That anti-Shania rant above contains some literal lolz.
For the record, I'm subhuman. (Does Alex in NYC like The Subhumans?)
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
She might like all that stuff. Equally, whichever music writer is employed to maintain her MySpace might like all that stuff.
― ithappens, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Some of that stuff may even have influenced her music, believe it or not (and not just the indie-style track she ends her album with.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
wikipedia says her mom is a singer / songwriter, so it may come from that.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i hope that doesn't give it away either
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Other parts of the page are misspelled enough that I doubt they were made by the same author who included "Optiganally Yours" in the list.
Once again, I like her music and don't mean this as a diss. I think it's entirely possible, even likely, that she could have a fulfilling music collection.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://popdirt.com/kesha-comes-home-to-nashville/77729/
Vevo’s ‘Area Codes’ features Kesha “Ke$ha” Sebert in Nashville (615). The 22-year-old talks about life in a tour bus, having weird influences because her mom wrote country music and her brother listened to punk rock, having a “redneck dumpster diving chic” fashion sense, and fulfilling a fantasy by debuting her video at a tranny bar in Nashville.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
"Kinda think you're overestimating how important 'appealing to the indie audience' is here, tbh"
that's possibly true. maybe "appealing to another audience" is a better way to put it. but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...
― zingzing, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
do people still think that any white high school/college-age American being into indie/alternative rock is in any way remarkable or interesting or in need of some kind of explanation of backstory?
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...
She got popularity outside of pop circles because she's Swedish and not actually played on the radio (in the U.S., at least).
― jam master (jaymc), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Also found sources on Nexis indicating her mom was a punk before turning country-songwriter.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Her older brother writes for HuffPo.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Not that that's punk.
― some dude, Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This is the post I would have liked to make, which sort of sums up how I feel about the issue, although maybe substitute "suburban" for "white."
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
jam master, it does seem like indie kids like pop if it's swedish... that is quite true. but i'd still maintain that she probably didn't write the list as it appears on her myspace.
― zingzing, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah you're right that class/geography probably have way more to do w/ it than race these days (xpost)
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Obviously ymmv as far as 'interesting' goes but I think it is fairly unusual for a largeish pop star to do that dorky namecheck-ridiculously-overlong-amount-of-bands-on-yer-Myspace thing
xxp
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
This kind of looks like two different people's lists mashed together: the one with capitalized names is more pop-friendly and not nearly as completist or esoteric as the one following in lower case. It looks like they didn't even bother to remove the duplicate entries from the two lists. The lower-case list does look like the kind of thing someone might attach to their own list in order to ward off indie-blogger disdain. But this is all speculation - maybe the same person did write both lists.
― o. nate, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
fairly unusual by what standards? if we were talking about some established star who's been big since before MySpace/Pitchfork/etc. I might be mildly surprised, but I can't think of any pop star under 25 who I'd actually raise an eyebrow at for something like this. (xpost)
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
xp A few of Ke$ha's songs were recorded in Stockholm, fwiw (not that indie kids would identify her as Swedish because of it, of course.)
Get the idea that her Mom has been instrumental in helping her come up with her image and concept, too. (Not sure if she co-writes or not.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
how dare she
― hacksaw jim suggban (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought this was gonna be some UK "wonky pop" bullshit
― hacksaw jim suggban (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
AiNYC had the flair for funny foofy turns of phrase way before loujag
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
She co-wrote three songs on Animal, per AMG.
― jam master (jaymc), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
It's funny how many 0.5 star votes she's got on Rateyourmusic. I guess if she pisses off the demographic of that site that much she must be doing something right. I wish there was some way to search for albums with the most 0.5 star votes.
― o. nate, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I guess I'm specifically thinking about Ke$ha here, only insofar as what I know of her image seems to be very deliberately created and the notion that she would make a point of telling the world she digs, like, the Vaselines and Optiganally Yours seems to be at odds with it? I'm not AiNYC-ing here, just saying
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
ok, you're being reasonable so i'm not trying to be a dick, but think about your choice of words here. punk bands don't have deliberately created images?
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Vaccuous Pop Irritant
Best band name that hasn't been used yet.
― The fabric of ILX is woven from threads of hate (KMS), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Once the spelling of vacuous has been corrected of course.
― The fabric of ILX is woven from threads of hate (KMS), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp well of course they do, it's just that for better or worse the punk 'scene' more explicitly prizes music nerdery... that was the only reason I was mildly surprised but tbh this is mostly based on my hazy perception of a pop singer whom I'm only passingly familiar with so I'm gonna duck out
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
there are good bands in that list but it's still pretty unremarkable imo
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i must say the inclusion of Eric's Trip is pretty weird
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Chuck linked this upthread but the permalink does somethink weird where it disappears the article and leaves just the comments, so:
http://aceterrier.tumblr.com/page/2, & scroll to the bottom, to the second to last post (which is very long). It talks about DJ Mencap's comment about Ke$ha's created image (and other stuff), and it's really good.
― bamcquern, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
o. nate OTM here actuallyxposts M@tt OTM too!
― Sundar, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i'm astonished that anyone (VPI or not) would list The Dead Milkmen as an 'influence'. reads more like punk bro's old CD collection
― Plop! (herb albert), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i think she made the capitalized list first, then decided later to just add every band name from her iTunes in alphabetical order or something
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
or more like marketing guy tasked with creating her myspace page thought 'fuck it, I'm listing what's on my IPod'
― Plop! (herb albert), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link
It's just music she likes; don't be so cynical.
― bamcquern, Monday, 15 March 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
no, I think the problem is that we aren't being cynical ENOUGH
I, for one, am not convinced she actually exists.
― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Did anybody watch that episode of The Simple Life that she was on?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i think its p. important we find out exactly how authentic ke$has taste in music is
― max, Monday, 15 March 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm just gonna assume this is Taylor Swift
― Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahahaha
― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
hang on wait i missed Cornelius the first time round
whoa
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's worth remembering that kids these days have plain terrifying access to music, that list reads like a succession of clickthroughs on youtube
― Popper, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
ok totally take that back. this album has Dead Milkmen all over it. "Party at a Rich Dude's House" could be Taking Retards 2010.see, I forgot because I'm a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-CB-6CUo7M
― Plop! (herb albert), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Party at a Rich Dude's House" could be Taking Retards 2010.
Or even Bad Party 2010!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
"Party at a Rich Dude's House"
Or elsewhere, if we're talking old Alex heroes:
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-03/52749678.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Personally, I more offended by the fact that it's Eric Singer wearing Peter Criss' make-up in the pic above than I am by Gene Simmons pressing the flesh with a stockbroker. Gene Simmons being an avaricious jackass is not breaking news.
― Alex in NYC, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
peter criss is such a horseshit drummer
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean if you can't peep the joie de vivre of some spikey haired bros from the east bay who have nothing but a song in their hearts, well, i just don't know
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 September 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Doesn't look like there's much rhyme or reason to what I crossed out, in retrospect.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― markers, Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
\o_O/
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
crossing out rock & roll is such a lame challop
― harbl essences (crüt), Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
lol just noticed she spelled it SURFJAN STEVENS like he's a surfer or something
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link