, no. Vacuous? Maybe, but I wouldn't call Kiss a "pop irritant." Rock irritant? Perhaps, but I'm fine with that.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 15 March 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

h8 ke$ha so much, all these bands r dead 2 me

ice cr?m, Monday, 15 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

what a disaster for MIA, Beck, Rolling Stones, Devo, Flock of Seagulls, kraftwork, Daniel Johnson, talking Heads, David Bowie, Donovan, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Janet and Sir Michael Jackson, Avenue A, The Go! Team, Mika, Sonic Youth, Elton John, Willlie Nelson, Gwen Stefani, Madonna, Beastie Boys, Eagles of Death Metal, Black Keys, Black Eyed Peas, Daft Punk, Electric 6, Teenager, Tonite Only, Prince,Mirwais, Afrika Bambaata, Peaches, Rock&Roll, Richard X, Cornelius, ESG,6ths, ackron family, al green, andrew bird, anthrax, aphex twin, aphid ant constructions, arcade fire, archers of loaf, ataxia, badfinger, the bang up, beck, belle &; sebastian, ben lee, beulah, big star, black flag, the blow, boards of canada, bob dylan, brian eno, brian wilson, bright eyes, built to spill, butthole surfers, the cardigans, the carpenters, casiotone for the painfully alone, the clash, the clutters, daft punk, the damned, the dandy warhols, david bowie, the dead milkmen, devandra banhart, donovan, dresden dolls, the eels, elvis costello, eric's trip, the fall, the features, fischerspooner, frank black, frank sinatra, franz ferdinand, futurheads, gary glitter, generation x, ghostface killah, gogol bordello, gorillaz, guided by voices, her space holiday, how i became the bomb, human television, iggy pop, islands, jackson 5, jawbreaker, jenny lewis, jim o'rourke, joan jett, joe jack talcum, john frusciante, johnny thunders, the killers, kimya dawson, the kinks, kraftwerk, LCD soundsystem, le tigre, the lemonheads, leonard cohen, little ones, lou barlow, love, the lovely feathers, marshal crenshaw, matisyahu, matmos, miles davis, minor threat, modest mouse, mos def, mott the hoople, the mountain goats, moving units, my darling YOU!, neil diamond, neil young, neko case, neutral milk hotel, neva dinova, nico, of montreal, oh no! oh my!, optiganally yours, ornamental wigwam, otis redding, the pastels, peaches, pere ubu, peter bjorn and john, pink spiders, pixies, pj harvey, postal service, public enemy, pulp, queen, r.e.m., r.l. burnside, radiohead, the raincoats, rancid, the rapture, the rascals, ratatat, the ravonettes, regina spektor, replacements, roky erickson, rolling stones, ryan adams, screeching weasel, the shins, the small faces, the smiths, smoking popes, sparklehorse, spinto band, squarepusher, stellastarr*, stiff little fingers, the stranglers, the streets, the streets, the strokes, surfjan stevens, the sundays, sun ra, t rex, ted leo and the pharmacists, television, tilly and the wall, they might be giants, tom jones, tracy + the plastics, troubled hubble, tv on the radio, U2, the unicorns, the vaselines, the velvet underground, the ventures, verde, violent femmes, the walkmen, wilco, wire, X, yeah yeah yeahs, yo la tengo, the zebras, the zombies

goole, Monday, 15 March 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

its $ad i know

ice cr?m, Monday, 15 March 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

In an era when you can hear so much music without putting any effort into it at all, it isn't even remotely surprising that a 20-something year old girl who happens to be a pop star would be into any of that.

Alex is just getting pissy because the clubhouse isn't cool any more.

Maraca Son Sistema (Matt DC), Monday, 15 March 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

ice cr?m, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

she probably like lanquidity

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 15 March 2010 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

likes

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 15 March 2010 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

― ice cr?m, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:04 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lets be real no one actually likes sun ra

max, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i heard she likes art en$emble of chicago

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

See, someone gets it.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i think she spun some tony william$ lifetime at lindsay lohan's b-day bash

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

― ice cr?m, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:04 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lets be real no one actually likes sun ra

― max, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:16 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u toke weed, u tell me

ice cr?m, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i never smoked in my life

max, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

ice cr$m

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 15 March 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

it's worth remembering that kids these days have plain terrifying access to music, that list reads like a succession of clickthroughs on youtube

Are you honestly suggesting that teenagers are out there rampantly downloading songs by Badfinger, Jim O'Rourke and Andrew Bird? Are you going there?

Alex in NYC, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

andrew bird is pretty popular

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Why didn't she include Todd Rundgren...I hate whoever it is...

sonnyboy, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

If you want it
Here it is
Click and get it

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I do believe that teenagers are probably out there downloading Jim Orourke and Badfinger but regardless, she's not a teenager! She's twenty-three!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I do think it's true that a list of favorites means something different to younger people than it does to older people -- sometimes the items refer less to in-depth long-term fandom and more to just liking something from/about an act. I mean, older people will do this with pop music, where saying "I love Stacey Q" might just mean you love "Two of Hearts" -- if you're young and on the internet a lot of stuff can work that way! An internet like a giant radio where you can love an act for whatever part of them you come across.

Plus I don't even want to get into anything about whether she can "actually" like stuff like this, but I'm not even sure there's that radical of a disjunction between most of those tastes and singing this variety of pop song! I mean, this tends to be abundantly clear to us the other way around: you'd never be surprised that Jim O'Rourke might like HER, would you? Or that I like loads of things on that list but would be reasonably impressed with myself to have made some of her music?

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not surprised by her list, i'm surprised people actually listen to this hideous music she makes.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

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I remember when I first heard this song, I remember thinking, "What the F*** HAPPENED TO GOOD MUSIC!!!!!!" sHE SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY DRUNK WOMAN AND SHOULDN'T EVEN BE NEAR A RECORDING STUDIO!!!!!! I'm a big music fan, I know exactly what I'm talking about!! Ke$ha is a disgrace to music!!!! [/b]Ke$ha's like a giant pile of crap on Mozart's face!!![/b]

An ilx username in the making?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link


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