Fields of POLL: The Best of Sting

I think I'm camper than old Quentin was

I only wish he hadn't died

Gentleness, sobriety are rare in this society

If you love these songs set them free.

Wait, wait! What key is it in!

If you guys want I could reproduce the liner notes to ...Nothing Like the Sun, in which he compiles anecdotes on the composition of each song.

On "Be Still My Beating Heart": "Why does tradition locate our emotion center at the heart and not somewhere in the brain? Why is the common image in popular music the broken heart? I don't know..."

Your cruel mockery has driven Sting to emote via the bass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCNp5rtreUU

2010 marks ten years since El Stingo taught us to love keening Third Worlders pimping cars.

totally want the liner notes! hope they are in iambic pentameter.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45182000/jpg/_45182049_bf5ceb9d-5cdd-4893-be05-785da4c84e64.jpg

i am a bard. mock me not.

Sting can put together some nice chord progressions and melody, but the guy took all of the balls out of the rhythm section during his solo career (maybe the first album excepted). Being a kid that loved the Police, it was weird being a fan that slowly became repulsed. I suppose people that dug the Faces and the Jeff Beck Group probably had a similar feeling with Rod Stewart (but at least the change was blatent and he was fun).

Ok Soto, now you're taking this love of the well-made 1980s studio pop-rock song waaay too far. Next poll: Best Sounding Espresso Machine.

Also, is this true?:

college students listened to El Stingo through '94 at least

I think there was some bleed over from the Adult Contemporary chart. Or Adult Album Alternative. Which is what he was from the solo git, no?

"They Dance Alone". His best ever solo moment.

Englishman In New York is pretty much the only solo Sting I like.

Ok Soto, now you're taking this love of the well-made 1980s studio pop-rock song waaay too far.

I don't love it -- I wanted to poll El Stingo.

I suppose people that dug the Faces and the Jeff Beck Group probably had a similar feeling with Rod Stewart (but at least the change was blatent and he was fun).

OTM

I guess "All This Time", though I remember being surprised by how much play it got on my local "alt rock" station at the time. But I shouldn't have been: they heavily promoted Peter Gabriel's Us at the time, and Sarah McLaughlin, both in a similar adult-y neighborhood I think.

Being a kid that loved the Police, it was weird being a fan that slowly became repulsed.

otm.

i was kinda glad when he did the three amigos thing with bryan adams and rod stewart, because i felt like i'd been contractually released from ever paying attention to him again.

^^^^^
truest thing ever spoken on ILX

oh c'mon -- they did it all for love.

i was kinda glad when he did the three amigos thing with bryan adams and rod stewart, because i felt like i'd been contractually released from ever paying attention to him again.

i'd ask what "thing" you're referring to, but i think i'm happier and more content not knowing about it.

happier, more productive,
comfortable,
not drinking too much,
* * * *
getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries ,
at ease,
* * * *
(no bad dreams)

somewhere post-Dream of the Blue Turtles (ie, high school) I realized what horrible music this guy makes and I just can't abide him. So much so that my wife has to listen to her Police box set when I'm not home.

Let's make it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall for one and all for loooooooooove

my wife has to listen to her Police box set when I'm not home

yeah, i have that box-set. i like a lot of the songs, but i can't bring myself to listen to it.

goin for "be still my beating heart"

Sue me, but I still like "Fortress Around Your Heart"

That the Police were better than solo Sting is a fact too obvious to restate but in this case it instructs us, reliably, to vote for the one song on here that sounds like a good Police single, "Fortress Around Your Heart."

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dr. seuss is a better lyricist than sting.

― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

There might not be a rock lyricist better than Dr. Seuss. For sure at most 5.

That the Police were better than solo Sting is a fact too obvious to restate but in this case it instructs us, reliably, to vote for the one song on here that sounds like a good Police single, "Fortress Around Your Heart."

i don't think FAYH sounds anything like the police, but i (reluctantly) admit it's a good song.

Fortress Around your Heart still would have been better with Andy Summers putting some of that creamy chorus guitar around it. He would have eaten that chord progression for breakfast.

agreed.

Ha! Is it the modern lot of wives, listening to the Police box set only when their husband is away? I qualify! It must be how he feels when he watches pornography when I'm not around, kind of dirty but also relieved.

sting is much more sorid than pornography.

sting is horrible.

Sting pornography would be the worst.

It probably would last a long time.

http://imgsrv.nightswithalicecooper.com/image/nwac/UserFiles/Image/sting.jpg

I would watch a Sting pornography if, in it, he had intercourse with younger guys who looked sort of like him, like Neil Patrick Harris and Christopher Masterson.

It probably would last a long time.

only if you include dinner and a movie in calculating the time.

lol. TS: Sting (professional bard) v. Sting (professional wrestler)

I'm abstaining, though I'd vote for "Desert Rose" (w/ Cheb Mami) if it was on here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyf4KDbnrP0

I still reckon his first three solo albums were indeed quite good. Even "Ten Summoner Tales" contained a couple of nice singles, but by then he was completely on his way into ZZZ-land.

Had to stop reading Daniel Levitin's The World in Six Songs after he went on at length about the genius of Russians and referred to "my friend Sting".

Really hate that Mr Kruschev/Mr Pinochet mister-thing that Sting does.

No Love Is The Seventh Wave, no credibility.

oh lord, "Russians" is the most embarrassing song in the world that isn't "They Dance Alone"

Love is a big fat river in flood

btw this is very very gross

You really should read the rest of those lyrics I linked. Feel the revulsion!

"love is stronger than justice" is pretty cool music-wise; all that shit about burritos, bandidos and "ethical stuff" needs to die, though

ok 'desert rose' sounds like something off some cirque du soleil soundtrack so that one is definitely still going to the dump.

“Fragile” and “Be Still My Beating Heart” are pretty great

Damn there’s a lot of trash on this CD

Always had a soft spot for ‘We’ll Be Together’...’Nothing Like The Sun’ sounds awfully quaint now in a good way

It sounds like he wrote the damn thing in less time than it plays, but "Fields of Gold" is a gorgeous song. "If I Ever Lose My Faith" is also one of those songs that has stuck with me

I love Nothing Like the Sun. Peak adult contemporary Sting, with some really interesting musical and stylistic choices. In some ways like. So if Peter Gabriel weren't weird.

I think ...Nothing Like The Sun and Soul Cages are better than any Police album, but not many of his singles touch his best work with The Police - 'Fortress Around Your Heart' is just about the only one that sounds like a viable Police hit.

The flip is that a song like "Fragile" could never be a Police song, and essentially codifies solo Sting.

I would watch a Sting pornography if, in it, he had intercourse with younger guys who looked sort of like him, like Neil Patrick Harris and Christopher Masterson.

Doogie Does Stingus

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45182000/jpg/_45182049_bf5ceb9d-5cdd-4893-be05-785da4c84e64.jpg

i am a bard. mock me not.

― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:14 PM (thirteen years ago)

LMAO

I was surprised to find out that Ten Summoner's Tales was Down Beat's album of the year - don't know if that was typical of them back then, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt and gave it a good listen as I only knew the two hit singles. As jazz or pop, it couldn't have been a more ludicrous pick. The only unfamiliar tracks that had some appeal were "Seven Days" (I can see this being a fun song for a jazz singer to cover - rhythmically it's pretty engaging) and "Shape of My Heart" (appropriately shapely acoustic guitar part - that may have been his guitarist/co-writer's doing). The rest was like getting through a visit to the dentist.

My dentist plays Bad Bunny and Sheryl Crow, as I learned last week, so we may have to retire that trope.

"Shape of My Heart" has been a staple of hip-hop producers looking for a pretty sample.

LOL - mine actually plays a lot of '50s and '60s jazz (big Miles Davis fan). Whenever I go, he does a thorough job of cleaning, which means cleaning below every bit of my gumline and setting off every nerve - so if you can picture what that's like, sitting there and gripping the armrest, waiting for the process to run its course and be over, that's what I had in mind.

"Shape of My Heart" has been a staple of hip-hop producers looking for a pretty sample.

Still digging for these, but here's the opening track on Nas's second album (I should probably give that another try):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3CGu0ezd68

Also the Roots's "Break You Off" - sounds like they re-recorded it as a keyboard part, but I guess it could be buried in there as a guide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPcwUu_gcqo

A blog post from 2018 with more:

https://hypebeast.com/2018/6/sting-shape-of-my-heart-sad-rap-20-years-nas-the-message-juice-wrld-lucid-dreams

It Was Written? Most of it is marvelous.

"Seven Days" is indeed very intrguiging, I just hate the lyrics so much I can't listen to it. the chorus is fine at least.

I think I posted this in another thread but one really nice deep cut is "The Lazarus Heart" from Nothing like the Sun. I guess it's not a deep cut when it's the first track on the album, but still it's not a tune I've ever really heard anyone talk about. Sounds like something people would be crazy for...if it was done by Peter Gabriel

That whole album is great, peak adult contemporary. Yes, even the song Soto hates.

"Seven Days" is indeed very intrguiging, I just hate the lyrics so much I can't listen to it. the chorus is fine at least.

Has Sting ever written great lyrics? I want to say no, even with the Police, and I love their singles (as well as a good portion of their catalog - Zenyatta Mondatta especially). I kind of wish he was paired with a gifted lyricist because whenever he does anything with the written word, whether it's lyrics or liner notes, it can be pretty awful. I probably pay far less attention to the words of his songs than the actual music for that reason. Jon Pareles argued that "If You Love Somebody Set Them Free" is a terrible song on the basis of its lyrics: "a postgrammatical, T-shirt sentiment and a denunciation of possessiveness that would be a lot more convincing issued by someone other than a millionaire." Maybe, but musically it's pretty engaging and would have sounded right at home with the Police.

I think he's written some great lines

to me the thing he's most guilty of is using a lot of dumb filler words and nonsense phrases which makes his lyrics come off like shitty childrens books. "so they danced for his pleasure/with a joy you could not measure". like what does that even mean? congrats on making the rhyme though

a denunciation of possessiveness that would be a lot more convincing issued by someone other than a millionaire

It’s about “possessiveness” in a relationship (not in a material sense), right? Not sure why a millionaire can’t express that sentiment…

xp LOL

One exception (at least for me): I know "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" got trashed in the Police thread, but lyrically it's kind of the perfect Police song for me. On some level, it's acknowledging his deficiencies as a lyricist and having a laugh on him.

Re. Ten Summoners Tales, I think the fact that it was a warm, unpretentious record (for Sting anyway) with two very big singles led a lot of people to overrate it at the time and overlook that a lot of the writing was pretty lightweight (tho I’d argue “It’s Probably Me” is a cut above a lot of the material here). Jazzers really loved the playing, particularly Vinnie Colaiuta’s. So the combo explains why Downbeat rated it so highly.

I hear ya, but you'd think there was a better consensus pick in the jazz world. Joshua Redman's debut came out the same year - maybe they didn't want to pile on the hype for someone who just got established as a big name star, but I think it would've held up as a much better mainstream pick.

(same month actually - just a few weeks later)