I googled the artist based on the list, never heard of her either.
― Tuomas, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
SIMON: I'm told you had just about the perfect SAT scores.
Ms. SEBERT: It was close - 1500. I was, like, very studious. I was actually in the international baccalaureate program, in AP, I, like, loved physics and math and I was in the marching band. And then after that practice I would drive to Belmont - it's a college in Nashville - and just for fun listen in on Cold War history classes. Just 'cause I just think it's so interesting.
And I was so curious kind of about all that I ended up taking my first solo trip to Cuba. So point being: I was very studious and really curious about a lot of things that are much deeper than, you know, partying and dancing.
― jam master (jaymc), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Also I suspect when lady pop stars wear t-shirts w/ logos of bands they probably don't care for, it's less an attempt at edginess than just because they have logos that look good
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Interestingly, not many of these apparent influences make the list:
One of the benefits of the half-talk-half-rap delivery she uses for many of her verses is that it’s infinitely plastic; she can adopt any tone, apply any level of sarcasm or referentiality. At various times throughout the album I thought I heard Kim Gordon, Moon Unit Zappa, Johnnette Napolitano, Debora Iyall (Romeo Void), Deborah Evans-Stickland (Flying Lizards), Kathleen Hanna, and Laurie Anderson. Which if you’re trying to make a list of feminist forebears is about as good as you can hope for, and I hope I’m not just hallucinating the similarities. (Definitely not with Laurie Anderson.)
http://aceterrier.tumblr.com/post/439283435/we-are-in-the-second-week-of-the-third-month-of
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
P.S. Mandy Moore likes Jandek.
― Fetchboy, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
At various times throughout the album I thought I heard Kim Gordon, Moon Unit Zappa, Johnnette Napolitano, Debora Iyall (Romeo Void), Deborah Evans-Stickland (Flying Lizards), Kathleen Hanna, and Laurie Anderson.
I always hear L'Trimm.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
(Guessed it in one too.)
xposts
― Sundar, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I was going to say -- suprised L'Trimm, Salt N Pepa, or Daphne and Celeste didn't make the list. (And it would be cool if she had Brownsville Station, the Dictators, and the Tubes up there; maybe she'll add them later.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
How many people in their early 20s are realistically gonna know L'Trimm at this point, rilly? Even when they sound a bit like them. I mean I love L'Trimm but
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Who is AceTerrier, btw? I've seen his/her blog posted all over the place lately.
― jam master (jaymc), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Um just in case anyone gives a rat's ass, it's Ke$ha. And the Queen, Beach Boys, heart, etc. one NickB posted above is Katy Perry (my first guess).
Can we have a counterthread where one of Alex's favorites wears a 3OH!3 shirt and lists nothing but Hilary Duff and Hilary Duff remixes as influences?
xhuxk, didn't you write that Stacey Q wore Motorhead t-shirts? Not sure if that fits or if it was a joke to begin with but...
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Was it Motorhead, or was it Sex Pistols? But either way, she definitely worse shirts. (Sometimes, anyway -- in at least one photo published in I think Toronto's Eye Weekly in the '90s, she wore body paint instead.)
xp I'm told Ace Terrier is one Jonathan Bogart (who I'm pretty sure I'd never knowingly read a word by until last week.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Sounds Like god having an orgasm
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
hope that doesn't give it away!
xp...definitely wore shirts....
last year Miley Cyrus made a big deal of wanting to meet Radiohead at the Grammys, and a few months later said that she's never heard a Jay-Z song and doesn't listen to pop music. I think general cynicism about pop music is so widespread that even the people that make it, especially the young singers, are just kind of dismissive of what they do and try to make sure everyone knows they like much cooler music than the stuff they get rich off of.
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
and I guess ostensibly having a bunch of pop stars with cool underground influences would make pop more interesting, but instead I think them being so divorced from what they do, taking songs they don't like from producers/songwriters and just kind of going through the motions with them (and maybe later doing a 'difficult' record once their career's already on the wane), is just a huge drag.
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
That anti-Shania rant above contains some literal lolz.
For the record, I'm subhuman. (Does Alex in NYC like The Subhumans?)
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
She might like all that stuff. Equally, whichever music writer is employed to maintain her MySpace might like all that stuff.
― ithappens, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Some of that stuff may even have influenced her music, believe it or not (and not just the indie-style track she ends her album with.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
wikipedia says her mom is a singer / songwriter, so it may come from that.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i hope that doesn't give it away either
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Other parts of the page are misspelled enough that I doubt they were made by the same author who included "Optiganally Yours" in the list.
Once again, I like her music and don't mean this as a diss. I think it's entirely possible, even likely, that she could have a fulfilling music collection.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://popdirt.com/kesha-comes-home-to-nashville/77729/
Vevo’s ‘Area Codes’ features Kesha “Ke$ha” Sebert in Nashville (615). The 22-year-old talks about life in a tour bus, having weird influences because her mom wrote country music and her brother listened to punk rock, having a “redneck dumpster diving chic” fashion sense, and fulfilling a fantasy by debuting her video at a tranny bar in Nashville.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
"Kinda think you're overestimating how important 'appealing to the indie audience' is here, tbh"
that's possibly true. maybe "appealing to another audience" is a better way to put it. but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...
― zingzing, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
do people still think that any white high school/college-age American being into indie/alternative rock is in any way remarkable or interesting or in need of some kind of explanation of backstory?
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...
She got popularity outside of pop circles because she's Swedish and not actually played on the radio (in the U.S., at least).
― jam master (jaymc), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Also found sources on Nexis indicating her mom was a punk before turning country-songwriter.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Her older brother writes for HuffPo.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Not that that's punk.
― some dude, Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This is the post I would have liked to make, which sort of sums up how I feel about the issue, although maybe substitute "suburban" for "white."
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
jam master, it does seem like indie kids like pop if it's swedish... that is quite true. but i'd still maintain that she probably didn't write the list as it appears on her myspace.
― zingzing, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah you're right that class/geography probably have way more to do w/ it than race these days (xpost)
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Obviously ymmv as far as 'interesting' goes but I think it is fairly unusual for a largeish pop star to do that dorky namecheck-ridiculously-overlong-amount-of-bands-on-yer-Myspace thing
xxp
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
This kind of looks like two different people's lists mashed together: the one with capitalized names is more pop-friendly and not nearly as completist or esoteric as the one following in lower case. It looks like they didn't even bother to remove the duplicate entries from the two lists. The lower-case list does look like the kind of thing someone might attach to their own list in order to ward off indie-blogger disdain. But this is all speculation - maybe the same person did write both lists.
― o. nate, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
fairly unusual by what standards? if we were talking about some established star who's been big since before MySpace/Pitchfork/etc. I might be mildly surprised, but I can't think of any pop star under 25 who I'd actually raise an eyebrow at for something like this. (xpost)
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
xp A few of Ke$ha's songs were recorded in Stockholm, fwiw (not that indie kids would identify her as Swedish because of it, of course.)
Get the idea that her Mom has been instrumental in helping her come up with her image and concept, too. (Not sure if she co-writes or not.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
how dare she
― hacksaw jim suggban (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought this was gonna be some UK "wonky pop" bullshit
― hacksaw jim suggban (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
AiNYC had the flair for funny foofy turns of phrase way before loujag
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
She co-wrote three songs on Animal, per AMG.
― jam master (jaymc), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
It's funny how many 0.5 star votes she's got on Rateyourmusic. I guess if she pisses off the demographic of that site that much she must be doing something right. I wish there was some way to search for albums with the most 0.5 star votes.
― o. nate, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I guess I'm specifically thinking about Ke$ha here, only insofar as what I know of her image seems to be very deliberately created and the notion that she would make a point of telling the world she digs, like, the Vaselines and Optiganally Yours seems to be at odds with it? I'm not AiNYC-ing here, just saying
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
ok, you're being reasonable so i'm not trying to be a dick, but think about your choice of words here. punk bands don't have deliberately created images?
― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Vaccuous Pop Irritant
Best band name that hasn't been used yet.
― The fabric of ILX is woven from threads of hate (KMS), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Once the spelling of vacuous has been corrected of course.
― The fabric of ILX is woven from threads of hate (KMS), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp well of course they do, it's just that for better or worse the punk 'scene' more explicitly prizes music nerdery... that was the only reason I was mildly surprised but tbh this is mostly based on my hazy perception of a pop singer whom I'm only passingly familiar with so I'm gonna duck out
― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
there are good bands in that list but it's still pretty unremarkable imo
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i must say the inclusion of Eric's Trip is pretty weird
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Chuck linked this upthread but the permalink does somethink weird where it disappears the article and leaves just the comments, so:
http://aceterrier.tumblr.com/page/2, & scroll to the bottom, to the second to last post (which is very long). It talks about DJ Mencap's comment about Ke$ha's created image (and other stuff), and it's really good.
― bamcquern, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv6fDt7UkVI
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Hi my name is Tim and I pay for my rent by wearing a giant TV on my head
― 丫 power (dyao), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link
so, to recap...
- terrible sloppy live performances- 'charming' interview persona- lyrics full of Jack Daniels name-dropping- from Nashville
... maybe Ke$ha's just an alcoholic?
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Makes me wonder if I was all that as a 23 year old alcoholic video store manager.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link
MIA, Beck, Rolling Stones, Devo, Flock of Seagulls, kraftwork, Daniel Johnson, talking Heads, David Bowie, Donovan, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Janet and Sir Michael Jackson, Avenue A, The Go! Team, Mika, Sonic Youth, Elton John, Willlie Nelson, Gwen Stefani, Madonna, Beastie Boys, Eagles of Death Metal, Black Keys, Black Eyed Peas, Daft Punk, Electric 6, Teenager, Tonite Only, Prince,Mirwais, Afrika Bambaata, Peaches, Rock&Roll, Richard X, Cornelius, ESG,6ths, ackron family, al green, andrew bird, anthrax, aphex twin, aphid ant constructions, arcade fire, archers of loaf, ataxia, badfinger, the bang up, beck, belle &; sebastian, ben lee, beulah, big star, black flag, the blow, boards of canada, bob dylan, brian eno, brian wilson, bright eyes, built to spill, butthole surfers, the cardigans, the carpenters, casiotone for the painfully alone, the clash, the clutters, daft punk, the damned, the dandy warhols, david bowie, the dead milkmen, devandra banhart, donovan, dresden dolls, the eels, elvis costello, eric's trip, the fall, the features, fischerspooner, frank black, frank sinatra, franz ferdinand, futurheads, gary glitter, generation x, ghostface killah, gogol bordello, gorillaz, guided by voices, her space holiday, how i became the bomb, human television, iggy pop, islands, jackson 5, jawbreaker, jenny lewis, jim o'rourke, joan jett, joe jack talcum, john frusciante, johnny thunders, the killers, kimya dawson, the kinks, kraftwerk, LCD soundsystem, le tigre, the lemonheads, leonard cohen, little ones, lou barlow, love, the lovely feathers, marshal crenshaw, matisyahu, matmos, miles davis, minor threat, modest mouse, mos def, mott the hoople, the mountain goats, moving units, my darling YOU!, neil diamond, neil young, neko case, neutral milk hotel, neva dinova, nico, of montreal, oh no! oh my!, optiganally yours, ornamental wigwam, otis redding, the pastels, peaches, pere ubu, peter bjorn and john, pink spiders, pixies, pj harvey, postal service, public enemy, pulp, queen, r.e.m., r.l. burnside, radiohead, the raincoats, rancid, the rapture, the rascals, ratatat, the ravonettes, regina spektor, replacements, roky erickson, rolling stones, ryan adams, screeching weasel, the shins, the small faces, the RACIST smiths, smoking popes, sparklehorse, spinto band, squarepusher, stellastarr*, stiff little fingers, the stranglers, the streets, the streets, the strokes, surfjan stevens, the sundays, sun ra, t rex, ted leo and the pharmacists, television, tilly and the wall, they might be giants, tom jones, tracy + the plastics, troubled hubble, tv on the radio, U2, the unicorns, the vaselines, the velvet underground, the ventures, verde, violent femmes, the walkmen, wilco, wire, X, yeah yeah yeahs, yo la tengo, the zebras, the zombies
list drunkenly adjusted to account only for good music
what is "kraftwork"?
what is "ackron family"??
daft punk is on the list twice
david bowie is on the list twice
how in the fucking fuck is the fall on a list of influences for ke$ha?????
kraftwerk is on the list TWICE
who in the fuck are the "ravonettes"????
"the streets, the streets"
im drunk
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6bw5m6fZShI/SxcgIDMZ4WI/AAAAAAAACt4/VLQyIizXxV8/s400/ed+lover+come+on+son.jpg
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 11 September 2010 06:09 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahaha A++ @ drunken ilxor
― markers, Saturday, 11 September 2010 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link
ha dude
― friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Saturday, 11 September 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link
fuck shit up
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 07:04 (thirteen years ago) link
lol at
― dayo reckoning (The Reverend), Saturday, 11 September 2010 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean
― friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Saturday, 11 September 2010 08:06 (thirteen years ago) link
crossing out rancid is poor form dude, take a look in the mirror
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
crossing out bob dylan, leaving in mia/the yeah yeah yeahs/_____
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link
that badfinger cross out means war
― Drastic Times Require What? Drastic Measures! Who Said That? T (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Bracket polls for Ke$ha's influences, please. Including double entries.
― bendy, Saturday, 11 September 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link
That definitely does not need to be a poll
― van smack, Saturday, 11 September 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link
This young people trying to be tough thing is a major turn off...even lady gaga is doing it.
― i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Saturday, 11 September 2010 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean if you can't peep the joie de vivre of some spikey haired bros from the east bay who have nothing but a song in their hearts, well, i just don't know
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 September 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Doesn't look like there's much rhyme or reason to what I crossed out, in retrospect.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― markers, Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
\o_O/
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
crossing out rock & roll is such a lame challop
― harbl essences (crüt), Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
lol just noticed she spelled it SURFJAN STEVENS like he's a surfer or something
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link