Which Vaccuous Pop Irritant's "Influences" list is this?

Sounds Like god having an orgasm

hope that doesn't give it away!

xp...definitely wore shirts....

last year Miley Cyrus made a big deal of wanting to meet Radiohead at the Grammys, and a few months later said that she's never heard a Jay-Z song and doesn't listen to pop music. I think general cynicism about pop music is so widespread that even the people that make it, especially the young singers, are just kind of dismissive of what they do and try to make sure everyone knows they like much cooler music than the stuff they get rich off of.

and I guess ostensibly having a bunch of pop stars with cool underground influences would make pop more interesting, but instead I think them being so divorced from what they do, taking songs they don't like from producers/songwriters and just kind of going through the motions with them (and maybe later doing a 'difficult' record once their career's already on the wane), is just a huge drag.

That anti-Shania rant above contains some literal lolz.

For the record, I'm subhuman. (Does Alex in NYC like The Subhumans?)

She might like all that stuff. Equally, whichever music writer is employed to maintain her MySpace might like all that stuff.

Some of that stuff may even have influenced her music, believe it or not (and not just the indie-style track she ends her album with.)

wikipedia says her mom is a singer / songwriter, so it may come from that.

i hope that doesn't give it away either

Other parts of the page are misspelled enough that I doubt they were made by the same author who included "Optiganally Yours" in the list.

Once again, I like her music and don't mean this as a diss. I think it's entirely possible, even likely, that she could have a fulfilling music collection.

http://popdirt.com/kesha-comes-home-to-nashville/77729/

Vevo’s ‘Area Codes’ features Kesha “Ke$ha” Sebert in Nashville (615). The 22-year-old talks about life in a tour bus, having weird influences because her mom wrote country music and her brother listened to punk rock, having a “redneck dumpster diving chic” fashion sense, and fulfilling a fantasy by debuting her video at a tranny bar in Nashville.

"Kinda think you're overestimating how important 'appealing to the indie audience' is here, tbh"

that's possibly true. maybe "appealing to another audience" is a better way to put it. but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...

do people still think that any white high school/college-age American being into indie/alternative rock is in any way remarkable or interesting or in need of some kind of explanation of backstory?

but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...

She got popularity outside of pop circles because she's Swedish and not actually played on the radio (in the U.S., at least).

Also found sources on Nexis indicating her mom was a punk before turning country-songwriter.

Her older brother writes for HuffPo.

Not that that's punk.

do people still think that any white high school/college-age American being into indie/alternative rock is in any way remarkable or interesting or in need of some kind of explanation of backstory?

― some dude, Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is the post I would have liked to make, which sort of sums up how I feel about the issue, although maybe substitute "suburban" for "white."

jam master, it does seem like indie kids like pop if it's swedish... that is quite true. but i'd still maintain that she probably didn't write the list as it appears on her myspace.

yeah you're right that class/geography probably have way more to do w/ it than race these days (xpost)

Obviously ymmv as far as 'interesting' goes but I think it is fairly unusual for a largeish pop star to do that dorky namecheck-ridiculously-overlong-amount-of-bands-on-yer-Myspace thing

xxp

This kind of looks like two different people's lists mashed together: the one with capitalized names is more pop-friendly and not nearly as completist or esoteric as the one following in lower case. It looks like they didn't even bother to remove the duplicate entries from the two lists. The lower-case list does look like the kind of thing someone might attach to their own list in order to ward off indie-blogger disdain. But this is all speculation - maybe the same person did write both lists.

fairly unusual by what standards? if we were talking about some established star who's been big since before MySpace/Pitchfork/etc. I might be mildly surprised, but I can't think of any pop star under 25 who I'd actually raise an eyebrow at for something like this. (xpost)

xp A few of Ke$ha's songs were recorded in Stockholm, fwiw (not that indie kids would identify her as Swedish because of it, of course.)

Get the idea that her Mom has been instrumental in helping her come up with her image and concept, too. (Not sure if she co-writes or not.)

how dare she

i thought this was gonna be some UK "wonky pop" bullshit

AiNYC had the flair for funny foofy turns of phrase way before loujag

Get the idea that her Mom has been instrumental in helping her come up with her image and concept, too. (Not sure if she co-writes or not.)

She co-wrote three songs on Animal, per AMG.

It's funny how many 0.5 star votes she's got on Rateyourmusic. I guess if she pisses off the demographic of that site that much she must be doing something right. I wish there was some way to search for albums with the most 0.5 star votes.

fairly unusual by what standards? if we were talking about some established star who's been big since before MySpace/Pitchfork/etc. I might be mildly surprised, but I can't think of any pop star under 25 who I'd actually raise an eyebrow at for something like this. (xpost)

― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess I'm specifically thinking about Ke$ha here, only insofar as what I know of her image seems to be very deliberately created and the notion that she would make a point of telling the world she digs, like, the Vaselines and Optiganally Yours seems to be at odds with it? I'm not AiNYC-ing here, just saying

ok, you're being reasonable so i'm not trying to be a dick, but think about your choice of words here. punk bands don't have deliberately created images?

Vaccuous Pop Irritant

Best band name that hasn't been used yet.

Once the spelling of vacuous has been corrected of course.

xxp well of course they do, it's just that for better or worse the punk 'scene' more explicitly prizes music nerdery... that was the only reason I was mildly surprised but tbh this is mostly based on my hazy perception of a pop singer whom I'm only passingly familiar with so I'm gonna duck out

there are good bands in that list but it's still pretty unremarkable imo

i must say the inclusion of Eric's Trip is pretty weird

Chuck linked this upthread but the permalink does somethink weird where it disappears the article and leaves just the comments, so:

http://aceterrier.tumblr.com/page/2, & scroll to the bottom, to the second to last post (which is very long). It talks about DJ Mencap's comment about Ke$ha's created image (and other stuff), and it's really good.

This kind of looks like two different people's lists mashed together: the one with capitalized names is more pop-friendly and not nearly as completist or esoteric as the one following in lower case. It looks like they didn't even bother to remove the duplicate entries from the two lists. The lower-case list does look like the kind of thing someone might attach to their own list in order to ward off indie-blogger disdain. But this is all speculation - maybe the same person did write both lists.

o. nate OTM here actually
xposts M@tt OTM too!

yeah, i'm astonished that anyone (VPI or not) would list The Dead Milkmen as an 'influence'. reads more like punk bro's old CD collection

i think she made the capitalized list first, then decided later to just add every band name from her iTunes in alphabetical order or something

or more like marketing guy tasked with creating her myspace page thought 'fuck it, I'm listing what's on my IPod'

It's just music she likes; don't be so cynical.

no, I think the problem is that we aren't being cynical ENOUGH

I, for one, am not convinced she actually exists.

Did anybody watch that episode of The Simple Life that she was on?

i think its p. important we find out exactly how authentic ke$has taste in music is

I'm just gonna assume this is Taylor Swift

hahahahaha

hang on wait i missed Cornelius the first time round

whoa

it's worth remembering that kids these days have plain terrifying access to music, that list reads like a succession of clickthroughs on youtube

crossing out bob dylan, leaving in mia/the yeah yeah yeahs/_____

that badfinger cross out means war

Bracket polls for Ke$ha's influences, please. Including double entries.

That definitely does not need to be a poll

This young people trying to be tough thing is a major turn off...even lady gaga is doing it.

i mean if you can't peep the joie de vivre of some spikey haired bros from the east bay who have nothing but a song in their hearts, well, i just don't know

Doesn't look like there's much rhyme or reason to what I crossed out, in retrospect.

lol

\o_O/

crossing out rock & roll is such a lame challop

lol just noticed she spelled it SURFJAN STEVENS like he's a surfer or something